I'm curious if anyone here has the octaspring mattress. I've seen the infomercials and have researched it online. It looks pretty good but there are not many reviews available because it is so new. I would appreciate any feedback you have.
Dormeo is owned by
which is a multi channel marketing company based in Central and Eastern Europe.
I think the
is an intriguing design with some real possibilities and similar to two other mattresses that use a similar concept of "foam springs" that can be custom zoned or changed. There are more comments about the Dormeo Octaspring in
post #2 here
and you can see my generic comments about the Reverie which would mostly apply to the Octaspring as well in
post #2 here
Conversation with a few retailers that carry them have indicated that they are also "somewhat" open and transparent about the density of the foam they use in the Octaspring support layers and that it is between 2.0 and 3.5 lb.
They have also attracted some very experienced people to their company executive.
Overall I think they would be well worth testing and investigating further out of interest's sake alone because they are an unusual design but I would also make some very careful value comparisons between other mattresses. I have no experience with them personally but am looking forward to the chance to test them in person and to confirm if they really are as transparent about their materials as a few conversations have indicated.
Thank you for your response! I have two updates for you:
Last year I e-mailed you about my S&F Blisswood Plush mattress (uncomfortable, causing lower back and hip pain). I took your advice and performed mattress surgery. AUGH...it was scary cutting into an expensive mattress. It took a while to remove the stitching from the top but after that it was easy to take apart. I was surprised to see only 2 - 1" layers of very cheap polyfoam inside the mattress. No wonder I was in pain! I replaced the polyfoam layers with a 3" latex topper, then put the softer foam on top. That was my first arrangement.....I've tried about 20 different combinations since then and none of them have made my bed any more comfortable. UGH!
Now I am in search of a new mattress (unless you have any more suggestions for my S&F). I have narrowed it down to the Dormeo octaspring and the Ultimate Dream Latex (Brooklyn Bedding) at Amazon.
I tested the Dormeo mattress at City Furniture this afternoon. It's beautifullly made and quite comfortable. I tried the three models they had in the showroom. The 9500 is the most plush and was too soft for me. The 8000 and 6500 feel similar but the 8000 has three layers while the other has only 2. I laid on the 6500 (plush/firm) for almost an hour and really thought that was the mattress for me but when I got up and started walking around I had pain in my hips and lower back. UGH....do I need time to adjust to the mattress? The saleperson (very pleasant, but aggressive) kept insisting that it was my back and that it would feel better once I slept on it for a while (I know...they'll say anything).
After reading through your website I noticed that many people recommend the Ultimate Dreams Mattress. It's reasoably priced and has great reviews. It doesn't come with a box spring...can I put it on top of my S&F box spring? What do I do with my other mattress? I would sell it or donate it but since I've preformed surgery I can't do either.
Please HELP...I'm not sure what to do here. I don't want to make another expensive mistake. I'm 5'7, 140 lbs and I sleep on my back/side. I had a hip injury a few years ago and have occasional lower back pain. I don't think there is anything wrong with my back (maybe alignment issues from going back and forth between my couch and the horrid S&F). Is there another mattress you would recommend?
Thank you so much for your advice and this great website. I wish I had found it sooner.
You have a lot of fairly broad questions here so perhaps the best way to deal with them is to go one step at a time ... starting with your current mattress. If it doesn't seem possible or worth the trouble to fix it then how to find a new mattress is outlined in the information, steps, and guidelines in
post #1 here
Just a quick reply regarding the Dormeo first though. I would only pursue this if you are able to find out the details and density of all the layers. Without this you really have no way to know or assess the quality, value, or durability of the materials inside it and it's a more "complex" choice that's more difficult to compare to other options you may have. Some of the Brooklyn Bedding / Dreamfoam mattresses have some good options for re-arranging or exchanging layers and some have no exchange options at all so there are many options in this lineup depending on your needs and preferences and on your degree of confidence that your first choice will be your best one. It may be possible to use your latex topper instead of one of the layers that come with the mattress which would give you a way to make use of this layer if necessary (I don't know if they would do this but it would be worth asking).
But lets start with the mattress you have and see if there is a way to make it work for you.
Can you remind me of the ILD of the 3" latex layer you have?
Of the two 1" layers of polyfoam that you took out of the mattress ... is one clearly firmer than the other?
There should also be another 2" of soft polyfoam and some fiber in the quilting/cover of the mattress. Have you been using this as well?
Can you tell me what the best one or two layerings were so far and the specific symptoms you were having (type and location) when you were using it and which of your sleeping positions it seemed to affect the most. This would be a good place to start.
One of the two 1" layers of polyfoam is clearly firmer than the other.
I have been using the cover of the mattress on the top.
So far the best configurations have been:
3" latex + 1" latex (also 24 ILD) + the cover
1" firm polyfoam (from Joanne's) on the bottom + 3" latex + the cover (this is definitely more firm)
The position that affects me the most is on my back. I get horrible pressure points on my sacrum...no where else. After sleeping on it for a few nights I get pain and swelling in my sacrum that radiates into my tailbone/hips....UGH It's bizarre because that's the only pressure point....everything else is fine.
Thanks again! I really appreciate your advice.
I would be thrilled if I could make this bed work for me.
I am guessing that you need to isolate the compressed feel of the springs under your sacrum.
Hopefully there is and I would put the 1" of firm polyfoam over the insulator and then the latex over that. I would remove the cover and sleep directly on the latex with your mattress protector and sheets over this for now. If it seems a little too firm then I would add your 1" of latex on top of the 3" and then the protector and the sheets.
