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Disappointed in St Dormier mattress cover

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09 Feb 2014 13:01 #21 by Phoenix
Hi dn,

Nice catch :)

I guess that solves the mystery of the amount of wool they use.

Phoenix

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09 Feb 2014 14:57 #22 by CentralPA
After considering on using an old mattress protector we had ~2 years old with our new SleepEZ 10,000, my wife and I have decided to upgrade the mattress protector as well. After researching a bunch of different protectors we decided on the St Dormier mattress cover for the wool and cotton combination to help us get the most out of our latex bed.

I am hoping we find this fits our PPP for our new mattress.

Thanks all for your comments regarding the St Dormier.

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10 Mar 2019 18:18 #23 by Demeter
I have a new memory foam mattress that sleeps very hot in comparison to my old inner spring mattress and I'm trying a St Dormier pad to see if it helps regulate temperature. I'm a small side sleeper so have a soft mattress & soft topper but still find it a little hard on the shoulders. Like the OP I was surprised to see how thin this pad is when it arrived. However I love the feel of it and I think it does provide a thermal layer that helps to wick heat away during the night. I also love how I can still feel the softness of the mattress under it but somehow it has taken away the slight rubbery feel of the foam. I guess the body loves natural products. Because it's so light and stretchy though it doesn't introduce any tautness at all but just a little more cozy softness. The tips that Phoenix gave for side sleepers (pillow behind back and one under free arm) sound great.....will try tonight!

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12 Mar 2019 16:51 #24 by Phoenix
Hi Demeter,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :)!

Congrats on the St Dormier pad!

Yes, generally the issue of the sleeping microclimate on a mattress is a complex one. Heat and the inability to reposition, both tend to be characteristics of memory foam, especially when compared to previously sleeping on an innerspring mattress. Generally, Innerspring mattresses, do a good job of sleeping cool since they have less foam to trap heat in the mattress, but even so, some innerspring mattresses still end up sleeping hot depending on the very top layer of foam.

I am glad that you are enjoying new pad mattress combo and that it is just right, for you to still feel the softness of the mattress, You are correct that layers that are closer to the top sleeping surface will have the greatest impact upon comfort and sleeping temperature (including your mattress pad, sheets, and linen). There is more about the many variables that can affect the sleeping temperature of a mattress or sleeping system in post #2 here .

Thank you for mentioning the pillow sleep tips for side sleepers for any other consumer members that are reading your post. Pillows are a very personal choice and different people will have very different pillow preferences or different opinions about what they perceive as firm and soft or the general type of pillow that "feels" good to them but some of the information in the pillow thread here and the posts it links to can help you choose a pillow that is the best "match" for you and the mattress you are sleeping on.

Thank you again, and let us know how it works out in the long term!

Phoenix

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08 Nov 2019 07:02 - 08 Nov 2019 18:04 #25 by ClareMe
I, too, am disappointed in the St. Dormier mattress protector. I bought it based on the many reviews on this site stating how thin it is and how it would not interfere with the feel of the mattress. I wanted something made of natural fibres and was o.k. with water resistance rather than waterproofing, so it seemed like a logical choice.

The protector is well made and flexible/stretchy. Beanbag notes that it doesn't contain much wool; I can't comment on that, but the entire protector (wool/cotton combined) is VERY puffy -- I measured mine and it is more than 1/2” thick. That's not what I would consider thin by any stretch of the imagination! My membrane protector, by comparison, is only 1/8" thick, including the cotton terry top.

My mattress, thankfully, is wonderful as is, but, adding this protector significantly affected the feel. The additional padding transformed my plush mattress to a much firmer surface, so much so, that I could no longer lay comfortably on my side without feeling pressure. I would consider it a mattress PAD rather than a protector.

Additionally, this expensive protector cannot be returned -- something I neglected to check before ordering online. I've now learned my lesson on that front!

I'll be continuing to look for something thinner and made of natural fibers; perhaps a wool puddle pad? All the ones I've seen online are 1/4" thick and supposedly soft so perhaps would not add that extra bit of firmness that alters the surface feel. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has used one regarding that.
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24 Jan 2020 14:28 #26 by Talalay
I'll echo your comments here, the St. Dormier absolutely has an effect on the feel of the mattress. I use it on a latex hybrid mattress and for sure it feels firmer with the St. Dormier on, like 10% firmer. It also makes a noise, like a slight rustling sound. I imagine that will go away over time but that was the first thing I noticed when I laid down sideways. That said, it's a fine product. It's well made and it also keeps the fitted sheet in place better than other mattress protectors. Something about the way the material grabs is perfect for the application.

I also bought a CozyPure organic cotton stretch knit mattress protector and it's really nice too. It has zero effect on the conforming ability of the latex and it is really comfortable. I use it more often than not. I like the fact that I can switch out the CozyPure with the St. Dormier if I feel like firming up the mattress a touch or just having a different feel for a while. Sometimes it's nice to change things up. I don't know if I would go to the extent to say the St. Dormier is a pad and not a protector but I think over time once it's broken in more it will be more like what you and I were expecting.

I didn't want to be $500 into mattress protectors but I'm glad I pulled the trigger on that cause the ability to adjust the feel of the mattress according to my preference is pretty great.

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26 Jan 2020 10:50 #27 by Sensei
Hey Talalay,

Welcome to the TMU Forum ! Like your user name, guessing you're a "Talalay" fan ;)?

I also bought a CozyPure organic cotton stretch knit mattress protector and it's really nice too. It has zero effect on the conforming ability of the latex and it is really comfortable. I use it more often than not. I like the fact that I can switch out the CozyPure with the St. Dormier if I feel like firming up the mattress a touch or just having a different feel for a while…I didn't want to be $500 into mattress protectors but I'm glad I pulled the trigger on that cause the ability to adjust the feel of the mattress according to my preference is pretty great.


Congrats on your CozyPure mattress protector purchase, thanks for the kind words and for sharing your experience :cheer: ! Happy to hear you enjoy its "feel" and that it provides a simple solution for when you want a bit of change in the comfort of your mattress firmness. Thanks too for your support of our trusted member program , these manufacturers/ retailers offer superior products backed by thoughtful return/ exchange policies and excellent product support.

Hey @ClareMe, did you ever find a mattress protector solution since your last check-in?

Cheers,
Sensei

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26 Jan 2020 14:59 #28 by The Toddler

Talalay wrote: I also bought a CozyPure organic cotton stretch knit mattress protector and it's really nice too. It has zero effect on the conforming ability of the latex and it is really comfortable.

Which one did you get? The Cozypure website shows a Pebble Pique Organic Cotton Stretch Knit Mattress Protector and a DeVINE Organic Cotton Stretch-Knit Mattress Protector .

Also, do you put the protector directly on top of the latex? I've been putting my St. Dormeir directly on my latex topper because I found that the topper covers I tried added too much firmness when also covered with the St. Dormeir and my fitted sheet.

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03 Feb 2020 17:32 #29 by Talalay
I got the pebble pique one. I don't have a latex topper, I have a latex hybrid mattress from San Diego Mattress Makers so I put it over the entire mattress like one normally would. On a 13" tall cal king, after washing and drying it on delicate, it fits just fine. If the mattress were 3 or 4 inches taller because of a topper I think it would still fit.

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03 Feb 2020 17:35 #30 by Talalay
Thanks, I was lurking in this forum reading posts when I bought the mattress so unfortunately I wasn't able to take advantage of the program (since I wasn't a member or aware of the discount) but the wealth if info here helped me find a great mattress locally at San Diego Mattress Makers which is head and shoulders better than mattresses at big box stores sold for double the price.

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