Hi. Hoping you can help. Bought a lot of beds in the past. All have not been so good. I have always heard great things about Temperpedic and decided to buy one. When I went into the store they suggested I comfort as being relatively the same except they are cooler because of the gel and less expensive. I just want a great sleep. I don't care about gimmicks warenty or extra pillows. Putting cost aside assuming I am getting it for free and forgetting all the gimmicks and extra pillows which bed in you opinion and in the opinion of your readers is better. Thanks. Dan
In essence ... the Tempurpedic is a higher quality lineup but significantly overpriced compared with many other choices that are widely available. The iComfort have hit a "sweet spot" in terms of how they feel (they are a nicer feeling memory foam mattress lineup) but the quality of the materials and the design of the mattresses caters more to a "showroom feel" that unfortunately is the basis of how many people choose a mattress than it does to long term satisfaction and durability in daily use.
There is a set of
that may help you avoid most of the worst choices when you are immersed in the frustrating and confusing world of mattress shopping.
Local factory direct manufacturers or smaller brands sold through better sleep shops are usually far better quality and have lower prices ... meaning better value.
If you let me know the city you're in I'd be happy to see if I know of any better choices in your area.
Im in Baltimore. I am sure there are a lot. I understand your concern with the price, as I am too, but I really want to know about the quality. Assuming I have a way of getting it for practically half price, it would put the temperpedic in line with the rest and your post says they are high quality but over priced, so I dont want to assume anything but that would insinuate to me that in your opinion if the price was slashed it would be on your buying list? Am I right or do you still think they are not good?
I understand your concern with the price, as I am too, but I really want to know about the quality. Assuming I have a way of getting it for practically half price, it would put the temperpedic in line with the rest
Yes ... the quality is high without a doubt. I also like the range of different designs and the layering patterns they use so that almost anyone who likes their particular types of memory foam can fine a "match" with their personal needs and preferences. Assuming you like the feel of the Tempur memory foam vs the feel of other types of memory foam of equal quality but different properties ... it would be a very good value at half price IMO. So you're correct my only "concern" with Tempurpedic is based on its value compared to other equally high quality memory foam mattresses.
With the iComfort lineup ... my "concern" is with price, the quality of some of the "ingredients" they use, and the layering in some cases which I believe could lead to some poor choices for those who make a purchase based on subjective ideas of "comfort" alone without regard to the more objective concepts of support and the effect that thick layers of soft materials in the comfort layers (which will get softer) can have on their long term sleeping satisfaction in the "real" world outside of the showroom.
Thank you very much for your feedback. It has really helped me in the process. Its nice to know there is still a forum where one can get unbiased advise. Wish we had this for everything out there including cars, TV's etc!!
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should be helpful. There are lots of very good choices there and while all of them aren't in the San Fernando valley, some are in the valley or within reasonable driving distance.
A forum search on "Los Angeles" (without the quotes) will bring up a list of complete posts which you can scan for more information about various manufacturers that are included in the list or member experiences with some of them. A list of all the threads that include "Los Angeles" (but which only has the first few lines of the first post that includes the search term) can be seen with a site search (the search window at the top of the page).
Good luck ... and feel free to post if you have questions along the way.
Step 2: Gather some basic information about mattress materials and construction which can help you ask better questions. Scanning the overviews in the
will help with this.
Step 3: Do some initial research into the local manufacturers and better sleep shops within reasonable driving distance.
(or the fact that they are a
member of this site
) will help you identify them. For those who don't know of any better possibilities in their area ... feel free to ask on the forum and I'll let know about any I may know of within reasonable driving distance.
In your case, you are fortunate to live where you do because you have some great choices in the area. Some of our members are very close to you which means that you have access to some of the best quality and value in the country. You will find them along with some of the other possibilities in your area in
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. (for others who are reading this then a forum search for your city or question on the forum including your city or zip will give you the better possibilities in your area I'm aware of).
