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The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 14 Feb 2013 18:27 #481

Thank you for suggesting SleepingOrganic in Charleston. We had our appointment with Brandon yesterday and placed an order with him. He was extremely accommodating and we were able to try different configurations of layers.
We originally thought my husband and I would have different needs for each side, but we wound up doing the same on each side.
I need to mention, both of us alternate between sleeping on our backs and on our sides.
We chose:
Layer #1 N4Talalay - Soft
Layer #2 D80 Dunlop - Medium
Layer #3 D75 Dunlop - Medium
Layer #4 D85 Dunlop - Firm

We've been married 50 years and have never had anything but firm mattresses, more recently with pillowtops. The idea of having such a soft top is new to us, but it felt oh so comfortable. Of course, the true test will be sleeping on it. However, we have a lot of options for exchanging layers and even returning the whole mattress in 90 days.

I'll keep you updated when it arrives and we get to sleep on it.

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The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 14 Feb 2013 22:23 #482

Hi mimi42,

Congratulations on your new mattress :)

Latex is unusual in that it can be both very soft and supportive at the same time. Part of the reason it can feel so soft is because it is very "point elastic" which means that it can conform to the body very well and relieve pressure (as effectively as memory foam but with a different "feel" and less "in the mattress"). It is also very good at adapting to different weights and sleeping positions. This means that even softer latex can keep you in good alignment which is the real goal of what people call "support".

Your mattress sounds great and I'm looking forward to your feedback when you've had the chance to sleep on it.

Phoenix
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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 15 Feb 2013 02:01 #483

As always Phoenix, I appreciate you as a class act. I love to "stimulate" discussion, even if just for the exercise.

You're one of the most knowledgable hosts I've ever read on a forum. I'll be gracious enough to contribute if I have something worthwhile.

A good ending is also a good beginning.

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The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 15 Feb 2013 23:17 #484

Hello Phoenix,

My husband and I are currently looking to buy a memory foam mattress. We purchased a stearns and foster euro pillowtop mattress last year and we hate it, we wake up tired and in pain each day. We have been looking at mattresses at the regular retail mattress stores, and we happened to like the Serta icomfort mattresses. I wanted to do some research before we bought another mattress and end up hating it like the one we have now. That is when I stumbled upon this site and I have read many of the comments you have made about serta and other big name brand mattresses. I never thought about it before but what you say makes a lot of sense and its true, a lot of these companies charge so much money and you are not getting the quality mattress they advertise. We spent a good amount of money on the Stearns and Foster mattress we bought last year and after several months it became our worst nightmare. I have decided to take your advice and avoid buying one of the major brand mattresses, and look for a local manufacturer, but I need some help. I found a website called healthy foundations, they advertise a 10'' memory foam mattress that seems to have some of the components you talk about, I think. Are you familiar with this site and would you recommend this would be a good purchase. Do you know of any local manufacturers in my area. I live in Atlanta Georgia. Thanks for all the helpful information, if I had not stumbled upon the site I would be sleeping on a Serta icomfort mattress right now and based on what you have said I would have been disappointed.

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The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 16 Feb 2013 03:38 #485

Hi msanchez,

Healthy Foundations offer only one mattress and there are some things I would want to know before I considered them.

The guidelines I use for a memory foam mattress are here . Healthy Foundations doesn't say whether their memory foam is CertiPur certified but they do say it's made in North America which is the minimum alternative I would consider. I would ask them however if their foam was CertiPur certified (NOTE ADDED: They are now on the CertiPur list and they now list their specs which are within the guidelines I would suggest using)

They meet the other qualifications that are listed.

So they meet the criteria and In terms of "value" they are certainly reasonable. I wouldn't put them in the "best value" category though compared to some of the other options that are available to you in post #12 here .

The other difficulty I would have is that they only sell one mattress and while it has a similar construction and quality/density of materials to the old Tempur Cloud Supreme (and Cloud Supreme Breeze) in terms of foam density and layering ... they say it has a different feel and performance. Before I purchased a mattress online I would want to know a little more about whether it was likely to be suitable for my personal needs and preferences in terms of PPP (Pressure relief, Posture and alignment, and Personal preferences) because there is no such thing as a "one size fits all" mattress (which they themselves acknowledge). They suggest to read the reviews to get a sense of how it feels but this is both misleading and confusing because a mattress can feel very different to different people and their reviews don't include the body type and sleeping position of the people who bought them and include many conflicting opinions about how the mattress feels (which is typical for reviews which you can read about here ). Different body types, sleeping positions, preferences, and sensitivities means that each person can perceive the same mattress very differently (which is clear from the reviews).

Without being able to test a mattress with an online purchase I would want to improve the odds that a mattress was suitable for my needs and preferences and I would have some difficulty with an online retailer who only sold one mattress (and presumably would suggest that anyone try it) and didn't have the ability to match different models to different people or at least indicate which mattress it may approximate unless I was confident it was a good "match" for me. Outside of their trial offer .... they don't have a way to "match" different people to a mattress. Of course they do offer a return if it doesn't work which is a good thing and reduces the risk of any online purchase but I would be much more inclined to increase the odds of making the most suitable choice possible in the first place.

So overall they are a better choice than most of the mainstream mattresses that are available in terms of quality/value but I would personally prefer a retailer or manufacturer with a little better selection and a little better overall "value".

