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Brooklyn Bedding vs. Dreamfoam Bedding 25 May 2013 20:15 #1

I know is the same Company, but I would like to find a Dreamfoam equivalent to BB's Bamboo Bliss

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Brooklyn Bedding vs. Dreamfoam Bedding 26 May 2013 13:06 #2

Hi gat13,

They would be the best source for this type of information because they know their mattresses and how they will compare to each other better than anyone else.

My "guess" is that the closest "approximation" would probably be the Dreamfoam Eurotop with the same comfort choice although the cover and quilting materials are different (the quilting in the Bamboo Bliss uses different materials including wool which could change how it felt to some degree in the same comfort choice). Like the Bamboo Bliss it also has exchange options (although they are more costly and less generous than the exchange options for the Brooklyn Bedding mattresses).

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Brooklyn Bedding vs. Dreamfoam Bedding 28 May 2013 09:28 #3

Just got off the phone with BB actually. He indicated the differences between Dreamfoam and what you'll find on their BB site are:

1) Dreamfoam will not have the 1" wool layer. He assured me this wont contribute to any "feel" difference in the mattress (unlike what you say above, Phoenix), it's just a fire retardant. From the BB website, it doesn't appear that the base "Cotton" models have the wool layer actually.

2) Dreamfoam uses a 1.5lb foam core. BB uses a 2.17 foam core. The exception is the Cotton line of BB, which uses the lower quality foam as well.

And while he didn't say this, I think there's a higher peace of mind guarantee with BB, as they'll swap out your comfort layers for free in the 120 day period, which you cant do with Dreamfoam. And the return policy is much better.

Honestly... I'm not sure the above warrants the $150 price difference (comparing King Dreamfoam @ $749 to King Cotton Camilla @ $899). If you are going to upgrade to the Bamboo line, then you're at least getting #1 and #2 above. But is even that worth it? 1" of flame retardant material and a 0.67 higher density base foam jumps the price up to $1,199 (a $450 difference). I'm not so sure.

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Brooklyn Bedding vs. Dreamfoam Bedding 29 May 2013 12:19 #4

Hi JDMWDC,

1) Dreamfoam will not have the 1" wool layer. He assured me this wont contribute to any "feel" difference in the mattress (unlike what you say above, Phoenix), it's just a fire retardant. From the BB website, it doesn't appear that the base "Cotton" models have the wool layer actually.


Feel can be very subjective and some people may feel the difference and some may not. The compressed wool will slightly reduce the amount of compression in the layers below it while the foam quilting can add to the softness of the comfort layers. Some people can "feel" even the smallest differences between two mattresses while for others it takes a much larger difference for them to notice. Wool will also make a difference in ventilation and temperature control.

And while he didn't say this, I think there's a higher peace of mind guarantee with BB, as they'll swap out your comfort layers for free in the 120 day period, which you cant do with Dreamfoam. And the return policy is much better.


I certainly agree that an exchange or return policy can be an important part of the value of a mattress. the Amazon Eurotop also has a layer exchange policy but it's not as liberal as the exchange policy with the BB mattresses that have it.

Honestly... I'm not sure the above warrants the $150 price difference (comparing King Dreamfoam @ $749 to King Cotton Camilla @ $899). If you are going to upgrade to the Bamboo line, then you're at least getting #1 and #2 above. But is even that worth it? 1" of flame retardant material and a 0.67 higher density base foam jumps the price up to $1,199 (a $450 difference). I'm not so sure.


All of these choices would be very similar in overall "value" (which is typical of the mattresses made by the same manufacturer) but the only way to make " final choices " is to look at all the differences and decide on which of the tradeoffs involved would be most important to you based on your own personal value equation .

Just a few thoughts to consider while you are making final choices ...

2.17 lb polyfoam is a higher quality and more durable material than 1.5 lb polyfoam.

I agree that the ability to exchange a layer and change your comfort level can be particularly valuable in an online purchase where you don't have the chance to test the mattress first for those who are not completely confident in the suitability of their comfort choice or are less "risk tolerant".

Wool is a more costly material in a quilting layer than polyfoam and also has real benefits that may be important for some people in terms of humidity and temperature control.

Again ... all of these have roughly equivalent "value" but the differences between them may make one a more suitable choice than another for a particular person based on their individual criteria.