This would be the starting point I would use and I would use your experience with this to decide what the next step may be.
I tried the combination you recommended: firm polyfoam + 3" latex + 1" latex. Unfortunately that didn't work so I added 1" of softer foam that I had removed from inside the mattress. That didn't work either. I was able to sleep but woke up with excrutiating pain in my sacrum/tailbone, which unfortunately persists all day long and only gets worse each day.
I slept on the mattress for one week....tonight I'll sleep on my couch.
Do you have any other suggestions? I appreciate any advice you can give me.
I think your situation is somewhat of a mystery and I have no idea why you are being affected by pressure on your back (similar to the type of pressure people would feel when sleeping on the floor) and yet you don't seem to be affected by the same pressure issues sleeping on your side on the same configuration.
The "logical" suggestion would be to add an inch or two of softer materials on top to add further cushioning but I just don't know if this will help in your case because I'm not comfortable that we have identified the cause or reasons behind your sacrum/tailbone symptoms. It may even be worth sleeping with just the layers of foam on the floor (firmest polyfoam on the bottom, then the latex and then the softest polyfoam on top) on your back to see if you have similar symptoms. This would at least provide a clue if removing the innerspring removed the symptoms.
A medical appointment to rule out any issues that could be connected to your experience that would affect this sleeping position alone may also be worth considering (such as a herniated disc etc) just to be on the safe side.
Thanks for the feedback on the Dormeo. There aren't lot of people who have tried it and provided feedback so I glad to hear about your experience. It's somewhat similar in concept to the
Reverie Dream mattresses
(which appears to have been discontinued because it's no longer on their site) in that they all use cylinders of various materials to customize the support layers which I think is an interesting and good concept.
Thanks again for taking the time to share your thoughts.
I am new to your great site and searched for "Octaspring" to get here. I am in the market for a Twin XL for myself, and I can spend up to $5000. (not that I want to! lol) I have a back issue called spondylolisthesis that causes nerve compression in my left leg. My crap Stearns and Foster Ultra Plush Fiona has made it 100x worse. I do want an adjustable base, as the Zero Gravity position really helps me out, so this limits my choices. I don't sleep hot, but I am also leery about memory foam's other big issues.
Anyhow, I do have a Sleep America right by my house, so I have had the opportunity today to sit on the 5500, 6500, and 8500. (Well, I only sat on the last two) The 8500 even had an adjustable base on it.
My initial feedback is that the 8500 did really feel nice. You have to give it time to settle in. You don't sink into it like memory foam at all. You just settle. I laid in one for 40 minutes on my back with the legs up and the massager on. I did flatten it and turn off the massager too for the times I side sleep. On the recommendation of this site, i went to Sleep EZ yesterday to "try on" latex mattresses, and today I can say I like the Octaspring better. (Sleep EZ was very nice, and the mattresses were nice too. I just preferred this one)
The Sleep America had this marketing demo box of the Ocaspring coils too that Dormeo sent them. You can touch the firm, mid firm, soft, etc coils. Each level of firmness had a different color. The darker the coil, the heavier the firmness - dark charcoal grey being the most firm, and cream being the most soft. So, this is really where my questions come into play.
If you go to the United States websites, it shows cross-sections of the different models. As far as I can tell, the top 3 US models all have three layers,but with different configurations of coils. NOW...when I go to the United Kingdom site, the models are all different with totally different cross sections.
At this point, I am not sure what to think or believe. I would love to sit on the 9500, but I was told by the Dormeo phone center that that model is online only.
Any feedback on this topic or has anyone else have any more input on this brand?
I do want an adjustable base, as the Zero Gravity position really helps me out, so this limits my choices. I don't sleep hot, but I am also leery about memory foam's other big issues.
An adjustable bed can acertainly help as you know but it doesn't limit your options too much because almost any foam mattress (memory foam, latex foam, and polyfoam) or a pocket coil will be fine on an adjustable bed. The only real limitations are an innerspring with a border wire that shouldn't be bent.
The best place to start your research is
post #1 here
which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines you will need to make the best possible choices. You will also see a recurring theme that a mattress is only as good as its construction and the quality of the materials inside it so I would never buy a mattress where you don't know all the details and quality of every layer.
I am in the market for a Twin XL for myself, and I can spend up to $5000. (not that I want to! lol)
This is a very high budget range for a twin XL with an adjustable bed and is probably much higher than you will need even for a premium mattress. Even if I was spending $2700 or more for a twin XL (the rough cost of the Dormeo 8500) I would make sure that it was clearly superior to any other mattress I had tested in significantly lower price ranges that was available to me in terms of PPP and the quality of the materials.
Well, I have seen some interesting things in the last few days on this company's website
They offer three mattress with three layers - 9500, 8500, 8000.
They don't really verbally tell you what differentiates these three mattresses. The cross section image shows that the 9500 has a soft base layer, the 8500 has firm, and the 8000 has medium. I only know this because my Sleep America actually has a box of the coils on display.
But what is really odd is that the language on the page for the 8000 and the 8500 says that the bottom layer for both is medium.
I have written them and sent screen captures to question them on this. Its fishy. I also called to get a quote on the 8500, and got the price for the 8000. Also fishy. BTW - No one in their customer service department can tell you the actual differences between the three mattresses.
Octaspring website here
also has more details about the differences between the different models. The differences are primarily in the type and number of the Octaspring layers (some are polyfoam and some are memory foam).
If you find out more specific details then it would be great to post them here.