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03 Dec 2013 20:48 - 01 Nov 2018 09:25 #1 by TimJohnst
Ok… I apologize if this has been covered somewhere already. I've looked through some of the guides and I don't see anything specific to mattresses for the heavier set. My situation is:

Me: Back and side sleeper / 6'1" / ~305 lbs

Wife: Stomach and side sleeper / 5' 5" / ~250 lbs

Finding a durable and comfortable mattress has been a challenge. Due to our weight we are obviously hard on a mattress. Our last S company innerspring mattress became uncomfortable within a couple of years of purchase. So we decided to try an inexpensive memory foam mattress to see if we liked it. We bought a 12" memory foam mattress from amazon (Dynasty mattress) that was supposed to have 5" of 5 lb memory foam. For the first few months it was great. But after about a year it has really gone downhill. The top layer of foam instantly sinks in and does not provide any support. There not any obvious sagging in the mattress when you look at it. Just no support when you lay on it. Both my wife and I are waking up in pain so time for another mattress. This time I decided to do a little more research which is how I've ended up here.

I live in upstate NY (north of Albany) and local options are limited. It seems like mostly S brands and Tempurpedic in the local stores so I'm thinking I should purchase from a good mail order vendor like the ones you talk about here.

In my travels I did find one page that discussed mattresses for heavy people:

www.sleeplikethedead.com/mattress-heavy-people.html

About the only take aways from that page are:

1) Thicker is better
2) Latex and memory foam are probably our best choices

So here I am. I've been reading about the various mattress types and I think I'm leaning to trying a latex mattress but I haven't ruled out a memory foam model. I've spoken to a couple of different folks at brooklyn bedding. One person suggested I try a medium-firm memory foam model like the following:

ADMIN NOTE:Removed 404 page link | Archived Footprint: brooklynbedding.com/memory-foam-mattresses/cool-symphony-memory-foam

The other suggested either:

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or
brooklynbedding.com/latex-mattresses/10-inch-total-latex-mattress

I was also looking at the spindle mattress after I saw it mentioned on this site:

www.spindlemattress.com/collections/late...cts/latex-mattress-8

I was also intrigued by the hybrid latex/memory foam model at brooklyn:

ADMIN NOTE:Removed 404 page link | Archived Footprint: brooklynbedding.com/memory-foam-mattresses/14-inch-aloe-memory-foam-mattress

But according to the person I spoke with that is no longer carried.

Anyway…

Both my wife and I prefer a softer feeling bed but support and durability are key. If we go 100% latex I'm thinking something with a dunlop core and a Talalay comfort layer. If we go hybrid I'm thinking we need a good quality HD core like what you find Aloe Alexis.

Lastly, we've been a Queen bed couple forever but we are considering biting the bullet to move to King.

So some of my questions:

1) Am I off base here? Heading in the wrong direction or does this make sense?

2) Any specific suggestions for a big guy like me? Does latex or memory foam sound better for me? Specific material suggestions?

3) Would moving to a king mattress provide any benefits other then additional space? In our last couple of mattresses they seem to sag in the middle first and I'm wondering if the king size mattress would give us two person specific indentations and that might work out better for us?

Thanks in advance for any guidance you can give.
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03 Dec 2013 21:13 - 01 Nov 2018 09:37 #2 by dn
Hi TimJohnst,

It definitely sounds like you're on the right track and all makes good sense. If you've not seen it, the best place to start your research using this website is from the tutorial post. Phoenix does a wonderful job of identifying the steps to follow to help you find the best mattress for yourself.

www.themattressunderground.com/mattress-...-you-read-first.html

Besides being a wonderful starting point, the tutorial helps you understand some of the ways to evaluate if a mattress has a useful/suitable amount of softness, as well as correct support, as you wrote.
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03 Dec 2013 22:08 - 01 Nov 2018 09:39 #3 by Phoenix
Hi TimJohnst,

dn already linked the tutorial post which is the first place I would start. The same basic principles apply to heavier people as anyone else except you will need to put a special emphasis on more durable materials and constructions and probably on mattresses that have firmer comfort and support layers (firmer materials feel softer for heavier people and firmer support layers are usually important to for good alignment for higher weights). I would especially make sure you read the durability guidelines here and post #4 here about the factors that can affect durability and the useful life of a mattress. Post #2 here has some generic guidelines for different body types and sleeping positions, the first part of post #2 here also has more information about couples that have a larger weight differential and post #14 here has more about the benefits of thicker comfort layers and thicker mattresses (most of these are in the tutorial post but I thought I'd highlight them here as well)

There are also a number of forum posts and threads about mattresses and higher weights and a forum title search on heavy (you can just click this) will bring up many of them. Some examples include post #2 here and post #2 here and this thread

The choice of materials and components is a personal preference but it's important to make sure you choose a durable version of whatever materials you prefer. Latex (you can read more about the different types in post #6 here ), 5 lb or higher memory foam, 2 lb or higher polyfoam, and stronger innersprings with more steel or in the case of lower coil counts with lower gauge springs (around 13 gauge or lower) are all among some of the more durable materials and components that can work well for higher weight ranges. I would make sure that any lower quality foams are less than around an inch or so in a quilting layer because more than that can become the weak link in a mattress ... especially for someone that is heavier (unless of course the mattress is for shorter term use or for a guest bedroom where durability isn't as big an issue).

