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Please help a very broken person find the right mattress 26 Apr 2013 11:55 #1

Hi-
I've been reading this forum during my search for a mattress and appreciate everyone's insight very much. I'm a little different than the average mattress shopper- I have very serious injuries- they are muscular in nature and entrap nerves (nothing spinal). The "right" Beds are hard to generalize for me but most likely include

- a very soft pillow top *very soft*
- Very good supportive coils - but not heavy guage or those with strong resistence (I've rejected OMF orthopedic line with 12.5 gauge coils)
- No memory foam- or very little but many layers down
- Generally no latex on top- it provides too much resistence back on my muscles

I don't frankly care if the mattress is a good value or if it will last forever right now. I'd be happy if it lasted 1-2 years and would let me recover, but I've been through 3 mattresses and am now on a horrifying Sleep Number trial that's killing me (too hard above 30 PSI for my body and at 30 PSI my body hammocks/sinks in so far it's also detrimental).

Any thoughts? I'm in Minneapolis/St Paul and have been to look at and/or purchased from:

OMF
Restwell Mattress factory
Mattress Firm (Simmons, Sealy, S&F)
A Savvy Rest dealer
Natural Mattress Co
Platinum Dreams line at PM Bedroom Gallery
Room & Board
Sleep Number

A return policy is also pretty necessary since I never know if something is good in the store. Thank you!!!

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Please help a very broken person find the right mattress 26 Apr 2013 13:18 #2

Hi jhcoleman,

Before you exclude latex completely it may be worth trying some of the Pure latex Bliss models with their topper which is the softest latex you will find to see if you do well on these. You will find retailers in your area listed on the Pure Latex Bliss site here .

It seems that you have also been to many of the manufacturers or retailers on the Minneapolis list in post #2 here but there are a few others listed that may be worth considering.

I don't think it would be possible for anyone to suggest a specific mattress in your circumstances and you will likely be dependent on your own personal testing to see how well a mattress fits your criteria but I would also consider a phone call and if that goes well a visit to Rochester to visit Rest Assured Mattress who may be able to customize a solution that would be suitable for you. They are good people and have been building mattresses for a long time.

Phoenix
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Please help a very broken person find the right mattress 26 Apr 2013 13:43 #3

Thank you very much for your suggestion! I am on my way to Gabbert's to try out the PLB mattresses- they have 3 available plus the toppers to try. I would never have thought of that! :)

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Please help a very broken person find the right mattress 28 Apr 2013 18:02 #4

I'm going back tomorrow to look at the PLB mattresses again – my body was too broken on Friday night after all the mattress shopping to truly test them but I'm not 100% sure that that's what I'm looking for. This weekend I had a Stearns and Foster luxe estate (marlyn) pillow top delivered but unfortunately it was way too plush – my butt sunk into much and it pulled on my body and all the wrong ways- Giving me back muscle problems which I didn't have before and I definitely don't want to add .

Do you have any thoughts On the luxury mattress lines? I'm debating a trip down to Chicago to try out the Duxiana, Hastens and Carpe Diem beds. While I would very much prefer not to spend this much money on a bed, at this point I'm somewhat at a loss for a supportive foundation that keeps me in proper spinal alignment but with a comfort layer that also provides very nice cushioning on the top for my muscular issues.

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Please help a very broken person find the right mattress 28 Apr 2013 18:23 #5

Oops- and the vi spring.

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Please help a very broken person find the right mattress 28 Apr 2013 19:45 #6

Hi jhcoleman18,

There will be some who disagree with me but my own thoughts are that it's unlikely that one of the super premium brands would provide any better pressure relief or alignment than every other mattress in significantly lower budget ranges and these are the two main functions of every mattress. They would also not be any more durable than other mattresses that used high quality and durable materials. Of course there are people whose "value equation" is different from most other people and for those who can comfortably afford it, how they feel about the mattress they purchase may be just as important as how they feel on the mattress. There may also be some who for some reason believe that no other mattress will do.

Based on conversations I have had with many others who have a great deal of experience with these brands (including manufacturing) ... if I was buying a super premium brand then VI Springs would probably be the direction I would lean.

You can see more of my thoughts about the Super Premium brands in post #2 here and in post #2 here .

They are beautiful mattresses and as much a work of art as anything else but IMO they would be difficult to justify in the context of why most people buy a mattress or what I call PPP (Pressure relief, Posture and alignment, and Personal preferences). Among all the many mattresses that are available at much more reasonable prices you will find almost any combination of support/alignment and comfort/pressure relief and preferences that almost anyone could wish for. If I won a lottery or I was in a different income bracket I would certainly consider buying one ... but not because I would sleep any better than any other mattress or because it would last me any longer ... but just for the experience of owning such a finely made and crafted "work of art".

Phoenix
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Please help a very broken person find the right mattress 29 Apr 2013 13:44 #7

Thank you for your thoughts! Wanted to let you know that as a last ditch effort before leaving town I took your advice and chatted with Rest Assured Mattress and will be heading down there tomorrow. Sounds like a great company!

I'm interested by what he says regarding the LP Body Print coils and the micro coil option for comfort, but can't find a lot about either on here. Can you tell me more about using an additional row/micro coils as part of the comfort/contouring portion of the bed?

Thanks for all of your help! I let the owner know that I'd heard about him on here :cheer:

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Please help a very broken person find the right mattress 29 Apr 2013 16:07 #8

Hi jhcoleman,

I think Chuck at Rest Assured is a great guy and he certainly knows his mattresses.

Microcoils are a softer and thinner version of pocket coils that are used in comfort layers instead of as support layers. You can read a bit about them in this article and a forum search on " microcoil " will bring up quite a few references to them and mattresses that use them as well.

Microcoils or springs have a different response curve (more linear) than foam (which has a more bananna shaped response curve) and they work well for those who prefer their feel and resilience or whose testing shows that they do better with this type of response vs foam. They will usually use some type of foam above them and how they perform in each specific design that uses them will depend on the other materials that are over and underneath the microcoils. They are certainly well worth considering as a comfort layer option.

A few examples of microcoils are the Leggett & Platt versions here and the Hickory springs / Spinks versions here (along with a video here ) and the European microcoils used by Berkeley Ergonomics here . Some comparison testing that Leggett & Platt has done is here .

Phoenix
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Please help a very broken person find the right mattress 30 Apr 2013 15:32 #9

Phoenix – I just wanted to follow-up and thank you for sending me to Chuck. He is a great guy who obviously takes a lot of pride and in his work and also puts a lot of thought into his mattress components. Unfortunately nothing there worked very well for me – too much latex and I was sinking in – or micro coils with not enough cushioning on top and my body freaked out at the resistance. Rock and hard place. I will be heading to Chicago this weekend to look at the luxury beds that I can't believe I'm actually looking at. The one I'm most interested in is the Carpe Diem-Let's see if it actually holds true to the weightless feeling! I will be sure to let you know when (optimism) I am actually able to purchase something that works.

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Please help a very broken person find the right mattress 30 Apr 2013 17:05 #10

Hi jhcoleman18,

That's unfortunate ... but at least you had a taste of a good mattress manufacturer and the information and service they can provide.

If you are going to Chicago anyway ... I would make a point of visiting Tim at My Green Mattress and Quality Sleep Shop (who are sister companies) who have a very wide range of mattresses they build (and can customize) as well.

Phoenix
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