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Best Pressure relieving Mattress or Topper 8lb density 6lb? if its avaiable

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14 Oct 2015 17:23 #1 by AnointedMatt
Hi IM A DISABLED VET who can only sleep on my right side. I have used a 3" 5 lb density on top of a 4lb density and 3 lb base AND Still can only sleep 4-5 hrs in a 10 hr span. I get soreness on my shoulder and hip. I know i need more pressure relief and from what ive experienced and read the higher the densiyt the more pressure reilf and i do know of one bed co. Christeli which uses a 2" 6lb density with 4" 5lb density but its very pricey for me. They do have all great reviews which is uncommon in my research. i thought if i could find a 8lb density *( venus) or 6lb density and put it on my bed i would be better off at a less expensive price. I would appreciate any help and if another material other than memoryfoam would work id like to know. i did talk ith foamfactory.com out of Michigan and they have a 6lb density seat cushion and the cust. serv. rep said she would see it they could make a topper for me.

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14 Oct 2015 17:52 - 14 Jan 2019 19:07 #2 by mattress maven
ADMIN NOTE:Retired Website | Archived Footprint: ebay.com/itm/7-5LB-DENSITY-QUEEN-2-MEMORY-FOAM-MATTRESS-PAD-TOPPER-W-COVER-/321892653410?hash=item4af24c1962

it's sold by foambymail. the ild is really low at 9 -- so i don't know if it will give you the support you need.. according to ebay buyer ratings, the people who have bought seem to think it's great. but let other people chime in on foambymail, etc.

i know someone who has the same issue as you. he is using a soft latex dunlop core with 3 inches of 5lb denisty memory foam he bought off amazon. this finally did the trick for him -- but again one can't speak for anyone else. i don't know if your body types correlate etc. he's very thin and has several severe issues allowing him only to sleep on his right side too. he also several pillows to make himself more comfortable.

i wish you the best!!!!
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14 Oct 2015 18:14 - 14 Jan 2019 19:12 #3 by Phoenix
Hi AnointedMatt,

I get soreness on my shoulder and hip. I know i need more pressure relief and from what ive experienced and read the higher the densiyt the more pressure reilf


I would be cautious with the assumption that higher density memory foam provides better pressure relief because in many cases it certainly isn't true. Any density of memory foam can be made in softer or firmer versions depending on the chemical formulation of the foam. There is more about the different properties that can be formulated into memory foam in post #9 here and post #8 here and there is also more about the different specifications that can affect pressure relief in post #4 here . The density of memory foam (up to about 6 lbs or so) is much more closely related to the durability of memory foam than it is related to the firmness or pressure relief of memory foam and it's very possible that you would do better with a lower density and softer memory foam topper.

The choice of material for a topper is more of a preference choice than a "better/worse" choice but the two most popular topper materials that both have great point elasticity and pressure relieving properties are memory foam and latex. There is more about the pros and cons of memory foam vs latex in post #2 here .

While they used to be more readily available ... I don't know of any legitimate source for memory foam toppers that are currently available that are more than about 6 lb density.

The first "rule" of mattress (or topper) shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress or a mattress/topper combination and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or topper or combination of materials and components would be the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort" or PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) or how a mattress or mattress/topper combination will "feel" to you based on specs (either yours or a mattress) or "theory at a distance" that can possibly be more accurate than your own careful testing (using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see post #2 here ).

While it's not possible to make specific suggestions because of all the many variables involved that are unique to each person and your own experience is the only way to know for certain whether any mattress/topper combination will be a good "match" for you in terms of PPP ... there is more information about choosing a topper in post #2 here and the topper guidelines it links to that can help you use your sleeping experience along with the other information I linked as a reference point and guideline to help you choose the type, thickness, and firmness for a topper that has the least possible risk and the best chance for success. It also includes a link to a list of some of the better online sources for toppers I'm aware of as well.

Choosing a suitable topper that is a good combination for both you and the mattress you are using it on (different mattresses will affect the choice of topper that works best for a particular person) can be almost as challenging as choosing a mattress that doesn't need a topper in the first place (especially if there are health issues or other more challenging circumstances involved that may not be completely solvable with either a mattress or a topper) so the exchange/return policy for a topper you purchase can become a more important part of the "value" of a topper purchase just in case a topper you purchase doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for.

i did talk ith foamfactory.com out of Michigan and they have a 6lb density seat cushion and the cust. serv. rep said she would see it they could make a topper for me.


If you are planning to order from Foambymail (AKA FBM or Foam Factory and other names as well) then I would read this post and this post and this topic (about their polyfoam and sources) and this post (presumably from a past employee) before buying anything or considering them as a reliable supplier.

ADDED: I don't believe the density for the FBM ebay topper that is mentioned in the reply before mine is legitimate and I would be very cautious about purchasing anything from them based on their descriptions.

