I live on Oahu and have been trying to research what memory foam beds are available. I have not been able to find any local manufacturers. It seems our options are limited to brand name beds. We seem to have narrowed it down to either the icomfort insight or a anatomic global bed re-branded as island dreams by slumber world www.slumberworldhawaii.com/FindYourPerfe...dBrands&sel_cat_id=5.
I have read the reviews on the icomfort line and am trying to find more information on the island dreams line.
The island dreams comes in a 9", 10" and 12". They had cut away samples at the store but the sales people were not sure about the different densities of the layers. These beds looked very similar to the Eco series line by anatomic global and matched the layer thicknesses i saw online. I would have though they were just re-branded Eco series except that they are listed for a couple hundred dollars less that what i looked up the Eco 1, 2 & 3 to be online. I can't see how they could be the same and have the re-branded bed in Hawaii be cheaper. I would just like to find some assurance that the island dreams is not made with inferior foam to the Eco series and also any thoughts on the quality of the Eco 2 vs 3 if they are comparable to the island dreams line.
The serial number listed on the tag of the upper 2 models were EMFV12Q prototype ECO 13T and EMFV10Q prototype ECO 10T and i saw online the anatomic global ECO series listed as EMFV12Q-13F if that tells anything.
The warranty was also shorter at 20 yrs with 10yrs prorated with 1.5" sag.
Any other suggestions are welcome.

thank you,

Hi k1r2ps,

There is one local manufacturer near you that is listed in post #2 here. At the moment they are only producing mattresses from recycled materials but that will soon be changing as they are introducing a new line from an LA manufacturer if you can wait a few weeks.

They could very well be a re-branded version of the Eco Series which may be the reason they are able to avoid the minimum pricing (their prices ranged from $30 to $230 lower). If they are ... then they would seem to have good value relative to the Eco Series ... but none of the online outlets for the Eco Series that I saw listed the densities of the foams they use which would be reason enough for me to avoid them unless I could find out.

I do like Anatomic Global because they are owned by Foamex/FXI which is a foam producer I like. Regardless of this though ... it's the density of the memory foam that is important. The prototype information on the tag could very well mean they are different but I would avoid both unless I knew the density of the foam because for me this is the most important part of knowing the value of a particular mattress compared to others. I would think that someone at Slumber world would know though and they seemed quite open with me when talked with them so maybe it's just a matter of finding the person there who knows.

In any case ... there are always good online options if the local outlets don't have what you want or can't supply you with the information you need.

Phoenix

I've been trying to find out more info about the island dreams mattress. One sales person said the memory foam layers were 5 & 4 lb and another said they were all 5 lb. An email from the sales manager said they "are in the 5 lb range". I am still trying to get actual numbers.
Abedderbuy had the Eco 3 specs as
- 2″ Low-Slow Response 5 lb. Density EcoMemoryFoam
- 2″ Mid-Fast Response 4lb. Density MemoryFoam
- 2″ High-Fast Response 4 lb. Density Enhanced Anatomic Support Memory Foam
- 5″ High-Fast Response BioFoam Core Support Layer
- 1″ High-Fast Response Base Layer

which i would believe to be the same as the island dreams. What is your oppinion on these specs?

I am 5'11" 200lbs 90% back/10% side sleeper and my gf is 5'11" 155 50% back/ 50% side. We feel confortable in the store on most of the medium firm mattresses.

Would the 4 lb in lower layers be ok because the wear and tear is taken up in the 5 lb layer. These beds were meduim firm and did not feel like there were sinking in, They felt comparable to the iconfort insight which we also liked.

My gf's favorite was the Tempur Cloud Luxe for the pillow top feel with out feeling overly soft and sinking in.

The island dreams has a faster response top foam vs the Tempur's slow response which she liked.

I emailed sleepez and sleepwarehouse for shipping quotes to hawaii but am still waiting for responses.

much thanks,

Hi k1r2ps,

The specs you listed are the same that are listed by the sites that list the information that is provided to them by Anatomic global.

I called one of the outlets that carry them www.eco-mattress-store.com/ to get more details. My concerns were that this seems like a lot of memory foam in a mattress (6" could lead to sinking in a lot over the course of hours) and that I suspected that the lower 2" layer may not be memory foam (hopefully). He was quite knowledgeable about memory foam and materials in general and agreed that it seemed to be too thick. He also told me that he believed that all the layers were 5 lb foam which would be a good thing. His comment about the eco 3 was that it seemed to be a "medium firm" but he also knew that if the memory foam layers in a mattress were too thick that alignment would be compromised over the course of the night so this layering didn't make complete sense to him either.

They list the top layer as being the slow response layer (which would be more conforming) but because this layer is only 2", the faster response feel would be coming more from the layers underneath it.

In any case he said he would call his rep and find out as much as he could (or that they were willing to tell him) to confirm the layering and the density of the layers. I'll post here with more comments as soon as I hear from them.

Having lower density foams used deeper in a mattress and under other layers would improve the durability to some degree but this would also depend on the weight of the person on it and how much the foam was regularly compressed. Also with back sleeping ... a mattress with this much memory foam would be very risky IMO because memory foam tends to creep (relax it's internal structure) over the course of hours and you will gradually sink in more deeply with your heavier parts over the course of the night which means you could start off in good alignment but wake up with a sore back.

Phoenix

The local sales rep that got back to me said the memory foam layers were 4.8 lb.
Would it be a safer bet to go with the 10" model that has
- 1″ Low-Slow Response EcoMemoryFoam
- 2″ Mid-Fast Response Enhanced Anatomic Support Memory Foam
- 2″ Low-Slow Response EcoMemoryFoam
- 4″ High-Fast Response BioFoam Core Support Layer
- 1″ High-Fast Response Base Layer

and possibly add a thin topper later?

How should this configuration act/feel different when compared to the layering of the 12" model?

thanks

Hi k1r2ps,

I called the eco mattress store again because they didn't get back to me so hopefully I will have my questions answered and they will confirm the information you received.

What I would want to confirm is both the density of the foam and also to confirm that the top 3 layers are all memory foam which would be a lot of memory foam in a mattress. I personally would begin to ask questions and pay more serious attention to alignment with memory foam layers that were more than about 4". Of course your own testing would be a more accurate indication of this but my concern would revolve around the fact that over the course of the night your heavier parts may sink deeper into thicker memory foam layers. Once the memory foam goes hrough the initial softening period ... I would doubt that a topper would be necessary or even desirable because there would already be more than enough soft memory foam in the top layers of the mattress. If anything you may want a wool mattress pad to help reduce the softening of the memory foam over time.

The differences in the layering between the 10" and 12" model are the 1" thinner layer of "low slow" memory foam in the top layer of the 10" and replacing the "mid fast" in the third layer of the 12" model with "low slow" in the 10" model and the 1" difference in the lower support layer. While it's impossible to know for sure without more detailed information about the memory foams used and because different people may react to the same mattress layering very differently ... my guess is that the 10" would feel initially a little firmer and more responsive but would gradually soften as the temperature reached the lower slower layer. Your own testing with more complex multiple layers like this though would be much more accurate than my speculation with such limited information.

I would agree though that the 10" version with "only" 5" of memory foam would likely be "safer" if the layering they have listed is correct.

Phoenix