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Body impressions are normal????? 26 Apr 2014 20:36 #1

mattress.net says this regarding Talalay Latex Matresses: Body depressions are normal and are not considered structural failure unless they exceed 1”

spindlemattress.com says this regarding Talalay Latex Mattresses: Body impressions, imprints or indentations in the mattress do not indicate a structural weakness or breakdown of the innerspring unit. Rather, imprints are a normal and natural occurrence of the mattress filling materials and foam, and are an indication that the upholstery layers are conforming to each person’s individual weight and body contours and characteristics. Body impressions will be more noticeable on King and Queen size. This body impression is unavoidable and is not an indication of any structural failure of your new mattress.

What the heck???? I'm going to spend some serious money and I'm going to have body impressions in my mattress after a while????? I hate body impressions in a mattress. This is the reason I am looking for a new mattress. I thought latex was the best. Body impressions are normal is not making me too comfortable with that assertion.

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Body impressions are normal????? 26 Apr 2014 20:52 #2

Hi John Smith,

What the heck???? I'm going to spend some serious money and I'm going to have body impressions in my mattress after a while????? I hate body impressions in a mattress. This is the reason I am looking for a new mattress. I thought latex was the best. Body impressions are normal is not making me too comfortable with that assertion.


All soft materials will soften and break down over time so minimal body impressions that don't affect comfort or support are certainly normal but this is different from the degree of softening or breakdown that would be considered to be a defect in the material. Latex is the most durable of all the foam materials and it will soften and break down less and more slowly and maintain its original properties longer than other types of foam but no material that is suitable for use in a mattress is immune from some degree of softening or breakdown over time. There is more in post #4 here about the many factors that can affect the durability and useful life of a mattress relative to each person.

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Body impressions are normal????? 26 Apr 2014 22:46 #3

Phoenix wrote: Hi John Smith,

What the heck???? I'm going to spend some serious money and I'm going to have body impressions in my mattress after a while????? I hate body impressions in a mattress. This is the reason I am looking for a new mattress. I thought latex was the best. Body impressions are normal is not making me too comfortable with that assertion.


All soft materials will soften and break down over time so minimal body impressions that don't affect comfort or support are certainly normal but this is different from the degree of softening or breakdown that would be considered to be a defect in the material. Latex is the most durable of all the foam materials and it will soften and break down less and more slowly and maintain its original properties longer than other types of foam but no material that is suitable for use in a mattress is immune from some degree of softening or breakdown over time. There is more in post #4 here about the many factors that can affect the durability and useful life of a mattress relative to each person.

Phoenix


I have a mattress that I have owned for 28 years. Queen size Sealy Posture Pedic. Conventional inner spring mattress. My wife and I used it for over twenty years. You want to know something? Zero body impressions. None. I swear on a stack of bibles 10 miles high. That Sealy mattress feels the same as the day we bought it. We haven't used it much since we bought the new Kingsized bed but back in the old days apparently mattresses were built to last. Having to accept the inevitability of body impressions in a latex mattress costing several thousand dollars seems a bit risky. If only I could find an innerspring mattress of superb quality without some crazy high "plush" pillow top. Those pillow tops always get terrible body impressions. It's almost as if the companies build them to die early so you have to buy mattresses more frequently. I'm starting to rethink things here. I might be better off with an innerspring mattress if I can find one of superb quality. Any recommendations or advice on this would be more than welcome.

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Body impressions are normal????? 26 Apr 2014 23:16 #4

Hi John Smith,

I have a mattress that I have owned for 28 years. Queen size Sealy Posture Pedic. Conventional inner spring mattress. My wife and I used it for over twenty years. You want to know something? Zero body impressions. None. I swear on a stack of bibles 10 miles high. That Sealy mattress feels the same as the day we bought it. We haven't used it much since we bought the new Kingsized bed but back in the old days apparently mattresses were built to last.


You're certainly right about this and mattresses that were made that long ago tended to use higher quality materials (in the comfort layers especially) than the mainstream mattresses made today (see post #3 here ). I can also tell you though that if you tested the materials in your mattress for ILD (firmness/softness) that the foams would have lost some of it's height and firmness since you purchased it even if the foam doesn't have any visible impressions. If you were to open up the mattress you would probably also discover that the foam inside had some minimal compression but not enough to make any meaningful difference in comfort or support. If your mattress was two sided (which were also the norm at that time) then if you flipped the mattress on occasion it would also even out any impressions and allow the side that wasn't in use to recover and even though it would still be gradually softening over time, it would soften more evenly over the entire surface so it wouldn't be as visible.

