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Opinions on the "split" in a split king? 11 Mar 2014 11:54 #1

I'm curious as to the opinions of those who have, or have had, a split king regarding the "split". Do/did you "notice" it? Does/did it bother you? If you had it to do again would you (or did you) go back to a non-split? Etc.

My wife and I have been on a non-split king for over a decade. But it is a Select Comfort with seperate air bladders - so we could each have our side det to our preferred "number".

We are now likely going to move to an all-latex bed (thanks to the great advice on this site). We're seriously considering a split king so that she can have the comfort and support she likes and I can have the comfort and support I like. Another reason we are considering the split king is that we are also considering an adjustable foundation (if not right now, then within the next year) and we'd like to be able to adjust seperately.

I know we can get an all-latex regular king with seperate latex layers for giving the seperate comfort and support in a non-split king, but I've found a couple of qaulity local manufacturers that I like and they don't do split layers. Plus, we wouldn't be able to have seperate positions on an adjustable foundation.

So having never experienced a split king, I'm curious about opinions on the "split".

Thanks.

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Opinions on the "split" in a split king? 11 Mar 2014 13:16 #2

Hi JoelD,

Hopefully some of the members here that are using two twin XL's as a king size mattress will see your post and comment but I think it's probably fair to say that most people would feel the split in between the mattresses ... particularly if they use or sleep in the center of the mattress or with some of the other activities that take place on a mattress. It will also depend on how flush the two mattresses fit together and different people would of course have different opinions about whether the tradeoffs were worth it so I would also be very interested in any feedback from members and how they feel about the tradeoffs involved.

Post #8 here also has some information about split mattresses and options that can mask the split if you do go in this direction and decide that you don't like the feel of the split in between the mattresses.

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Opinions on the "split" in a split king? 11 Mar 2014 15:52 #3

Hi Phoenix,

Your reply made me think of something to mention, and I found a discussion about this in another forum that also brought it to mind...

99% of the time my wife and I each both sleep fully on our side of the mattress.

(Mainly because I sleep hot already and if she were to sleep next to me her added body heat would make me too hot to sleep comfortably. And in fact I use a thin blanket on my side and we slide the king comforter to where it is just on her side because even just a portion of the comforter on me makes me uncomforably warm.)

Also, my wife has chronic back issues so she is often changing position, adding/removing pillows (head and body pillows), and even sometimes going out to sleep on our recliners, sofas, or kids beds to find something makes her comfortable. So if we do go with an adjustable bed I really think the split design will be the best choice, so that she can adjust her side as much as she needs to in order to get comfortable while not affecting my position. That alone might make the tradeoffs of having the "split" worth it.

The few responses in that other discussion basically say that you definitely notice there are two seperate beds, but a soft edge mattress (like latex) makes the transition "not uncomfortable", and it sounded like that mostly they felt the benefits outway any concerns with the "split".

As you, I'll be interested to hear the feedback from any TMU members.

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Opinions on the "split" in a split king? 11 Mar 2014 17:50 #4

Hi JoelD,

The few responses in that other discussion basically say that you definitely notice there are two seperate beds, but a soft edge mattress (like latex) makes the transition "not uncomfortable", and it sounded like that mostly they felt the benefits outway any concerns with the "split".


I would agree that a mattress that has a more square shape with sharper edges with either latex or memory foam on top and that has no tape edge or seam or "rounding" on the upper edges would minimize the feel of any gap or split between them.

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Opinions on the "split" in a split king? 11 Mar 2014 18:27 #5

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Hi JoelD
I have slept on a split king for over 2 years. My side of the bed was a 32 ILD talalay latex with a 2 inch 5 lbs memory foam topper, my partner had a 28iLD talalay latex core with a 2 inch 3 lbs Energia topper.

I did not feel the split in the mattress, only the difference in softness when rolling over on her side. It was a little awkward when making love, so we solved this issue by choosing to do it on 1 side of the bed, and avoiding the split! :P

I would definitely getting a king split, since most prefer to have their own comfort level, and this can easily be done with a latex split!

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Opinions on the "split" in a split king? 12 Mar 2014 05:57 #6

I've been struggling with the idea split layers as well, among other difficult mattress related decisions. I've been searching this and other sites with customer reviews and I did find a couple of reviews where a few years (4+) after purchase that the layers would begin to shift and/or the reviewer began to feel center seam. One reviewer had suggested that shifting was due to the loosening of the cover over the years. One of these reviews mentioned that if the firmness between the sides was significantly different then one of the occupants may in fact roll onto the other side if he/she sleeps near the center seam.

The more I think about it, it seems that layering and split seams is more of a necessity for online sellers with regards to addressing customer satisfaction and handling returns/exchanges because your shipping smaller and lighter sections vs having to return an entire mattress. It's not inherently "better" unless two people have vastly different PPP.

