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Ultimate Dreams Latex versus Oklahoma Mattress Inner Spring Mattress with latex topper 23 Jan 2013 13:25 #1

Hi Phoenix,

I would like to thank you for your wonderful informational site. It has saved me a tremendous amount of frustration in my search for a new mattress. I live in Oklahoma City and from recommendations on this site I visited Oklahoma Mattress on Monday. I have decided latex is the mattress for me. A 10" latex from Oklahoma mattress is a little out of my price range, so my question for you is if choosing between an inner spring mattress with a latex topper from Oklahoma Mattress or an Ultimate Dreams latex with HR foam, which would be the best choice for me? I am looking for the mattress that will last me the longest but still give me the latex feel? The inner spring mattress with latex topper from Oklahoma Mattress was not quite as soft as I would like, but was very comfortable. I am 5'7" and weigh 135 pounds. I'm a single mom so I need to keep the cost down as much as possible. I've had back surgery at L5-S1 and have degenerative disc disease (four other discs degenerating). Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Phoenix.

Cari

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Ultimate Dreams Latex versus Oklahoma Mattress Inner Spring Mattress with latex topper 23 Jan 2013 16:33 #2

Hi dreamthedayaway,

A 10" latex from Oklahoma mattress is a little out of my price range, so my question for you is if choosing between an inner spring mattress with a latex topper from Oklahoma Mattress or an Ultimate Dreams latex with HR foam, which would be the best choice for me?


This is one of those questions where your choice would be based on personal preferences not "better / worse" and only each person can decide for themselves. The "weak link" of a mattress is generally in the upper layers of the mattress not in the deeper support layers (assuming both are good quality) so the durability or the support cores would not be a major part of my decision if all of the other durability factors are equal (such as the type and thickness of materials in the comfort layers and the other factors that are part of how durable a mattress will be for any particular person that are discussed in post #2 here ).

Some of the things I would take into consideration though include ...

A local choice that you have tested in person is always less risky than an online purchase especially if it is not returnable and in an apples to apples comparison where the local mattress is equivalent in design and value to the online mattress I would tend towards the local.

You may have options with a local purchase such as making an adjustment to the mattress after you have purchased it that you wouldn't have with an online purchase that isn't returnable.

I know a lot of people who are very knowledgeable in the industry who could sleep on any mattress design that they choose. If you interviewed these people you would find that some of them preferred all latex, some of them preferred a latex/innerspring hybrid, some of them preferred a memory foam mattress, some preferred an innerspring with layers of natural fibers, and there may be other preferences as well but I don't think you would find any of them (or at least very few) who chose a latex/polyfoam hybrid as their "ideal" mattress. In other words this would be a budget choice but probably not a performance choice for the large majority of people.

An innerspring support core in most cases would likely be a little more costly than a polyfoam support core so this would probably be reflected in the price of the mattress.

The two main functions of a mattress are pressure relief and support/alignment and I personally place a high value on personally testing for both which is why I place a value premium (usually about 20% or so depending on someone's "risk tolerance") in an apples to apples comparison (and this isn't quite apples to apples because of the different support cores) between a local purchase and an online purchase to decide on "equivalent" value.

Having said all that ... both of these are among the best quality/value manufacturers in the country and each may have their own unique pros and cons that are either more important or less important to you. This is all part of what I call each persons "value equation (see post #46 here ) which are all the objective, subjective, and intangible things that are an important part of a mattress purchase for each person and may be different for each one.

So I would compare the two on an apples to apples basis as closely as you can (taking into account the similarities or differences in materials in each mattress and all the other factors that are part of 'value") and then decide on which one has the better value based on the things that are most important to you including the importance of testing a mattress before you buy it. You are choosing between "good and good" and in terms of quality and value (as opposed to pressure relief and support/alignment terms and the suitability of a mattress for your needs and preferences) it would be difficult to make a mistake.

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Ultimate Dreams Latex versus Oklahoma Mattress Inner Spring Mattress with latex topper 23 Jan 2013 17:44 #3

Phoenix,


Thank you so much for your fast, informative reply.

I have to decide at this point if it's worth the risk of not being able to try before I buy. I'm close to making a decision, but not quite there yet. I thankfully do have the wiggle room in my budget of adding a 3 inch latex topper to the Ultimate Dream latex if it ends up not being the comfort level that I expect.

What is your opinion of the 2.35 pound high density HR base foam used in the Ultimate Dream latex in terms of longevity? Will it last as long as the innerspring made by Oklahoma Mattress?

I may need to take a break from mattresses for a few days. I think I'm confusing myself. :) Thank you again Phoenix!

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Ultimate Dreams Latex versus Oklahoma Mattress Inner Spring Mattress with latex topper 23 Jan 2013 21:37 #4

Hi dreamthedayaway,

What is your opinion of the 2.35 pound high density HR base foam used in the Ultimate Dream latex in terms of longevity? Will it last as long as the innerspring made by Oklahoma Mattress?


2.35 base foam is a high quality material that is very durable (technically it is HD foam not HR foam but is high quality nonetheless).

Both the innerspring and the polyfoam would not be the weak line in either of these mattresses because they are the support layers and the weak link is usually in the upper comfort layers of a mattress. this would be particularly true with your lower weight.