Good quality latex will be similar. While there may be some slight impressions (that you may or may not notice) ... if you choose a latex mattress that is a suitable match for you in terms of PPP and isn't too soft then it will last you for many years. You can see a video here of a latex mattress that was in use for almost 50 years (although most people wouldn't keep any mattress for nearly that long because their own needs and preferences would also change over time and 50 years for any mattress isn't a realistic expectation) and both blended Talalay and 100% natural Dunlop have a long history of lasting decades (see post #9 here ).

While it isn't possible or realistic to expect any foam material to maintain it's original specs indefinitely or for no changes to occur over time (this isn't scientifically possible and never has been) ... there are still good quality mattresses (such as latex) whose useful lifetime can realistically be measured in decades.

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Body impressions are normal????? 26 Apr 2014 23:51 #5

An encouraging response. I'm on the road to buying a new Kingsized mattress. This forum and website have helped me more than anything. I will be asking more questions on these issues. I have many. Great thanks to you Phoenix.

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Body impressions are normal????? 27 Apr 2014 05:22 #6

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John Smith wrote:

Phoenix wrote: I have a mattress that I have owned for 28 years. Queen size Sealy Posture Pedic. Conventional inner spring mattress. My wife and I used it for over twenty years. You want to know something? Zero body impressions. None. I swear on a stack of bibles 10 miles high. That Sealy mattress feels the same as the day we bought it.


Same with the queen Simmons Beautyrest I just sold with my old bedroom suite. it was at least 25 years old and with the exception of a few lose stitiches, it was as you said, 0 impressions, in great shape. Course I flipped and rotated it often too. Apparently they don't make them like they used to.

Wife and I slept on a 3 year old Sealy a while back at a friend's house. Most comfortable mattress ever been on with the exception of a Westin hotel mattress. It was like "sleeping on a cloud". Must be so good cause it's made in Texas! :lol:

I almost pulled the trigger on this one with a plan to add a plush talalay topper to it. Didn't because of distance and logistics issues. I think it would be a good bet based on research of the company, owner, materials, etc. It's flippable too and the price is right. 5% off if you mention this site.
www.themattressfactory.com/MattressesBeds/Models/Elegance.aspx

Another nice convenience I like is the inclusion of handles on the Elegance. Why in the heck aren't folks including handles anymore! Ever tried to grip a queen or king mattress by it's sides! :huh:

This Wednesday I expect delivery of a new Sealy Posturepedic queen mattress for the guest bedroom and have a 2" polyfoam topper ready for it. Would never consider it for me and my wife, but for a bed that won't be slept on but say....10 times a year, $599 shipped to your door, white glove service with placement on top of your foundation, it's a no brainer. ;) So far, the service of U.S. Mattress has been excellent and they are rated at the top by Resellers.com.
www.us-mattress.com/sealy-pp-santa-paula-plush-king.html?gdftrk=gdfV21650_a_7c91_a_7c8341_a_7csealy_d_pp_d_santa_d_paula_d_plush_d_king&gclid=CJSt94rTgL4CFVKIfgodl4oApg

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Body impressions are normal????? 27 Apr 2014 07:55 #7

You're correct about our old coil mattress. We did flip it. Great side handles too. Man I loved sleeping on that mattress.

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Body impressions are normal????? 27 Apr 2014 11:31 #8

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John Smith wrote: You're correct about our old coil mattress. We did flip it. Great side handles too. Man I loved sleeping on that mattress.


Can't stand it anymore. Who is that beautiful woman as your avatar? :)

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Body impressions are normal????? 28 Apr 2014 05:07 #9

Don't forget then whatever latex you buy IF the cover has wool in it (1" for example) the wool itself will eventually compress somewhat. I wouldn't consider than an impressions because you would notice that the latex (once you unzipped the cover) underneath will be as flat as a board.

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Body impressions are normal????? 28 Apr 2014 05:08 #10

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Mark in Texas wrote:

John Smith wrote: You're correct about our old coil mattress. We did flip it. Great side handles too. Man I loved sleeping on that mattress.


Can't stand it anymore. Who is that beautiful woman as your avatar? :)


I wondered the same but I think It's a stock photo. I've seen her before but I can't remember where.

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