Phoenix

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Last edit: 14 Jan 2019 19:12 by Administrator TMU. Reason: Updating link to https: status

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14 Oct 2015 18:47 #4 by mattress maven
didn't realize FBM was so awful.

you can just remove the post if you like.

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14 Oct 2015 20:30 - 14 Oct 2015 20:31 #5 by Phoenix
Hi mattress maven,

you can just remove the post if you like.


It would probably be more helpful to leave it so that it can act as a "caution" for others that are considering the same topper :).

Phoenix

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14 Oct 2015 23:13 #6 by AnointedMatt
Ty, mattress maven, i saw the 7.5lb on ebay. i have talked with fbm and they have been very nice, but they d have 50-50 reviews good and bad and one stated as Phoenix about not getting what ordered. But at 65 plus ship of 35 for a 7.5 lb density with 9 ild its hard to look away. maybe Phoenix can tell me what the specs are to see if it matches when i call them and ask about specs. on ebay reviews everybody loves the 7.5lb density foam it does say its a overrun production yet they've sod them for one year , but when i ask the cust. service they don't mention it although im supposed to talk with Connie or Carlo so i try that tomorrow. i googled the 5lb soft latex dunlap but didnt find anything but i always felt latex was to firm and im not feelin memory with gel because of off gassing and decomposing issues because gel and foam i don't think mix well.

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14 Oct 2015 23:24 #7 by Phoenix
Hi AnointedMatt,

but they d have 50-50 reviews good and bad and one stated as Phoenix about not getting what ordered. But at 65 plus ship of 35 for a 7.5 lb density with 9 ild its hard to look away. maybe Phoenix can tell me what the specs are to see if it matches when i call them and ask about specs.


While I don't know what the "real" density is ... they have a long history of misdescribing their products including listing the density of some of their ebay products as a weight per 2 cubic feet rather than 1 cubic feet (which would mean that the "real" density was 3.75 lbs). You can determine the density of a foam material by calculating the cubic feet in a topper and then dividing the weight of the topper by the cubic feet. It would also be highly unlikely that the ILD of a 7.5 lb density memory foam would be 9 ILD which is typically the ILD for much lower density toppers.

I personally wouldn't do business with them based on principle alone much less the chance that what you are buying is being misdescribed.

Phoenix

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15 Oct 2015 09:32 #8 by AnointedMatt
What specific are you talking about when yo say they fbm don't follow the law in their business something about fire code. when you you measure for weight per sq.ft. for a queen 60x 80 2inch foam i would figure of the to of my head that were talking about 6.5 sq ft so at 7.5 lbs a sq. it should weigh about 50 lbs.
ty, for your help Phoenix

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15 Oct 2015 10:44 - 15 Oct 2015 10:44 #9 by Phoenix
Hi AnointedMatt,

What specific are you talking about when yo say they fbm don't follow the law in their business something about fire code.


I'm not sure what you mean or what you are referring to with your comments here. I certainly don't recall mentioning anything about "following the law".

Density is calculated as weight per unit of volume so it would use cubic feet (not square feet).

Phoenix

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15 Oct 2015 11:11 #10 by Chapps
Your post really hits home with me. I'm not a vet - instead, I have an autoimmune arthritis, which has all but disabled me. I've also had four spine surgeries in the last three months. Prior to the surgeries, I was in top shape, even though I used crutches.

Sleep is something that I rarely get enough of, due to the pain of sleeping on just about any mattress. I'd finally had enough recently and began to do my research. I sent an email to Derek of the Sleepopolis about a recommendation for a mattress that would meet my needs. He wrote back, asking a lot of important questions, which I responded to - and he came up with a couple of recommendations tailored to my needs. Luckily, one of the recommendations was for a mattress at Nest Bedding - the Alexander - and Nest has a showroom in the Los Angeles area. I went there and tried out the bed. It was very nice for back sleeping, but I mainly sleep on my right side, since my left ribs and shoulder are too painful to sleep on. When I turned over on my right side, I couldn't believe how comfortable I was. The bed molded to me, but didn't sink in too far (I was on their medium firmness model). In fact, I was so comfortable that I fell asleep!

I ordered the Alexander immediately, along with two of Nest's Easy Breather Natural pillows, since they were on the top of every review site as perfect and *adjustable density* pillows. You can unzip the pillow and remove as much of their latex 'noodles' as necessary to tailor the comfort to the user. All of these items are showing up today - I'm incredibly excited. You should go to Sleepopolis.com and send Derek an email, asking about your needs. All he asks is that you use the links that he provides, if you get one of his recommended mattresses. You get a discount, and he gets the credit with the mattress company.

If I were you, I'd seriously consider the Alexander from Nest. But I'll report back after I've used it at home for a while.

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