Step 4. Connect with the "experts" at the better outlets near you who will help you identify the types of materials and mattresses that may work best for you and fits your budget. Use their help and guidance to help you find the one that best meets your needs and preferences. This is what I call PPP (Pressure relief, Posture and alignment, and Personal Preferences). Choose your "top choice" at each manufacturer or retail outlet you are working with.
Step 5: Narrow down your top choices based on all the factors and tradeoffs that are most important to you (
post #2 here
may be helpful with this). At this stage all your choices will likely be good ones (and better than anything you would have found with a major brand or at a mass market outlet). While narrowing them down to one based on your own personal "value equation" can be difficult ... in the end you may need to just close your eyes, grit your teeth ... and pull the trigger. At this point you really can't make a mistake and the one you choose may just have some fine detail that tips the balance.
In those areas of the country where there are no better quality and/or value choices available in your area ... then I would look online and use the experience and expertise of the members listed in
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who are all very experienced and knowledgeable and specialize in providing the type of help and guidance on the phone that can help you make good choices. Their detailed knowledge of their mattresses and how they fit with different body types and sleeping positions along with your feedback from local testing, a customer base of many people that they can use as reference points, and any exchange policies they may have can greatly lower the risk of an online purchase. They can also be a good "value reference" for local purchases to make sure that any "premium" you are paying for a local purchase (in exchange for the kind of "in person" guidance, service, and value that comes with dealing with a local retailer that can help you make more "accurate" choices that you have tested in person) is not too high.
I am currently looking at an iComfort but after this read I guess I will cross that off my list. The more I read the more confused I become. There a couple of mattress factories near me but not on your list of members. Have you ever heard of Verlo or Bemco? Thank you in advance.
Verlo is a Regional factory direct manufacturer which makes a wide range of different mattresses including innersprings, latex, and memory foam. Because they are a manufacturer ... they are much more open about the materials that are in their mattresses which of course is the best way to know the quality and value of a mattress. They tend to have better than average value and are certainly a better choice than the mainstream outlets or brands. Their are many references to them in the forum (a forum search on "Verlo" will bring them up) and I usually list them as one of the better possibilities in areas where they have an outlet. The knowledge and service levels at most outlets are generally better than average but this can vary from outlet to outlet as you can see in
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. In most areas ... they would represent some of the better "local" value.
Bemco is a licensing group and each factory that uses it builds their own mattress and attaches the Bemco name to it. Once again ... the particular quality or value of any mattress will depend on the materials that are in it but the better manufacturers will provide you with this information. A
forum search on Bemco
(you can just click this) will bring up some more references to them as well.
There may also be some other good options near you depending on where you live and if you let me know the city or zip where you live I'd be happy to let you know of any of the better factory direct outlets or better sleep shops I'm aware of that are within reasonable driving distance.
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includes some of the better options in the Springfield, IL region. The ones that are right in Springfield include ...
Springfield IL. (and others in the area). Regional factory direct manufacturer. Makes a full range of mattresses of all types including innerspring, memory foam (incl gel) and latex. Was previously part of Vymac but was recently sold in the beginning of 2012 to Marcus investments so I don't know how this will affect their product or service. Hopefully it will as good as it was.
Springfield, IL (and others in the area). Regional factory direct manufacturer. Also makes a wide range of mattresses including latex and memory foam with better quality and value than the major brands but no memory foam. I would avoid the major brands they also carry
Springfield (and others in the area). Another regional factory direct outlet that produces a range of mattresses including latex, memory foam (incl gel) and innersprings.
Retail outlet in Springfield, Bloomington (and other locations). Carries Pure Latex Bliss which are a line of high quality talalay latex mattresses with "better than average" value compared to other mainstream mattresses.
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also includes some additional choices in the St Louis area if you wish to travel a little further afield or if you go there anyway).
Thank you again for all the valuable info. I didnt realize there was so much to learn about a mattress. Right now I think I am leaning towards the Select Foam Aurora HD but I want to explore the options that you have listed.