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29 Jun 2013 11:00 #1 by mideastprincess

www.octaspring.ca

Does anyone have any experience with this type of mattress? Was at the mattress store yesterday and I found myself quite tempted. It is a significant investment however. But, my in store experience on it was incredible. It reminds me a lot of the tempurpedic mattress but it not supposed to have the warmth issues that tempurpedic can have and it was way more comfortable.

It appears that these were new to Canada in late 2012 (from Europe) so I am not finding many reviews online.

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29 Jun 2013 16:55 - 31 Jan 2015 15:35 #2 by Phoenix

Hi mideastprincess,

You can see a few comments about the Dormeo Octaspring in post #2 of this thread and a forum search on Octaspring and on Dormeo (you can just click the links) will bring up a more comments about them as well.

They are transparent about their materials and as an example the 9500 model is made up as follows ...

2" 3 lb memory foam
3" 5 lb memory foam ecocell
2" 2.5 - 3.5 lb polyfoam ecocell
2" 3.5 lb ecocell zoned
2" 2.5 lb ecocell

NOTE: post #33 here has the updated specs for the Octaspring line (excluding foam densities) and they also now have two new lines besides the Octaspring called the Dolce and the Serenite (which includes Talalay latex instead of memory foam for the top layer).

My biggest concern would be the top layer of memory foam in their mattresses which is lower quality (less than 4 lbs) but all the rest of the materials are good quality. 2" is a little over the thickness I would normally suggest avoiding for lower quality materials in the upper layers (around an inch or so) and once there is 2" or more of lower density materials this could start becoming a weak link in the mattress ... but it's not a lot over the guideline so this isn't as bad as a mattress that say uses 3" of lower quality memory foam which would have a bigger effect on the loss of comfort and support and the long term durability of the mattress.

From a "commodity value" point of view they are not particularly good value and there is more lower quality memory foam in the top layer than I would be comfortable with (see post #4 here ) but they are also a unique design and the pressure relief/comfort and the support/alignment of a mattress may also be important part of each person's personal value equation that for a few people may offset the higher prices or the possible weak link in terms of durability because of the 2" of 3 lb memory foam. ADDITIONAL NOTE: Their new line has apparently reduced the top memory foam layer to 1.5" which is better and is more in line with the guidelines here of "no more than about an inch or so" of lower quality/density materials in the comfort layers that I would normally suggest.

If for some reason this mattress was so much better than other choices you had in terms of feel and performance or PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) that nothing else would do or even come close, then in spite of its higher prices, and as long as you were OK with a little more lower quality memory foam in the top layer than may be ideal or desirable ... then it may be worth considering for those where a unique mattress that seemed to feel and perform so much better than anything else they tested was the most important part of their criteria. It's "value" in other words would be more in its uniqueness and whether it was so much better by your specific criteria that the higher price was justified and "value" by more typical definitions wasn't as important to you.

Phoenix


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Last Edit: 31 Jan 2015 15:35 by Phoenix.

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21 Aug 2013 19:54 #3 by mojowomyn

Wow! Where did you find those specifications for the foam densities? I couldn't find that information anywhere online.
Thanks!

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21 Aug 2013 21:04 - 21 Aug 2013 21:05 #4 by Phoenix

Hi mojowomyn,

I haven't seen it online either (except here). It came from talking to one of the more informed retailers who sells it.

Phoenix


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22 Aug 2013 16:57 #5 by mojowomyn

I contacted their customer service department and they were able to send me a PDF file called Mattress Comparison Chart. It has all the measurements and densities a person could want. The top three mattresses are very similar. The differences in the top three are how thick the foam is, and which densities they use - 9500 being soft, 8500 medium, 8000 medium firm. The foam in all three have the same quality and density.

They have been super helpful so far. I have talked to them on the phone and email several times now.

Now the hard part - do I really want to shell out $2900 for a Queen mattress? The Reverie sleep system is out of the question for me since I cannot sit on it anywhere.

I feel like I need another round or six of testing out some more mattresses. I do like the Octaspring, but for that money I don't want to be disappointed! Ill keep ya all up to date with the journey!

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22 Aug 2013 18:29 #6 by Phoenix

Hi mojowomyn,

Now the hard part - do I really want to shell out $2900 for a Queen mattress? The Reverie sleep system is out of the question for me since I cannot sit on it anywhere.


Of course that's always one of the challenges when it comes to each person's personal value equation but for me it would need to be significantly "better" in one way or another from other memory foam mattresses that used similar quality materials (but in a much different design) in lower budget ranges. There isn't a "price" you can attach for comfort or performance that clearly works better for you than something else but there can certainly be an extra cost for a mattress where the benefits of the design or the story attached to it don't translate into improved feel or performance that you can clearly distinguish and identify.

I feel like I need another round or six of testing out some more mattresses. I do like the Octaspring, but for that money I don't want to be disappointed! Ill keep ya all up to date with the journey!


I'm looking forward to your ongoing feedback along the way.

Phoenix


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05 Sep 2013 20:57 #7 by odrunr

I am new to this outstanding website. Thank you for this service.

