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20 Apr 2019 08:03 #241 by jamesd
Hi there, new member here,

Not sure this is the right place for this question, but I'm looking for a mattress for my two-year-old. The bed-frame isn't a bunk bed, but it has similar constraints to a bunk bed for mattress height. Maximum height I think would be safe would be 8 inch, but something shorter would be ideal. Preferably either Canadian or US made.

I like the idea of a memory foam bed-in-a-box mattress, but the options I've seen online haven't thrilled me... the ones "recommended" elsewhere online were the Lucid 5&6 inch or the Zinus 6 inch. Being dirt-cheap and manufactured in China makes me a little hesitant about these models.

I've also found a PolySleep Origin (made in Canada) and Novaform (made in US), both 8 inches tall. This is a little taller than I want, but if they're better quality then that's worth it for me.

Anyone have opinions on these models/manufacturers or any other mattress that might be better?


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20 Apr 2019 12:44 #242 by Sensei
Hey jamesd,

Welcome to the forum :).

Thanks for the post, I will start a new thread for kids beds, it's always a good conversation for people to get information about. Totally understandable about the height and 8" and below sounds about right.

My short answer to your general question is take time to check out some of the trusted members , many of them have "kids" mattresses or just some lower cost lower height mattresses. We know our members compete well in terms of their quality, value, service, knowledge, and transparency. All members use high-quality, safe materials at fair prices so they would certainly make a great quality/value choice.

I wouldn't say anything negative about Lucid and Zinus, they are well known Chinese mattress companies making and selling 100,000's of mattresses. Generally speaking, they make mediocre quality memory foam/polyurethane foam mattresses. Neither of them is unethical or any other shady things some people say and think about Chinese factories.

It would be important to make sure the Chinese foam manufacturer is well known and on the list of CertiPur certified foam manufacturers . CertiPUR certified foams are:

✓ Made without ozone depleters
✓ Made without PBDEs, TDCPP or TCEP (”Tris”) flame retardants
✓ Made without mercury, lead, and other heavy metals
✓ Made without formaldehyde
✓ Made without phthalates regulated by the Consumer Product Safety Commission
✓ Low VOC (Volatile Organic Compound) emissions for indoor air quality (less than 0.5 parts per million)

Thanks, let me know if you have any more questions.

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14 May 2019 12:37 #243 by BG Cat
First off, thank you for providing such comprehensive information on the mattress buying process. A little background, I purchased a Brooklyn Bedding BME 3 years ago. It seemed like a quality mattress and my wife and I enjoyed the feel of it. It was okay with motion transfer but sleeps hot. That said, the biggest issue is that indentations have developed after 3 years which are now causing back pain. It seems strange that this would occur since we are average weight and had the proper box spring (purchased from BB) supporting the mattress. We previously had a i comfort that also developed indentations and sagging around the midsection area and we had to get rid of it after two years.

We are now looking for a new mattress. Our three main criteria are durability, sleeps cool, and provides good motion isolation. We have narrowed down our search to the Nest Alexander Hybrid, the Kiss, and the Casper. I recognize that Casper is not a trusted member but they indicate that they provide added support in the middle of the mattress which is where the indentations have occurred on our last two mattresses.

Can you provide insight on which mattress - Nest Alexander Hybrid, Kiss, or Casper Mattress would be best for the attributes that we have identified as important to us- durability, sleeps cool, and motions isolation?

Any insight is much appreciated.

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16 May 2019 05:51 #244 by CBHWoodFurniture
Hi BG Cat,
we have recently been added to TMU as a trusted member.
You mentioned that you are looking for a mattress that has "durability, sleeps cool, and provides good motion isolation". I would encourage you to take a look at our bed system as well since these are some of the major points that this bed system is designed for to address.

Durability - We use a very high quality natural Talalay latex from RadiumFoam (vitatalalay) which has great durability. The minimum life is 13-15 years with only very little fatigue. The latex may well last a lot longer but there is no guarantee because no substances were added to extend the natural life of latex. But we know fro our Swiss partners that the mattress may well last 20+ years for some people. The wood used for the slats and frame is untreated solid wood and should outlast yours as well as the next few generations.

Sleeps Cool - This is a very common issue that I hear about particularly by men but also women in menopause. Latex has an open cell structure which allows air to easily flow through the mattress. Secondly our latex from RadiumFoam is not made as one solid block, but instead has hundreds of little pin holes in it. This further enhances airflow as well as increases the ability to take a person's body shape much better.

Good motion Isolation - the way we solve this problem is by providing an independent working foundation (i.e. our slat system) for each side of the bed. As you know this is important because no two people are alike, and therefore they need their own independently working support system.

Finally one thing you mentioned, though only indirectly, is the support that a bed provides - "the biggest issue is that indentations have developed after 3 years which are now causing back pain"
It does seem a rather common issue that many mattress materials cannot sustain holding a persons weight for very long without starting to fatigue. The way we solved this issue is to cut down on the mattress material (in our case latex) and replace it with a material that can hold weight without fatigue - wood. The elephant in the room then is that wood is a very hard material and does not scream of comfort! Here the trick was to turn the solid piece of wood into a flexible surface. And you can see that in our video on the profile page.
You also mentioned "had the proper box spring (purchased from BB) supporting the mattress". My background is civil engineering and I find it highly questionable why anybody would suggest using metal coils in their bed to begin with. The reason I am saying this is because the quick rate at which metal coils fatigues. Coming from Europe we have long gotten rid of metal coil bed and supports because of the fatigue factor (among other potential problems). So that being said, it is no surprise to me that within a relatively short period of time you notice a decrease in sleep quality.

Anyways all that being said, feel free to check out what we have and let me know if you have any questions about it. I tried to make our site as a 'here is the information, now you can decide what you want to do with it'.

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16 May 2019 07:53 #245 by doctorx0079
Just saw an ad for Cocoon by Sealy for the first time. And so it begins. I wonder if they can really take over the mail-order memory foam market just by having a famous name.

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16 May 2019 13:17 #246 by Sensei
Hey doctorx0079,

That's interesting now they have an ad out. Sealy, which is really Tempur Sealy, actually introduced the Cocoon mattress in August of 2016, but they must now be doing more promotion on this line.

The bigger news is that Tempurpedic introduced one of their mattresses as a bed in a box mattress. Time will tell how well they do.


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