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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 13 Sep 2013 21:10 #31

I have decided after hours on here and on the phone with several different manufacturers that I am going to purchase a KING Pure Latex Bliss "Worlds Best Bed" I am not going to buy an adjustable base now. Only weighing 190 and wife 135 going to go with the basic foundation.

Now my quest is to find the best online price with free shipping. Any suggestions?

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 13 Sep 2013 22:34 #32

Hi odrunr,

There are many PLB retailers that ship across the country and I don't have a list or them or the prices they charge (the internet prices are the MAP or minimum advertised prices so you would need to talk with them to find out their actual prices) but a google search should bring up many of them.

PLB used to allow dealers to ship right from the factory directly to a customer which means that if their actual selling price was lower than the MAP pricing they would end up being less but they no longer do this so a retailer needs to order them and reship them to their customer which can incur double shipping. Some PLB dealers that may be worth talking to about their prices and that may be able to ship PLB mattresses across the country include ...

www.themattressexpert.com/
www.floridamattresscenters.com/
www.eco-mattress-store.com/

Sometimes the best PLB prices may be available locally and you can search for the local retailers that are closest to you on the PLB retail store finder here .

NOTE: Pure Latex Bliss (PLB) is now called Pure Talalay Bliss (PTB) and you can see the updated specs of their mattresses in post #2 here .

Phoenix
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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 14 Sep 2013 22:09 #33

odrunr
mattressexpert has the best price that ive found. Mattress.net sells PLB but they will tell you they can duplicate the mattress. Be careful of companies that say that as I don't think it can be duplicated based on what Ive learned
Ive asked for a price they never got back to me.
The link below has a sale I'm not sure they sell beyond their county but its worth a try
www.cgmattress.com/mattress/pure-latexbliss/world-s-best-bed/
all the best )

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 14 Sep 2013 22:18 #34

Hi mike7,

Be careful of companies that say that as I don't think it can be duplicated based on what Ive learned


I would be careful passing this kind of advice on to others because while I understand that for some reason this is what you believe ... it's also not accurate as our previous conversation has already indicated.

It's true though that it may not be something that someone wants to do or would even be worthwhile for some people but it is certainly possible ...especially with Talalay latex.

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 17 Sep 2013 17:33 #35

Mike7,

Your frustrations are very understandable to me. I have been researching and trying to make a decision on a latex mattress for months now. The mattress business is the worst, right? I do understand how brick and mortar stores with showrooms do not want to divulge their specific ILD's, but they also can mislead customers about their latex information. I'm also trying to duplicate the feel of a mattress that I liked at a showroom but it is so difficult to interpret ILD's of various companies. I have placed an order with Foam Sweet Foam,(Labor Day Sale) but have it on hold until I figure out the firmness that I want. They are trying to help me decide, but it is crazy with all these ILD's for Talalay and Dunlop and blended Talalay and foreign and American latex manufactures, covers, protectors, etc... so many variables. I guess this forum has helped educate me, but it hasn't helped me decide on my layers! I dread getting my mattress, not liking the feel, and repacking and sending a layer back for an exchange. It's such a crap shoot. I realize that I'm trying to save money by purchasing online, but why aren't there any mid-range priced latex mattresses in brick and mortar stores, all high end. Just venting, sorry about you experiences here.

Diane

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 17 Sep 2013 17:53 #36

Diane,
The Foam Sweet Foam website looks good...Which mattress did you select?
Jeff

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 17 Sep 2013 18:04 #37

Hi Jeff,

The mattress I bought is a 9" queen 100% Talalay, 3 layers of 3". I think Scott from F.S.F. has been very helpful and accommodating.
Like I said, I'm still unsure of what layers to choose. Right now, I'm leaning towards 22ILD top, 28ILD middle, and 36ILD bottom.(SOFT< MED> FIRM) Scott says that each piece is labeled specifically as to what the ILD is in 5 or 6 different spots. He will try to find the layers I request or at least very close to it. (On sale this mattress was $1699)

Diane

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 17 Sep 2013 18:09 #38

Hi Diane37,

I guess this forum has helped educate me, but it hasn't helped me decide on my layers!