Some of the better options and possibilities in the Atlanta area are listed in post #2 here and I would certainly do some local testing on some good quality and value mattresses where you know the layering so that at the very least you have some reference points and at best you test a mattress that is exactly what you want and matches your "personal value equation" .

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The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 17 Feb 2013 03:26 #486

Phoenix,

I checked out some of the sites of the manufacturers that you suggested for the Atlanta area. My husband and I plan on visiting some of the stores closest to us tomorrow. I was a bit confused with some information I read on the original mattress factory website. It said that they use a combination of 40% natural latex and 60% synthetic latex, because a blend is best as it creates the most consistent and comfortable product. Is this true or should you only have natural latex. I was not familiar with latex until reading some of the information on here, and based on what I read about its pain relieving benefits I am considering it as an option. I also wanted to ask you for some suggestions as to what layers we should have in the mattress. I am 5'1 125 pounds and my husband is 5'7 195 pounds. While giving birth to my daughter I had to get an epidural and after that my back has never been the same. I suffer from a lot of lower back pain and although we like the feel of a soft mattress we want something that will give us proper support and spine alignment. I was thinking of getting the latex and memory foam combination, which I think was suggested here as the best thing to do for people interested in a foam mattress. Based on our height and weight do you think that would be a good ide?. As far as the latex would the talalay or the Dunlop work best?

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The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 17 Feb 2013 04:21 #487

Hi msanchez,

I was a bit confused with some information I read on the original mattress factory website. It said that they use a combination of 40% natural latex and 60% synthetic latex, because a blend is best as it creates the most consistent and comfortable product. Is this true or should you only have natural latex.


I tend to avoid "best and worst" when making comparisons between latex because each person may have their own reasons for preferring one over another but the blend is more consistent, a little more durable (in softer ILD's especially) and a little more pressure relieving than the all natural as well as less costly. I think it would probably be fair to say that for most (but not all) people the blended Talalay would be better value than the all natural Talalay. with dunlop it's the other way around. There is much more information about the different types of latex in this article and in post #6 here .

I also wanted to ask you for some suggestions as to what layers we should have in the mattress. I am 5'1 125 pounds and my husband is 5'7 195 pounds


This is probably among the most commonly asked questions on the forum but unfortunately there is no "theory at a distance" or formula that can translate someone's body type and sleeping style and turn it into the "best" mattress design out of the thousands of designs that are possible. There is some fairly detailed information in the mattresses section that can give some insights into how different types of layering and designs be used to can match different body types, sleeping styles, and preferences but these are generic and not specific to any individual. The best way to know which mattress is "best" for you is either to test as objectively as possible for PPP (Pressure relief, Posture and alignment, and Personal preferences) hopefully with the help of some good local guidance or if you are working with an online manufacturer to give them good feedback on your local testing results so they can suggest which of their mattresses they believe would have the best chance of matching what you need and prefer based on their knowledge and experience and the 'averages" of their customers that are similar to you. There are too many variables and personal preferences involved and there are usually many different layering combinations that can work equally well for people even though they may have differences in their performance and 'feel'.

I was thinking of getting the latex and memory foam combination, which I think was suggested here as the best thing to do for people interested in a foam mattress


I would be very wary of any advice that suggested that there is a "better or worse" choice concerning something that is strictly a matter of personal preference. While a memory foam and latex combination can feel and perform very well for people who like it (and there are some combinations like this that I personally like as well although it's still not my first choice) ... there would also be many others who didn't like it at all.

As far as the latex would the talalay or the Dunlop work best?


As you will read in the previous links ... this is another choice that is strictly a matter of personal preference and one isn't any better than another. They are just different. It's like asking what is the best type of apple.

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The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 17 Feb 2013 04:56 #488

Hey Phoenix,

My wife and I found a deal where we can get the iComfort Prodigy or Renewal Refined King with the adjustable frame for 1800. Do you still think that it wouldn't be worth getting it at that price?

Matt

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The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 17 Feb 2013 15:00 #489

Hi Matchmee,

The Motion Perfect adjustable bed sells for more than that by itself so if its new and warranty covered and one of the mattresses works for you in terms of PPP (Pressure relief, Posture and alignment, and Personal preferences) then it certainly sounds like great value to me.

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The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 19 Feb 2013 01:22 #490

Hey Phoenix,

We went out and checked some of the local manufactures here in Atlanta that were suggested. After trying the memory foam and latex mattresses my husband and I could not agree on one. He likes the feel of the memory foam, and although I do too I would prefer to get the latex because of its durability. The latex feels good it just doesn't have that cradling "sleep in" feeling that you get from memory foam which we both love, but I don't think we should sacrifice feel for durability/resiliency, or should we. After reading some of the information on here, I thought you could get a foam mattress with latex in it, but when we asked about getting a mattress like that we were told that you cannot get a foam mattress with latex, you either get a latex mattress or a foam mattress. They explained that combining the two would cause their properties to cancel out per say and you would not get the benefits for which they are intended for. They also said that you would only combine them in the comfort layers when using innersprings as the core not foam as the support layer. Is this true or can you have memory foam and latex in the comfort layers of a foam mattress. As always thanks again for all your info and help.

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