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08 Aug 2019 12:36 #101 by jh101992
Hi there,

Thought I would respond to this as I believe this is a similar topic. I am 5'10 170 lbs mainly stomach but also side sleeper. I have had the same spring mattress for a number of years that is beginning to sag and have been using this site to look at my options. I am from Canada and looking for more of a budget mattress. After contact Douglas mattresses, they recommended since I am a stomach sleeper and most likely used to a firmer mattress, that the Brunswick mattress would most likely be a better fit as it is a combo spring/foam mattress and the douglas mattress would be too soft.

Here is the link: www.brunswickbed.ca/shop/brunswick-spring-mattress/

they look to be affiliated with Novosbed as well which I know used to be a trusted member here. The density specs on this bed are as follows:

The first layer of foam is 3/4" of a cooling gel foam that has a density of 1.8 lbs. Followed by a 1" layer of cooling gel foam with a density of 2.5". Then by a Memory foam that is 1.5lbs.

I was just wondering if you might be able to provide some thoughts on this mattress as well as any other budget mattresses that could be good to look into.

I have also been looking at the MFC HD and HR foam mattresses as well.

Thanks

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14 Oct 2019 16:26 #102 by Melsawy
Hi Everyone,

Im currently in the same boat as you guys and looking for a mattress around Toronto. It will be from my parents (58 and 51 years old). They are 160-200 lbs and are back sleepers. They prefer medium firm to firm (I know this is subjective).

They prefer to try something in person so that limits my options to in-store stuff. They tried a Sealy posturepedic signature plus at hudson bay and really liked it. However, I know people here say Sealy dont use durable foam etc so Ive been trying to find an equivalent to this mattress in the same price range (900-1200 CAD$). Ive been looking at the hybrid hamuq but cant find alot of information online.

Are there any brands (hybrids) that are in this price range and with a similar firmness to the sealy I mentioned?

Also one thing that is bothering me in addition to sealy not being the best quality is that specific line (signature plus) seems to be discontinued since 2011. Can it be that hudson bay is getting specific models made for them?

Thank you
Moustafa

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16 Oct 2019 13:42 - 16 Oct 2019 19:31 #103 by Sensei
Hey Moustafa,

I see you are doing your research, good job :) . Just curious, are your parents looking for a queen or king size bed?

Im currently in the same boat as you guys and looking for a mattress around Toronto. It will be from my parents (58 and 51 years old). They are 160-200 lbs and are back sleepers. They prefer medium firm to firm.


Are there any brands (hybrids) that are in this price range and with a similar firmness to the sealy I mentioned?


It would be hard for anyone to tell if two very distinct mattresses that are not "side-by-side" have similar firmness and feel as this would depend on the perception and preferences of each individual sleeper (no two people have similar experiences) Have you considered testing a CBH Wood Balancer Mattress ? They have a showroom in Toronto and from what you describe this would match most of your criteria. You can call them directly at this number (647) 390-8169.

Dormio also has a Toronto Showroom and may have something of interest. Their Legacy 8 line features 8" of Natural Dunlop Latex, Organic Wool and "My side/Your side" technology, offering each sleeper firm or softer support, also with two different firmness levels on top. The Legacy 8 line's pricing begins at $1498 CAD$, a little higher than the 900-1200 CAD$ range you mentioned, but TMU's Trusted Members offer a bit of a discount to consumer members of this site so they are worth checking into. Both CBH Wood Furniture and Dormio Organic Beds are Trusted Members of The Mattress Underground which means that you can take advantage of the discounts they are giving to TMU consumer-members for doing their research ;).

Ive been looking at the hybrid hamuq but can't find alot of information online.


I’m not finding specs on the hybrid hamuq but if you do, please share that on the Mattress Underground Forum and I’ll comment about those later?.

Mattresses are rarely produced in exact matches when models are changed within a lineup, and attempting to find something that is exactly the same is often a frustrating and futile exercise especially if you are trying to do that on your own. There is more information about the different ways that one mattress can "match" or "approximate" another one in post #9. Phoenix would tell you that every layer and component in a mattress (including the cover and any quilting materials) will affect the feel and performance of every other layer and component and the mattress "as a whole" so unless you are able to find another mattress that uses exactly the same type of materials, components, cover and quilting, layer thicknesses, layer firmnesses, and overall design (which would be fairly unlikely) then there really isn't a reliable way to match one mattress to another one in terms of "comfort", firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your Personal preferences) based on the specifications of the mattresses (even assuming that you can find out all the specifications you would need for both mattresses you are comparing in the first place). This being said you'd be on the right track by seeking guidance from an experienced manufacturer or retailer, who would be the ones to best approximate a mattress feel based on all the specs and your parents' personal needs and preferences you may provide.