Post #2 here has more about how to decide on layers but in essence it comes down to your own personal experience based on either testing a mattress in person or on buying a mattress that uses the knowledge and experience of an online source and fits the "averages" for your body type and sleeping positions and has the ability to make adjustments if you are outside the "averages" of other people.

It takes many years of experience to be able to predict what someone else will "feel" on a mattress based on specs and even then there is no certainty ... only "best efforts" ... until someone has actually slept on it so you will always be dependent on either your own testing or on your experience sleeping on a mattress you've purchased online in which case the ability to make adjustments or exchange the layers if you haven't tested it in person would be an important part of your personal value equation and "risk assessment". There is no way to avoid this reality.

Trying to predict how a mattress "feels" based on specs alone is an exercise in frustration and will generally end up leading to "information overload" or "paralysis by analysis" with no meaningful frame of reference.

Latex is a more costly material than other types of foam and there is no getting around this but there are also many smaller manufacturers across the country that sell latex mattresses locally that are good quality and good value and if one of these is local to you then you can have the best of both worlds and test the specific latex designs they have available for PPP and have better value as well. For those that don't have better value latex mattresses available locally then more costly options such as the PLB or a choice that has more risk such an online retailer or manufacturer that still allows for fine tuning or layer exchanges after a purchase (and which will end up working well for the large majority of people) may be the "best" value option available for that person.

I know from your previous posts that you've had the chance to test Savvy Rest in Dunlop so you would have a good sense of what that type of mattress "feels" like. I scanned your past posts but I'm not sure where you are (unless I missed it) so if you let me know the city or zip where you are I'd be happy to let you know of any other sources of latex mattresses (possibly including Talalay) that may be within reasonable driving distance so you can have a better frame of reference for your choice.

Phoenix
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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 17 Sep 2013 19:30 #39

Diane thanks for the response. My local PLB dealer will match the mattressexpert price including no tax. I originally thought the Beautiful model was best until I went back and noticed my spine felt a little strange. They had a testing mattress with a computer that is able to check pressure points and determined that I needed the more firmer model the nutrition. That one has a softer layer in the middle and firmer on top. My point regarding this forum was that sometimes the responses contradict each other.
The PLB uses a 6" core and other sizes for the top 4" 3" and 2". It also has the active fusion gel layer for temperature relief. And it uses a thin stretch knit cover. This is blended talalay and the blend from my understanding is PLBs own with natural products. I think these all go into determining the feel of a mattress which is why I think it will be hard to duplicate exactly and why it made me more wary of companies like the one I mentioned above that said it could duplicate it.
I dont understand why anyone would try so hard to get the right feel with layers of latex and then use a wool cover and mattress pad that takes away from the feel of latex. That was another confusing point. I understand that changing layers may seem like a great idea and that pricing is also an incentive but after researching I feel more comfortable with a thicker core layer and not moving layers around. One dealer told me moving layers can eventually cause tearing of some of the latex where little pieces come off. I was happy with being able to try the mattress at the showroom and the one I chose seemed like it was right for me. Im going back to the store again to make sure.
The other confusing issue was this notion of ILD ---who labels them as such the dealer? If most get their latex from one source how do they order it? It seems simple but the posts seems to indicatt each brand has a different definition for soft firm and med. The more confused I got the more I thought something isnt making sense logically. Ordering online sounds great until I thought bout having to exchange a bed or return one and how to repackage something or figure what to do without a bed after I returned it. I most likely will go with my local store PLB as they will deliver set it up and take the old mattress. PLB has a great warranty as well I guess Im paying a little more than trying to duplicate it online but in the end I know what Im getting. All the best to you

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 17 Sep 2013 19:35 #40

I do stand by post that I dont believe the PLB can be duplicated exactly unless the exact materials were used and so far not one company has made that claim.
But maybe there will be a company that can get the exact materials

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