The biggest difference between the innerspring and the polyfoam would be the difference in feel and performance not a difference in durability between either. From a durability point of view I would look more at any differences in the upper layers of the mattresses.

Phoenix
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Ultimate Dreams Latex versus Oklahoma Mattress Inner Spring Mattress with latex topper 02 Feb 2013 01:06 #5

Hi Phoenix,

After returning to Oklahoma Mattress to try mattresses again, and many, many hours of research I finally settled on the Ultimate Dreams latex mattress from Dreamfoam. I ordered on Monday afternoon and received it today!

I went a different route than most. My budget was $1000, and I wanted a higher profile bed since I was coming out of a 16" plush pillowtop. I was fearful how I would adjust to a 10" mattress.. Cosmetically the change would have been hard for me. I ordered the Ultimate Dreams in a 3.5 (32 ILD) and a 3 inch latex topper in 19 ILD after many days of reading almost every post on this site trying to decide on just the right comfort level for me. I've ended up with 5.5" of polyfoam below 6" of latex and it feels like heaven! Pretty nice looking also at 13" total height which I love!

I can't wait to sleep on it tonight and I'll update in a week or so. I didn't receive my free shredded latex pillow, which is no big deal and I'm sure an oversight. I've emailed them and I'm sure they'll send it out.

I just wanted to thank you for your excellent site, and all of the knowledge you share. I'm looking forward to many years of wonderful sleep on my new mattress.

Thanks,

Cari

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Ultimate Dreams Latex versus Oklahoma Mattress Inner Spring Mattress with latex topper 02 Feb 2013 03:15 #6

Hi dreamthedayaway,

It seems to me that you've done some great (and lengthy) research and made a great choice!

I also have no doubt that they will correct the pillow oversight.

I'm looking forward to hearing your feedback once you've had the chance to sleep on it for a while.

Most of all though ... congratulations on your new mattress :)

Phoenix
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Ultimate Dreams Latex versus Oklahoma Mattress Inner Spring Mattress with latex topper 02 Feb 2013 04:38 #7

Hi! I have purchased the same mattess but will use the weekend to decide which level firmness to get. I will be getting 1-2in soft topper later and I will be choosing a slightly firmer one (the matttess) than I might otherwise in consideration of that. My question is- why such a really firm mattress then such a soft topper, and not, say - a 2" topper on a #5 mattress? (I may be reading all weekend heh)

Is there any particular place here on this site or web where you found the information that best helped you decide on the firmness/topper config and if so, could you please share links with me? Did did you buy your topper from the same co as the mattress?

congrats on your mattess and a really nice topper sounds like. My budget is less but- I'll get there, it'll just take me longer :)
tx

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Ultimate Dreams Latex versus Oklahoma Mattress Inner Spring Mattress with latex topper 02 Feb 2013 13:45 #8

Hi Princess,

I chose the 3 inch topper because it is recommended for side sleepers. Phoenix can make a recommendation for you, or at least point you in the direction of the right information so you can make an informed decision on your needs and wants. If it helps you in any way I am 5'8" and 135 pounds, suffer from chronic degenerative back disease, and sleep on my side.

I did have the advantage of trying out latex mattresses here in my city. I tried an 8" all latex mattress that I really liked that was 2" extra firm, 4" firm, 4" soft that I really liked, so I tried to mimic it the best I could because all latex was out of my budget range.

I also read every single review of the mattress on Amazon trying to get a feel of the firmness levels. Choosing the firmness level was the toughest part of my decision. The 3.5 level is not as firm as I expected. I will say when I tried it out without the topper I definitely knew it would not be acceptable for me to sleep on without the soft topper. Of course this is just my opinion, and yours may deviate widely from mine :)

I recommend you call Chuck and discuss your needs and wants, what he recommends for you and then reinforce your decision with real life experiences in reviews and discussions here.

I think you will be very, very impressed with the mattress Princess. Good luck in choosing what will work best for you!

Edited to add - yes I got my topper from Dreamfoam also. On Amazon they only have the option of the topper I purchased, but I believe if you call them they can do just about any topper you desire. I would call them and get a quote and then shop around for the best price.

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Ultimate Dreams Latex versus Oklahoma Mattress Inner Spring Mattress with latex topper 02 Feb 2013 16:24 #9

wow thanks for this forum.
i've been doing research to purchase ultimate dreams latex mattress as well.
all the discussions and information are very helpful!
i can't wait till i make an order from amazon and receive my mattress!

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Ultimate Dreams Latex versus Oklahoma Mattress Inner Spring Mattress with latex topper 02 Feb 2013 23:34 #10

HI again. Yes I'll be talking to Chuck about choosing the mattress level soon as I just got email from him awhile ago. After I get and break in tthe matttress some - I'll figure out what to do for a topper. Offhand I am thinking of part latex and part memory foam that I can switch around as sort of a summer/winter option. I have slept on memory foam mattresses before and found a couple things I disliked and one of those things was the the heat.

I too am a side sleeper- or was until pain and numbnes in a bad hip forced me to stay on my back more of the time. I did see a topper that was in a 2 compartmented cover (2 sets of ziparounds) for 2 different topper layers which looked very interesting. Neither layers were latex. I forgot the brand but something like that may be an option I or others might like. I have not seen the 2 zippered cover alone anyplace else online yet and the brand name was not familiar to me.

Okay, I will get back to my reading.

Have good and resful sleep. :D

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