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Memory foam mattress help 20 Feb 2014 00:35 #1

Mattressunderground has been very helpful in my mattress research and I have come down to the following list. Please help me decide

1) Amerisleep (Americana Bed 10 inches) : www.amerisleep.com/americana-bed.html
Memory foam layer: 3 inches, 4.5-lb density, 12 ILD
Support layer: 7 inches, 2.0-lb density, 35 ILD
Price ~$750

2) Novosbed Classic 10 inches bed: www.novosbed.com/product/classic-memory-foam-mattress/
Memory foam layer: 4 inches, 5.2-lb density
Support Layer: 6 inches, 2 lb density
Price: $879

3) My Luxury Mattress (9 inches serene) : www.myluxurymattress.com/coolmax-memory-foam-mattress.html
3" Preserve Memory Foam, 4.0lb density, IFD 12
6" Preserve Base Foam, 2.4lb density, IFD 36
Price: $600

4) FoamOrder (Queen 10 inch mattress)
Memory foam layer: 3 inches of 5.3 lbs density
Support Layer: 6", 2.4 lb density
Price: $808

Both Amerisleep and Novosbed have lots of positive reseller ratings. I could not find many online reviews for FoamOrder and MyLuxuryMattress which seem to be better value and is making me nervous purchasing them. Please help me select the best value mattress.

Info: I am 5'8" and weight ~180 lb's.

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Memory foam mattress help 20 Feb 2014 10:07 #2

Hi nms,

Have you read the tutorial post ? There is a link there to a list there of some of the better online memory foam sources that I'm aware of and I would also make sure you've evaluated each one based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you including the specifics of their return policies.

You can read a little more about Amerisleep in post #4 here and post #4 here and its sister companies in post #2 here . A forum search on Amerisleep will bring up more information as well. It may also be worthwhile reading some of the issues they have had with issuing refunds in their BBB complaints . As you can see they are more of a marketing company than "mattress people" and while they are probably better "value" than some of the more mainstream options ... they are probably the first one I would consider eliminating from your list.

I would also be very cautious with using online reviews to make a mattress choice (see post #13 here ).

The next thing I would do is make sure you have had a more detailed phone conversation with the others so that you are confident that the mattresses you are considering would be a good match for you in terms of PPP. This is the most important part of the "value" of a mattress purchase regardless of cost or even quality because if a mattress isn't suitable for your body type, sleeping positions, and personal preferences then no matter what its price it would have little value to you if you can't sleep on it. I would make sure that you are confident that any mattress you are considering has a good chance of working well for you and this would include talking with them about any local mattresses that may be similar to the one you are considering and then testing it in person to get a better sense of the feel and performance of the one you are considering. Your local testing can be a very important part of your conversation with each one, deciding on the choice that may be best for you, and the success of an online mattress purchase in general.

Next I would make sure you are completely familiar with the return or exchange policies of each of them. Even with your "best judgement" and the "best efforts" of an online retailer or manufacturer ... there is always a chance with an online purchase that you haven't tested in person that your actual sleeping experience will indicate the need to return or exchange the mattress because it isn't working as well for you as you'd hoped. One of the most important parts of your personal value equation is replacing hindsight with foresight and making sure you are comfortable with the return or exchange options you have after a purchase including knowing the procedure and any costs involved so you can factor this into your choice.

All of the remaining choices you have use good quality materials and there are no obvious weak links but I would also take your weight into account both to make sure that you are making a suitable choice and if you are in a higher weight range I would consider reducing the use of 4 lb memory foam for durability reasons.

Once you have taken all of this and any of the other parts of your personal value equation into account then you would be down to your finalists and be making comparisons between "good and good" and when there are no clear "winners" then post #2 here can help you make your final choice between them.

Phoenix
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Memory foam mattress help 21 Feb 2014 13:02 #3

Hi Nms,

Great advice from Phoenix (as usual).

With respect to reviews, we work extremely hard to ensure that our customers are ecstatic, even if they need to return their mattress. If you decide to go with Novosbed, it would be fantastic if you could post your own review and link to it from this thread!

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us.

All the best,
Novosbed
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Memory foam mattress help 28 Feb 2014 18:38 #4

Thanks for the awesome explanation. To add to my previous post:
I am 5'8" and 175 lbs and my wife is 5' and 130 lbs. We both are combo back/slide sleepers.

Based on your feedback, I have eliminated Amerisleep and MyLuxuryMattress. I went and tried out TempurPedic Contour Select (similar to Novosbed Classic) and Tempurpedic Cloud Supreme (similar to Novosbed Aria) and liked both mattresses. I will mostly choose Novosbed Classic.

After going through the forum, I have added Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams to my list.
a) Ultimate Dreams 13" (Similar to Cloud Luxe ) -> $700
3" of 4lb gel memory foam, 2" of 5lb memory foam, 8" base of premium base foam 1.5 lb
b) Ultimate Dreams 12" (Similar to Cloud Supreme ) -> $600
1.5" of 4lb gel memory foam, 2.5" of 4lb memory foam, 8" base of premium base foam 1.5 lb

A few more questions I had was:
1) Is the 12" inch a good option for my weight since I liked the Cloud Supreme?

2) I am also a bit concerned with the density of the base foam layer. When I talked to Dreamfoam, they said that is the density of tempurpedic mattresses and they have had no issues.

3) The Dreamfoam mattresses have a lower price point than most mattresses despite having decent layers of density of foam. They are Certipur certified too. They do have restricted warranties/return policies (20 year and only 30 day return with customer responsible for shipping except Amazon). Does this drive down the cost or should I be concerned about the quality of materials/construction?

P.S: Dreamfoam only offers a free pillow for mattress underground members. They mentioned that 5% discount is no longer applicable.

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Memory foam mattress help 28 Feb 2014 19:20 #5

Hi nms,

A few more questions I had was:
1) Is the 12" inch a good option for my weight since I liked the Cloud Supreme?


Thickness isn't nearly as important as the specific design and the combination of materials that are inside the 12" although if you are comparing two mattresses that are otherwise identical except one has a thicker base layer then the thicker mattress will tend to "feel" a little softer (again for people who would notice the difference).

2) I am also a bit concerned with the density of the base foam layer. When I talked to Dreamfoam, they said that is the density of tempurpedic mattresses and they have had no issues.


The support layers generally aren't the "weak link" of a mattress and it's true that Tempurpedic reduced the specs of their base foam to 1.5 lbs and for most people it wouldn't be an issue. In higher weight ranges though where the base foam would be compressed more then it could be more of a factor and in this case someone may be better off choosing a mattress that used higher density foams and paying any extra cost that would be involved. All of this is part of all the tradeoffs that are involved in any mattress choice where PPP, cost, durability, and all the other parts of each person's personal value equation that are important to that person will play a role in deciding on the "value" of a mattress purchase.

3) The Dreamfoam mattresses have a lower price point than most mattresses despite having decent layers of density of foam. They are Certipur certified too. They do have restricted warranties/return policies (20 year and only 30 day return with customer responsible for shipping except Amazon). Does this drive down the cost or should I be concerned about the quality of materials/construction?


Return policies are all built into the cost of a mattress along with every other feature or option that is part of the mattress or the mattress purchase (such as free shipping etc.). You can see an example of the math in post #25 here . In effect the people who don't return a mattress pay for the ones who do. The quality of the materials are always more important than a warranty IMO (you can read more about warranties here ) and if there is defective construction or materials in a mattress it will tend to show up early in the life of a mattress.

You can also read more about the variables that are involved in durability and the useful life of a mattress relative to each person in post #4 here and the posts it links to.

Phoenix
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