Can it be that hudson bay is getting specific models made for them?


Hudson Bay carries at least 9 brands including Sealy. Even though they are a major mattress retailer in the area, it's highly unlikely that Sealy would have a special program exclusive to HB. Generally, the mattresses are the same except for different labels/ names and different covers, giving the illusion of their own program.

Thanks,
Sensei

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Last edit: 16 Oct 2019 19:31 by Phoenix. Reason: Providing contact phone

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27 Oct 2019 17:14 - 28 Oct 2019 08:42 #104 by Pie2
So great to find this site and thread!!

We are replacing a Stearns and Foster coil with foam that was purchased at The Bay. Definitely not doing that again!

We are looking for something on the medium/firm side. We have an existing bed so not looking for anything that requires a special system. Budget $1200-1600 (inc box spring/base).

We sleep combination of back, side, front. I am 5'3" 145 lb with upper and lower back pain, DH is 5,9" 180lb with some lower back pain.

We are thinking of latex or a latex hybrid. We do not want memory foam - DH runs hot and this has been an issue in the past.

We looked at DreamStar - not sure of quality. We have asked around and full latex is out of our price range - and likely too heavy for our bed.

And we prefer purchasing a mattress we can try first. Located in Toronto/North York.

Edit: we find being sure of PPP difficult as it takes time to really relax and get a feel for the mattress in 5 min intervals (where we are also changing positions),

Looking for suggestions on latex/hybrid with price tag that won’t keep us up at night ?

Thnx!




Last edit: 28 Oct 2019 08:42 by Pie2. Reason: Add information

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03 Nov 2019 12:55 #105 by Sensei
Hey Pie2,

Welcome to our Mattress Forum :) ! We hope you'll find the resources here useful for navigating your mattress shopping journey. Thanks for your kind words and question.

We are looking for something on the medium/firm side. We have an existing bed so not looking for anything that requires a special system. Budget $1200-1600 (inc box spring/base).


What size mattress do you currently have? The difference in pricing from queen to king size is around $500+, so that would be good to know given the price range you are shopping in.

We are thinking of latex or a latex hybrid. We do not want memory foam - DH runs hot and this has been an issue in the past.


Yes, latex would be a good choice in this case. Latex in general is considered the most breathable and "temperature neutral" of all the different types of foam materials but the firmness of a mattress and how much you sink into it can also affect sleeping temperature as well.

And we prefer purchasing a mattress we can try first. Located in Toronto/North York.


We always recommend our Trusted Members to consumers first; they are knowledgeable, responsive, and most importantly transparent with their business practices. CBH Wood Furniture , Dormio Organic Beds and SnugSleep all have showrooms in Toronto, all feature natural latex layers and may have something in your budget.

we find being sure of PPP difficult as it takes time to really relax and get a feel for the mattress in 5 min intervals (where we are also changing positions)


Since you're referencing "PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences)", I'm guessing you've checked out TMU's mattress shopping tutorial ? Phoenix does a thorough job guiding consumers through the complexities of buying a new mattress, a really good guide for understanding the research and purchase process.

Keep in touch and let us know how things go.

Cheers,
Sensei

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24 Nov 2019 21:32 #106 by Pie2
Update -

After some research (and checking out TMU resources) we have put a deposit on our CBH WOOD/Swiss Dreams Bed!

After meeting Hendrik and trying out the bed - we felt it was the best possible option. He did not rush us. Answered all of our questions. Overall was very easy to deal with.

Will update once we have tried it out at home.

Looking forward to better sleep.

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26 Nov 2019 10:39 #107 by Sensei
Thanks for the update Pie2 and for the positive feedback on TMU trusted member CBH Wood Furniture :) .

After some research (and checking out TMU resources) we have put a deposit on our CBH WOOD/Swiss Dreams Bed!...After meeting Hendrik and trying out the bed - we felt it was the best possible option. He did not rush us. Answered all of our questions. Overall was very easy to deal with.


Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on your new Swiss Dreams Bed after your initial sleep "adjustment period" has passed…and to you're having better sleep :) .

Thanks,
Sensei

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19 Dec 2019 19:13 - 19 Dec 2019 19:18 #108 by swilkes
What size mattress did you get? I'm curious what it feels like sleeping on or near the center of CBH beds either alone or with a partner. Was there that weird feeling of more firmness toward the center than the sides, thus making you want to roll away from the center?
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22 Dec 2019 13:27 - 23 Dec 2019 05:48 #109 by gobanana
Hi all, found my way here after being overwhelmed by conflicting information and opinions on Reddit. I'm looking to replace an old cheap mattress that might very well be contributing to my lower back problems.