I think one or two online retailers include a latex "egg shell" topper to help prevent one from feeling the center seam, but if the layers eventually shift apart I wonder if the topper would eventually develop a tear. Probably not a big deal if its 6 yrs down the road and you can just replace it.

Personally, I think if both you and your spouse have similar PPP then buying a mattress with glued/bonded sections would be ideal. If your PPP is different then understand that down the road a few years you may have to replace a cover because your sections are moving around.

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Opinions on the "split" in a split king? 12 Mar 2014 06:29 #7

To be clear... we're trying to decide on a split king - two separate xl twin beds pushed together to make a king.

But I definitely appreciate the thoughts on split layers, because if we don't go with a split king then we will definitely need to consider doing split layers in a regular king since my wife's back issues definitely require a different PPP from mine.

And I'd be interested in what particular mattress(es) got those complaints of split layers shifting since I would expect an issue like that would be very dependent on several things, not the least of which would be the design and construction of the cover for that particular mattress.

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Opinions on the "split" in a split king? 12 Mar 2014 08:43 #8

Hi KM,

As JoelD mentioned, split layering is off the topic of this thread but I thought I would reply because your comments about split layering certainly wouldn't represent the experience of the large majority of the people who use them very successfully over long periods of time or the main reasons that the manufacturers use them either. I think that the few reviews you found (out of probably tens of thousands of people who use split layering) are probably confusing the feeling of the transition between the layers with feeling the split itself or have unusual issues or circumstances that puts their experience inside a very small percentile of the people who use them (see post #2 here )

Even over time ... you won't generally find that the sections are shifting and there are some advantages to having layers that can be replaced individually with a zip cover that for the large majority of people who use split layering would easily offset any ability to feel the different firmness levels on each side.

Personally, I think if both you and your spouse have similar PPP then buying a mattress with glued/bonded sections would be ideal. If your PPP is different then understand that down the road a few years you may have to replace a cover because your sections are moving around.


While one of the advantages of a component mattress is that you can do just that (replace the cover) ... it's also very unlikely to be necessary in a few years and the sections certainly wouldn't be "moving around".

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Opinions on the "split" in a split king? 12 Mar 2014 11:11 #9

Phoenix wrote: Hi KM,

As JoelD mentioned, split layering is off the topic of this thread but I thought I would reply because your comments about split layering certainly wouldn't represent the experience of the large majority of the people who use them very successfully over long periods of time or the main reasons that the manufacturers use them either. I think that the few reviews you found (out of probably tens of thousands of people who use split layering) are probably confusing the feeling of the transition between the layers with feeling the split itself or have unusual issues or circumstances that puts their experience inside a very small percentile of the people who use them (see post #2 here )

Even over time ... you won't generally find that the sections are shifting and there are some advantages to having layers that can be replaced individually with a zip cover that for the large majority of people who use split layering would easily offset any ability to feel the different firmness levels on each side.

Personally, I think if both you and your spouse have similar PPP then buying a mattress with glued/bonded sections would be ideal. If your PPP is different then understand that down the road a few years you may have to replace a cover because your sections are moving around.


While one of the advantages of a component mattress is that you can do just that (replace the cover) ... it's also very unlikely to be necessary in a few years and the sections certainly wouldn't be "moving around".

Phoenix


I understand but as you know most mattress reviews are over a relatively "new" purchase. This is the honeymoon period similar to car buying. I was lucky to find a few reviews of mattress owners who purchased their mattress 4+ years ago. You'll have to trust me some weren't confusing shift when they say "I'm getting tired of having to reset the layers every two weeks, because they're shifting" I'm of the opinion that it would be at this age where latex should really show its advantages over an innerspring for example. Granted they were a minorty of less than satisfied(sp?) owners, but worthy of consideration because it covers something (layer shifting) that many potential customers (myself included) are concerned about. Granted you've never said it would not happen, but that it would be "unlikely" or "won't generally".

I initially didn't realize my post was OT as I had misread it Free free to delet it.

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Opinions on the "split" in a split king? 12 Mar 2014 12:12 #10

Hi km,

You'll have to trust me some weren't confusing shift when they say "I'm getting tired of having to reset the layers every two weeks, because they're shifting" I'm of the opinion that it would be at this age where latex should really show its advantages over an innerspring for example. Granted they were a minorty of less than satisfied(sp?) owners, but worthy of consideration because it covers something (layer shifting) that many potential customers (myself included) are concerned about.


I certainly trust that you've read these reviews (such as the two here posted by the same person) and I've read them as well. I have spent a LOT of time with research of all types over the years (including much more than just reviews on the internet which I also consider to be unreliable for many reasons) and I consider the few of these I've read to be anomalies and not at all representative of the vast majority of people who have owned latex mattresses with split layers and zip covers for many years.

I initially didn't realize my post was OT as I had misread it Free free to delet it.


It's certainly a "related" issue and there are many people who have the concern about split layers so while it's been discussed on many occasions ... it's always worthwhile having another discussion so that others who may have similar unfounded concerns about the layers shifting can be re-assured.

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