I probably should start a new thread, but I came into this site leaning toward buying a King Octaspring 9500 and I that has not changed much, except I wish I lived closer than 2 hours to the city. I live in SE Kansas, so we are 2 hours from Wichita, Tulsa, KC, or Springfield. (We do have Edna Mattress Factory 20 miles away :) )

I am 42 healthy 6'1" 190# marathon runner. My wife is 41 5'8" 135 (except she is 6 months pregnant and obviously bigger now) She is having a terrible time sleeping with hip pain, as she must sleep on her side not her normal back. I am a stomach sleeper.

We have an 8 year old Simmons Beauty Rest ("the same mattress that they used at the Westin" :) Its time for a new mattress. I have used a Tempur pillow for 15 years, but have always been scared of memory foam because of the heat. Then one year ago I ran across the YuMe memory foam, which has an option which can heat/cool +- 10 degrees to room temperature. I have been following them since then, and noticed they are coming out with their next version (475, 575, 675) right now.

I was in the city, and talked to a guy I know at the Mattress Firm. They are the exclusive distributor of YuMe. So after reading this site I am probably not going that direction.

But Mattress Firm in Wichita aslo has Octaspring. Their Corporate stores do not carry it. This apparently is a franchise store.

My wife laid on every mattress there, and she liked it the best. Getting on here today and reading the limited info, it appears its pretty positive. Money for me is not an issue. I want my wife to be comfortable. But if there is something else we need to try, please let me know. Its just hard for us to get away with our other 3 kids activities (yes all 14 years old). We need to pull the trigger soon.

We also think we want to get a King with the adjustable base.

Any insight would be appreciated.

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05 Sep 2013 22:50 - 06 Sep 2013 16:42 #8 by Phoenix

Hi odrunr,

Just in case you haven't read it ... the first place I would start your research is post #1 here which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines you will need along with links to some of the more important forum posts that can help you make the best possible choices.

As you will see ... I would also suggest avoiding any of the chain stores such as Mattress Firm. At the very least I would make sure you can find out the specifics of all the layers in any mattress you are considering before making a completely blind purchase where the odds are high that you would either be purchasing a mattress with lower quality materials or a mattress that has poor value compared to many other similar options that are available to you. You can see some comments about the YuMe mattress in post #2 here . I believe the prices for the YuMe mattresses are rather outrageous.

I would also take some of the claims you are mentioning and the marketing information you are being told with extreme skepticism and a big grain of salt.

I would also consider buying a mattress for your "regular" needs (with her back sleeping) and then either adding a topper for the extra pressure relief your wife will need while she is pregnant because you will have the mattress for much longer than she is pregnant and it's not really possible to "fix" a mattress that is too soft without removing and replacing materials. You can remove the topper after she has the baby if she no longer needs the extra pressure relief. I would also consider using a body pillow or a pregnancy pillow while she is pregnant to improve both comfort and support during the more "awkward" staqes of pregnancy. Back sleepers generally need thinner or firmer comfort layers than side sleepers and stomach sleepers generally need thinner/firmer comfort layers yet to avoid the risk of sleeping wit the spine out of alignment. I would also avoid memory foam if you plan to have the baby sleep on your mattress because it is too movement restrictive and too soft for babies and young children IMO.

I would also not translate higher cost as meaning a more suitable mattress and I would make sure that you don't buy any mattress where the type or quality of the materials inside it is unknown regardless of the "story" attached to it. Again ... I would particularly avoid the YuMe mattress unless you are able to find out all the detailed specs and there is a compelling reason that for some reason justifies their prices for what are basically memory foam and polyfoam layers of unknown density. If they can provide the specs but don't know what they mean you are welcome to post them here and I'd be happy to make some further comments.

You can read a little more about various ways that can be used to cool down memory foam in post #6 here and more about the many factors that can affect the sleeping temperature of a mattress in post #2 here .

You can read more about adjustable bases and some online stores that are good for pricing references in the adjustable bed thread here .

I'm not sure exactly where you are but some of the options listed in post #4 here may also be within reasonable diving distance and worth calling and/or visiting.

Phoenix


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06 Sep 2013 09:25 #9 by odrunr

Phoenix: I belong to several message board and even moderate one myself. I have never seen someone as good and generous with information as yourself. Thank you!!!!

What about the Octaspring? Its seems that what I have read on here from you and others the returns are relatively favorable??

Thank you so much, the YuMe thing had me hook, line, and sinker. So glad I found this site.

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06 Sep 2013 17:00 - 06 Sep 2013 17:01 #10 by Phoenix

Hi odrunr,

Thanks again for the kind words :)

What about the Octaspring? Its seems that what I have read on here from you and others the returns are relatively favorable??


Some of my thoughts about the Octaspring are in post #2 earlier in this thread.

With the exception of the top 2" layer which is in a lower density range ... they use good quality materials and are transparent about what they use. From a materials point of view they are also not great value and IMO its "value" would be based more on its uniqueness than on the materials in the mattress. I would have a hard time justifying the premium price unless the benefits of the specific design was so much better than anything else you tested that you strongly believed that it was worth the premium price you would be paying.

I'm not quite sure what you mean here but if you are referring to Mattress Firm's return policy then they provide a full refund within 100 days less what they call "transportation" changes which is probably the original delivery charge and you would be responsible for any charges involved with returning the mattress. I would call this relatively favorable compared to other mattress purchases that don't have any refund policy at all or that have higher costs or fees involved for returns.

Phoenix


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Last Edit: 06 Sep 2013 17:01 by Phoenix.

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