I'm 5'10", 160 lbs and my wife is 5’6”, 110 lbs. We are both side sleepers and we both prefer a medium-firm to firm mattress with a plush top. I am hoping for a pocket coil latex hybrid. From my initial search on this website, it seems like the places in Toronto that come highly recommended only carry latex mattresses. I’m going to begin calling and visiting some places but I was wondering if anyone has had success finding a great pocket coil latex hybrid.

Some notes after checking out the websites on the first post…

Marshall: their most luxurious option is the Curated series, which are all tight tops mattresses. The Inspired series, which is their next tier, offers the pillow top which I’m after. Any thoughts on why they would go with a tight top for their high-end models? I'm also not really sure what to make of the materials that they mention (copper fibre, alpaca wool, eucapytus padding, GOTS-certified latex, soy foam).

Ideal Mattress: the Crescendo is a hybrid option but there’s a lack of information on the product page. It mentions “HR Natural latex body contouring perforated breathable foam” and I’m not really sure what that means.

Dream Time Mattress: several hybrid options but they’re pocket coil with foams rather than latex (I’m looking at the Emperor’s Dream Series and the Supreme Series). Please correct me if I’m wrong, but my impression is that latex is the better material.

Dreamstar: similar to Dream Time Mattress, they have some hybrid options but they’re pocket coil with foams.

Any help is appreciated!
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27 Dec 2019 14:33 #110 by Sensei
Hey gobanana,

Welcome to the TMU forum :) ! Thanks for your question and for your patience, apologies for the delayed response.

Hi all, found my way here after being overwhelmed by conflicting information and opinions on Reddit. I'm looking to replace an old cheap mattress that might very well be contributing to my lower back problems.


I'm 5'10", 160 lbs and my wife is 5’6”, 110 lbs. We are both side sleepers and we both prefer a medium-firm to firm mattress with a plush top. I am hoping for a pocket coil latex hybrid. From my initial search on this website, it seems like the places in Toronto that come highly recommended only carry latex mattresses. I’m going to begin calling and visiting some places but I was wondering if anyone has had success finding a great pocket coil latex hybrid.


Congrats on your progress, sounds like you are doing a good job of combining site searches with store visits, a sound way to begin your mattress comparison process. For other consumer subscribers who may be starting their own mattress selection research, I recommend a read-through of the Mattress Shopping Tutorial: How to look for and find the best mattress…For You , a detailed article covering the 5 steps involved in making the best quality/ value choice.

Marshall: their most luxurious option is the Curated series, which are all tight tops mattresses. The Inspired series, which is their next tier, offers the pillow top which I’m after. Any thoughts on why they would go with a tight top for their high-end models?


Generally speaking, tight top mattresses outsell pillow top models on the upper end of mattress offerings where customers prefer a "firmer" feel.

I'm also not really sure what to make of the materials that they mention (copper fibre, alpaca wool, eucapytus padding, GOTS-certified latex, soy foam).


The "materials" reference indicates a marketing story where the manufacturer is primarily using natural materials in the mattresses.

Ideal Mattress: the Crescendo is a hybrid option but there’s a lack of information on the product page.


The Ideal Mattress website states that they are a "direct-to-consumer mattress manufacturer specializing in custom made organic mattresses." While the site gives a breakdown of all their organic components and certifications, there is no specific component listing of the Crescendo hybrid, as you mentioned earlier. You may want to contact them directly, either through the factory or one of their showrooms for answers to those questions. If you do visit one of their showrooms, feel free to share your experience here, would be interesting to hear about that.

It mentions “HR Natural latex body contouring perforated breathable foam” and I’m not really sure what that means.


This means that there is a layer of latex, either Dunlop or Talalay, probably less than one inch in thickness that has been through a perforation process of having holes punched through the latex, thus making it more "breathable".

Dream Time Mattress: several hybrid options but they’re pocket coil with foams rather than latex (I’m looking at the Emperor’s Dream Series and the Supreme Series). Please correct me if I’m wrong, but my impression is that latex is the better material.


As Dream Time Mattress is factory direct, you can ask them about a latex build, if that's your preference. I'd prefer not to comment on whether latex is the "better" of the foam materials, as this is more of a "feel" issue, part of your individual "PPP/ Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences. Here are some thoughts Phoenix has regarding Latex Mattress Choices you may find useful, should you want to research that topic further.

Dreamstar: similar to Dream Time Mattress, they have some hybrid options but they’re pocket coil with foams.


Again, if you visit either Dreamstar or Dream Time's showrooms, please share your research findings with the TMU Forum, would be curious to hear about your experience. BTW, do you have any updates on your research thus far?

Thanks,
Sensei

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