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Mattress comfort layers - latex

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06 Mar 2019 18:13 #61 by lotus14
Sorry about the etiquette breach - link removed.

Thanks for the info about Mayer's. Their latex is probably good quality but just spoke to them and they offer no warranty for their toppers. I've seen a few other suppliers with little to no warranty as well.

Foamorder offers a 15 yr warranty @ 1/2" indentation. According to Sensei, it's 'possible' their dunlop is that soft, but I don't want to make an expensive mistake if it isn't.

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06 Mar 2019 18:42 #62 by Alex13
Hello,
I've researched mattresses quite a bit lately and am about to return a medium novosbed mattress because it is way too firm for me and too hot as well. I'm 5'9" and about 145 lb.

There's a mattress manufacturing store near where I live that assembles custom mattresses. After trying out all the materials they have, I decided to have them build a foam mattress with latex comfort layers for me which I tried and found quite comfortable. The details are: 5 inches of 2.2 lb medium polyfoam as a base, 2 inches of 28 ILD Talalay latex as a transition layer and 2 inches of 19 ILD Talalay latex as the final comfort layer (for a total of 9inches). Each latex layer is wrapped in some mesh that i believe is cotton and the whole mattress is inside a zippered organic cotton encasement. What's also interesting is that the base is actually cut in 3 pieces so you can turn and swap them (see picture in attachment) for a more even wear (and maybe better durability). The mattress cost me 1700$ CAD taxes in which would be a bit over 1200$ USD. I will receive it in about 2 weeks.

I found it very comfortable when I tried it as I was floating on those 4 inches of latex, but if I were to sit on the bed or put my weight on a smaller area, I would reach the bottom of the latex and feel the very firm polyfoam base which I was afraid might be a concern, but it was still the most comfortable I tried and I figured it doesn't matter as long as my weight is distributed along my whole body which is always the case when I'm sleeping.

I only wanted to share this and see what others think about this mattress to see if I made a correct choice and if there's anything I should be concerned about. I still haven't received it so I'm a bit worried and hoping I'll enjoy the choice I made because it cost quite a lot and I'll have to live with it for a while.

Thank you!
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07 Mar 2019 12:45 #63 by Sensei
Hi Alex13,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :).

Congratulations, and well done trying out the mattresses and materials at a local factory direct location. It helps a lot. I will add some comments, but you are the only one that will know if this is the right feel for you.

About the construction:

5 inches of 2.2 lb medium polyfoam as a base, 2 inches of 28 ILD Talalay latex as a transition layer and 2 inches of 19 ILD Talalay latex as the final comfort layer (for a total of 9inches). Each latex layer is wrapped in some mesh that i believe is cotton and the whole mattress is inside a zippered organic cotton encasement. What's also interesting is that the base is actually cut in 3 pieces so you can turn and swap them (see picture in attachment) for a more even wear (and maybe better durability)



First off you are getting high-quality materials. Base core 2.2lb density....excellent well above TMU minimum recommendations, and the 2" 28 Talalay and 2" 19ILD Talalay, generally speaking, I can't think of a better combination of 4" that one could choose. I love that they have the Talalay in individually wrapped cotton mesh-like fabric, very professional.

When one sits on a mattress, at no time is any ever putting more pressure at one point then sitting down. It's very common to reach a "bottom" on this type of construction, and with your BMI being so low, you won't have an issue with bottoming out. I am not saying this means its perfect for you, you have to decide that but the 4" of Talalay is a very durable comfort layer combination.

With the zippered cover, I am sure you will have the opportunity to swap them if you needed to, not saying it's free, you have to discuss with the store, but it allows you options if you need to adjust it a bit. And I love that unique way they configure the base core foam so one can turn it, rotate it, etc for better longevity. Very Interesting.

I am excited to see how it works out but feel confident that the materials used are very good, so please let us know when you have slept on it for a while. Remember to give it some time, your body has to adjust to a new feel also.

Thank you so much for the post and sleep better soon!!!

Sensei

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07 Mar 2019 15:26 - 07 Mar 2019 15:27 #64 by Q8canuck
Hello Alex13,
We are also looking for a latex supplier who will build a multi level split mattress for us. You mentioned Cdn $ and a supplier near you....where/who is this supplier? We’re in Alberta....
Thanks.
Last edit: 07 Mar 2019 15:27 by Q8canuck.

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07 Mar 2019 15:43 #65 by Jill71rdh
I second Mayers Bedding. Robert really helped me out deciding what topper I should get as well. I just ordered one after my post yesterday. I asked if they had any current coupon codes and they didn't but he offered to split the cost of a return if the topper didn't work out for me.

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08 Mar 2019 15:27 #66 by lotus14
I'm planning to use DIY Bedding's cotton knit encasement for my build.

Considering putting a thin, breathable 360 degree encasement over that to slow oxidation/drying out. Mold could be a problem of course if the encasement isn't breathable enough. Anyone have experience with this?

Yes, I know the the encasement can be lined with wool, but I'm not sure that would help as much with oxidation/drying out, though obviously mold shouldn't be an issue.

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08 Mar 2019 15:57 - 08 Mar 2019 16:04 #67 by Alex13
Hey Sensei,

thank you very much for the quick reply and detailed review of all the elements included in my post! It's not common for me to receive an answer that addresses all of the points included in my initial message.

It's really reassuring to get the approval from an expert regarding the components I carefully selected and the construction overall. The waiting period before receiving the actual mattress can be quite worrisome when you're not certain about the choices made especially considering I paid a much higher price than I was planning to spend on a mattress (I'm replacing a 10 years old deformed spring mattress I purchased for barely 300$ CAD before going back to school). There's also the fact I needed to rely on the information provided by the salesperson who sadly knew less about materials properties than I did despite working there for 20+ years.

I can't wait to sleep on my new mattress.

Thanks again, I'll come by and let you know my thoughts once I've slept on it for a while (I should receive it either next Friday or the one after).

Regards,

Alex

*EDIT* Any thoughts about the price ? Is it normal to pay 555$ CAD taxes in or about 400$ USD for each 2" latex layer of latex? I know it's an expensive material, but I thought it was quite alot.
Last edit: 08 Mar 2019 16:04 by Alex13. Reason: Forgot to ask something

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08 Mar 2019 16:07 #68 by Alex13
Hey Q8canuck,

I discovered this small mattress manufacturer named Matelas Prestige just next to the plant where I work nearby Montreal, Quebec. It only has one location and I don't know how common this type of place is.

Good luck finding a supplier!

Regards,

Alex

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08 Mar 2019 21:13 #69 by Q8canuck
Thanks for your reply...I hope I can find something closer to home.

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09 Mar 2019 17:08 #70 by Sensei
Hi Alex13,

Thank you for those kind words, and you are very welcome.

When I first read your post, and you mentioned $1200 USD, my initial thought was that sounded about right, and I did not think it was too high, or out of proportion. For example, a 19ild Queen size 2" Talalay topper will regularly cost $350-$400 even with many online retailers, who have a better opportunity to sell at lower prices. The 28ILD being denser will be more expensive. Plus there are added costs shipping into CA from US, so I think you are ok.

Good luck, and hopefully better sleep soon. Thanks again.

Sensei

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