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Anybody got a great innerspring bed? 21 May 2015 11:30 #1

Hi all,
I am revisiting innersprings as a possible option, and was just wondering if anyone has an innerspring bed that they love, and what brand it is? Just looking for some quality brand ideas--I've read about Saatva, and other ones online.

(By any chance has anyone purchased one of Royal Bedding's (Pelham, AL) innerspring beds? Am going back there today to check theirs out.)

Hope I don't bother you guys with all my questions--I am of course reading Phoenix's knowledgeable posts about what to look for in a quality innerspring mattress
Just curious!
thanks.

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Anybody got a great innerspring bed? 21 May 2015 13:29 #2

Hi Vicky,

I am revisiting innersprings as a possible option, and was just wondering if anyone has an innerspring bed that they love, and what brand it is? Just looking for some quality brand ideas--I've read about Saatva, and other ones online.


There are probably hundreds if not thousands of forum members that have successfully purchased a good quality/value innerspring mattress thaqt they are happy with over the years that the forum has been in existence in one version or another (there are thousands of different innerspring mattresses) and innerspring mattresses are by far the most common type of mattress purchase in the industry as a whole.

I would also be very cautious though about using other people's experiences or reviews on a mattress (either positive or negative) as a reliable source of information or guidance about how suitable or how durable a mattress may be for you and in many cases they can be more misleading than helpful because a mattress that would be a perfect choice for one person may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on either in terms of suitability or durability (see post #13 here ).

Brand shopping can also be among the most risky ways to choose a mattress because you are buying a specific mattress not the brand and all manufacturers have access to the same or similar components and materials. Most of the most heavily advertised and most commonly available brands that you would recognize are the ones I would avoid anyway (see the guidelines here ) and many of the better manufacturers are smaller and are only available locally or regionally. The name of the manufacturer on the label also won't tell you anything about whether a specific mattress is suitable for you in terms of PPP or whether there are any lower quality materials or weak links in the design. There is more about the risks of brand shopping in post #5 here and post #12 here ).

The most reliable way to know whether any innerspring mattress is a good match for you in terms of PPP (regardless of whether it would be suitable for anyone else) is with careful testing and your own personal experience using the testing guidelines in the tutorial post.

There is more information in post #2 here about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress that is the best "match" for you in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for that are involved in each of them.

There is also more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase in post #13 here which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability, durability, and value.

Phoenix
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Anybody got a great innerspring bed? 21 May 2015 14:00 #3

Phoenix,
I was asking Tom today about the type of foam in his innerspring mattresses and he said in the premium ones (2-sided) he uses 1.6 or 1.8 lb polyurethane foam. Didn't ask how many inches. Would this be acceptable? You had posted elsewhere "Never buy a mattress with more than around an inch or so of lower density polyfoam (less than 1.8 lbs or so in one sided or 1.5 lbs in two sided)" which sounds like this might be acceptable?
Just trying to weed out the "weak link".
thanks

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Anybody got a great innerspring bed? 21 May 2015 14:15 #4

Also, are there any innerspring mattresses that DON'T use any foams in their construction? I found Royal-Pedic, that makes all cotton mattresses, online. Not to advocate one brand over another, but surely there are still mattresses being made without foam?

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Anybody got a great innerspring bed? 21 May 2015 14:55 #5

Hi Vicky,

he uses 1.6 or 1.8 lb polyurethane foam. Didn't ask how many inches. Would this be acceptable? You had posted elsewhere "Never buy a mattress with more than around an inch or so of lower density polyfoam (less than 1.8 lbs or so in one sided or 1.5 lbs in two sided)" which sounds like this might be acceptable?
Just trying to weed out the "weak link".


As you can see in the quality/durability guidelines here ... their specs are above the minimums I would suggest and would be fine for a two sided mattress (where I would use 1.5 lb polyfoam as a minimum density guideline).

Also, are there any innerspring mattresses that DON'T use any foams in their construction? I found Royal-Pedic, that makes all cotton mattresses, online. Not to advocate one brand over another, but surely there are still mattresses being made without foam?


While they are certainly not as easy to find ... there are still some manufacturers that make mattresses that don't use any foam at all. Some of them are listed in post #4 here and you may also find some "old style" local manufacturers in some areas of the country that still make them as well.

Phoenix
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Anybody got a great innerspring bed? 21 May 2015 15:16 #6

Thanks Phoenix!
Sorry to be such a pain; thanks for answering so many questions. You know so much about all this! Wish you could go mattress shopping with me ;)
It will all work out eventually, I'm just trying to stay positive!!!

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Anybody got a great innerspring bed? 21 May 2015 15:25 #7

Hi Vicki,

Sorry to be such a pain


Good questions are never "a pain" and I'm happy to answer them (or at least the ones that I can) :)

Phoenix
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Anybody got a great innerspring bed? 22 May 2015 15:08 #8

I have a review in Royal-Pedic prescription mattress. I was going for a non-toxic route after 3 fails with poly foams and so called soy / bio based foams.. Also have one on Saatva.

It all depends on what your needs are.

I took a huge gamble since RP don't take returns........ But in the end, it worked out.

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Anybody got a great innerspring bed? 22 May 2015 15:31 #9

Hi Incognito,
thanks for your reply. Sorry you had such problems with the foam in various mattresses. Glad you found Royal-Pedic, even if it is on the stiff side. Read the Saatva info too, it really helps to hear someone explain about the different materials used.

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Anybody got a great innerspring bed? 22 May 2015 15:53 #10

Well,
I managed to visit 2 stores today, Royal Bedding again & Ensley Fairfield Mattress. They are sooo nice at Royal Bedding. I tried their innerspring selections, very nice mattresses that seem good quality (1.6 lb polyfoam on those comfort layers). Yet the "plushest" they had seemed a tad firm for my aching hips when on my side. Also when on my back, my lower back seemed a little raised, like I wasn't sinking down enough. Tried it with 3" latex topper, still not quite great. Guess it was a bit firm for my personal preference. I ended up gravitating back toward their Mountain Top Desire latex mattress, which their website describes thusly: "The Mountain Top Desire uses a 6" C3 firm latex core with 3" of C0 plush latex laminated to both sides." I know I had said I didn't love it the other day, but darned if it didn't feel amazing after trying the innersprings.

Tried the Pure LatexBliss Beautiful mattress at Ensley Fairfield, the softest version, and it was ok on my back, not super soft, not as comfy on sides. Tried an innerspring I'd never heard of, Legacy, the Crescent Moon plush model, 2-sided, and it was ok, still pretty firm to me but I would try it again. Nice lady that works there didn't know the material specs so I got online & emailed the company for all the foam info.. Hopefully will hear back next week.

So, back to just trying out and thinking. Don't want to rush into anything, because neither store offers refunds. Royal Bedding will however alter your latex mattress after you buy it and try it, (didn't ask how many times) adding latex or removing it to make softer or firmer. You can either get the mattress back to store yourself or they will charge a fee to pick it up and try to have it back that day, and they will charge for any foam they have to add.

I just don't want to get something not supportive enough because I'm afraid of the too firm. I know it's easier to soften a mattress w/topper than firm one up.

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