3) Would moving to a king mattress provide any benefits other then additional space? In our last couple of mattresses they seem to sag in the middle first and I'm wondering if the king size mattress would give us two person specific indentations and that might work out better for us?


The biggest benefit of a king size mattress is more room (it gives each person the equivalent of a twin size mattress) but there will also be more space in the middle that isn't used as often which can lead to some impressions on each side of the mattress and a "hill" in the middle as the center isn't slept on as much and some of the materials may shift towards the middle (see post #20 here ) which are more common in larger sizes. the most important thing is to make sure that you have durable materials in your mattress no matter which size is best for you so that foam softening and impressions doesn't lead to the premature loss of comfort and support that means the mattress will need to be replaced.

I live in upstate NY (north of Albany) and local options are limited. It seems like mostly S brands and Tempurpedic in the local stores so I'm thinking I should purchase from a good mail order vendor like the ones you talk about here.


Some of the better options and possibilities I'm aware of in the Albany, NY area are listed in post #4 here .

Hope this helps :)

Phoenix

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04 Dec 2013 17:51 #4 by TimJohnst
Thanks dn and Phoenix! Great information and I appreciate the time. All in all it looks like I'm on the right path. I just need to do more homework and see if I can find a local outlet that might carry latex mattresses in stock.

I called around some and I found one local outlet (metro mattress) that carries spring air latex mattresses in stock. One was "Natures Rest Peaceful Serenity" and the other was "Natures Rest Cabo San Luca". Of course I can't find anything with those names anywhere on the web but maybe I can get some sort idea of what laying on a latex mattress is like. I'll do a little shopping this weekend and see what I can find.

Thanks

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04 Dec 2013 21:34 - 01 Nov 2018 09:41 #5 by Phoenix
Hi TimJohnst,

Nature's Rest is made by Spring Air and includes all latex mattresses and latex/polyfoam hybrids so make sure the retailer can provide you with the specifics of the layers inside the mattresses you test so you know what you are testing.

Phoenix

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06 Dec 2013 12:10 #6 by TimJohnst
Thanks Phoenix…

The local retailer had two latex mattresses in stock and both were floor models on clearance. Unfortunately I was not able to get any specifics on the construction since he was pretty oblivious to the details. However, it did allow me to sample what it feels like to lay on latex and overall I was impressed. I guess my next decision is whether to go with latex over high quality foam or full latex.

I also spoke with someone at Spindle mattress who took a bunch of time talking to me. I was really impressed with his knowledge and willingness to educate me. He's not as big of a fan of latex over foam for someone my size and suggested either full latex or a 3" latex topper over a basic firm innerspring mattress with 13 gauge wire and as as little quilting as possible. If I went full latex he suggested using natural latex in the core due to its higher density.

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks

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06 Dec 2013 13:37 - 01 Nov 2018 09:42 #7 by Phoenix
Hi TimJohnst,

Any thoughts on this?


My thoughts would be very much along the same line as Neal's :)

You can also read a little more about an all latex mattress vs a latex polyfoam hybrid in post #2 here . At the very least I would make sure that with higher weights that there are thicker layers of latex in the upper layers of a latex/polyfoam hybrid mattress and that the polyfoam was a minimum of 2 lb density to better accommodate greater weights and improve durability.

Phoenix

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09 Dec 2013 13:56 #8 by TimJohnst
Well… After much research and thought, I finally settled on a new bed.

We are getting a 10" Total Latex model from Brooklyn Bedding. I selected the Natural Dunlop core and a Talalay comfort layer. At Mario's suggestion I selected the level 3 firmness.

I want to thank everyone for their help and I'll try and come back to update the thread with my thoughts after it arrives.

Thanks!

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09 Dec 2013 17:39 #9 by Phoenix
Hi TimJohnst,

Congratulations on your new mattress :)

You certainly made a great quality/value choice and I'm looking forward to your feedback once you've received it and had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.

Phoenix

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18 Feb 2014 07:20 - 01 Nov 2018 09:44 #10 by TimJohnst
Been on the new mattress for about 2 months now. Overall I'm pleased with the decision. We placed the mattress on a simple platform bed from overstock.com.

www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Solid-Maho...8163239/product.html

The slats are a little wide (3 3/4") but the bed is good quality.

My wife and I are both sleeping better. I still wake up with some back pain but it's shifted to my mid back instead of my lower back. I think this is due to the firmness of the bed and my side sleeping. I've been waiting to see how things go as the bed breaks in. I may exchange my side of the latex or I might just put on a 2" memory foam topper.

Anyway… I wanted to post a followup review in case anyone was in a similar situation. Good luck with your search!
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