Phoenix
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Brooklyn Bedding vs. Dreamfoam Bedding 29 May 2013 15:40 #5

I understand the personal value equation comes into play. I think for me personally, I'm willing to spend the money if it's going to be worth it until I hit the budget ceiling. Assuming the Aloe and Total Latex lines are above budget, my choices are:

Cotton Camilla - $899 ($845 after 5% discount)
Bamboo Bliss - $1,199 (1,139 after 5% discount)
Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams - $749
Dreamfoam UD w/ Eurotop - $999

Removing any worry about buying online or return policy, and assuming the ILD available is what I want for all of them, is there any real reason why any of the above are vastly different than the others? I know that the density of the foam core is better in the Bamboo, as you said Phoenix, but I guess I'm curious. I don't mind spending the $450, but it's silly to throw that money away on an extremely marginal difference in quality. It's not like I'm thinking about going from a hybrid to total latex or something, these seem like tiny differences, but the price tags make me second guess if I'm really missing something.

Obviously, if I decide that being able to edit my choice is necessary, I'd probably go Camilla since it's free and unlimited (and cheaper than the Dream with Euro). Hmm...

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Brooklyn Bedding vs. Dreamfoam Bedding 29 May 2013 15:48 #6

Phoenix,

I just got contacted by somebody looking at the Ultimate Dreams mattress by Dreamfoam Bedding. It looks like they've changed the specifications on it since I purchased mine from over a year ago. When I purchased mine the base foam was listed at 2.35 if I remember right. It seems they've since changed their base foam but are still keeping all the reviews from a different configuration. My questions are this:

1. Did Dreamfoam change their configuration on this mattress that you know of?
2. If they've changed their product, they should remove the reviews that are for a different product... shouldn't they?

I'd hate to recommend this mattress to somebody if it's really different from the one I purchased.

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Brooklyn Bedding vs. Dreamfoam Bedding 29 May 2013 17:26 #7

Coventry wrote: Phoenix,

I just got contacted by somebody looking at the Ultimate Dreams mattress by Dreamfoam Bedding. It looks like they've changed the specifications on it since I purchased mine from over a year ago. When I purchased mine the base foam was listed at 2.35 if I remember right. It seems they've since changed their base foam but are still keeping all the reviews from a different configuration. My questions are this:

1. Did Dreamfoam change their configuration on this mattress that you know of?
2. If they've changed their product, they should remove the reviews that are for a different product... shouldn't they?

I'd hate to recommend this mattress to somebody if it's really different from the one I purchased.


Coventry,

Small world! That was me who asked :) I actually put in a call to Dreamfoam after you replied to get to the bottom of it. Your reply got me thinking though... I wonder how many comments were BEFORE they downgraded the quality of the materials. Not sure. I'm going to investigate when they call me back, will post here.

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Brooklyn Bedding vs. Dreamfoam Bedding 29 May 2013 18:08 #8

Phoenix, thanks for your advice. I just purchased a 10" Total Latex from Brooklyn. It was a little more than I originally budgeted, but I needed a new mattress badly, and I consider that good sleep is vital for your health. Also, thanks to Chuck for his help

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Brooklyn Bedding vs. Dreamfoam Bedding 29 May 2013 18:16 #9

Excellent! Please post back here when you find out more please. If they HAVE changed this product where where the core elements are that different, I will either need to remove or edit my original review on Amazon. It bothers me a bit and I feel it's a bit disingenuous to keep up reviews when the product has changed drastically. For mattresses, I feel a large change in the poundage of base foam IS a substantial change, since this was one of my 'decision makers' or 'value judgements' when I purchased mine originally.

Thank you for notifying me about this issue and I hope to hear back from you soon with more information. :)

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Brooklyn Bedding vs. Dreamfoam Bedding 29 May 2013 22:34 #10

Hi JDMWDC,

Once you are down to final choices and you know all the pros and cons of each then it's time for me to step out of the way so you can decide which is the best value for you and which mattress is the best fit for your own criteria. For example if the ability to exchange a layer isn't an important issue for you and you are comfortable with the risk involved in buying a mattress where this isn't possible then that feature of the purchase wouldn't have "value" to you even though it may be the most important reason that someone else chooses it. the same thing would hold true for having wool in the comfort layer.

You will find that in most cases the "value" of a manufacturer's line is comparable across their lineup (except that margins are usually a little higher in their higher budget mattresses) so the differences between them would be based more on the pros and cons of each design and the differences in materials and components which are most important to each person. Any of them would generally be "worth the extra price" but that's different from whether any of the options available as you go up the line would be "worth it" to you.

Phoenix
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