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05 Jun 2019 07:31 #251 by ahurvitz
I've been reading a lot of background material on this site and here's my question:

We have been sleeping on a Sleep Science 9" Talalay Mattress from Costco for 5 years. It has a 3" layer of ILD 19 and a 6" bottom layer of ILD 32. We have loved it, but it turned out to be defective and we need to replace it now. We could always replace it with the same mattress, but there seem to be so many other options that cost less using the same materials. I called Talalay Global (the sole U.S. manufacturer) and they said the Talalay they supply to all the mattress firms is pretty much the same. So, if I find an online company that has the same specs as the Sleep Science mattress, can I expect it to feel the same? If most of the companies in the Expert list get their raw materials from the same manufacturers, should the mattress feel the same? The implication is that it doesn't work that way, but I can't understand why. Thanks!

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08 Jun 2019 11:04 - 08 Jun 2019 11:09 #252 by Sensei
Hey ahuritz,

Welcome to the forum :).

Thanks for the post, it's a really good question, and a lot of people have asked this in the past. It just should "feel the same"....and it never does! Now it can feel very very similar to some people here are the main reason why;

1. The cover construction and method of manufacturing. The Sleep Science - did it have a zipper cover with zipper on the bottom of the mattress? Other beds have a "tape edge" where one sews the top panel to the sides - this style will feel much firmer. Or maybe, like Arizona Premium...a veteran knowledgeable latex trusted member who uses latex layers and a zipper cover, with a zipper located at the top of mattress, I believe. Or Zipper on bottom of cover.

Then the fabric choice and th FR choice used in the mattress will affect the feel. Someone using a 330 GSM fabric and someone else using a 600GSM...different feel. Wool vs other FR fibers, how the FR layer is applied....etc.

And Cover size; if a company is using covers that are 80 x 60 inches and another has a cover that is 79.5 x 59.5 inches but will stretch...totally different feel--- same latex.

The Latex itself made by Talalay Global, a high-quality manufacturer, still has a "range" for 32 ILD, all ILD's so "technically" you could have slept on a 17ILD over 30ILD, but all within normal manufacturing ranges...but different feel. I could go on, but I am sure you get the picture, If you want to know more, I can send you to other links on TMU that explains it in more detail.

Talk to Latex Experts, like Ken, and they will know what to do.

Thanks again and good luck.

Sensei

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11 Jun 2019 13:36 - 14 Jun 2019 12:06 #253 by Goonieguy
Hello again!! i wanted to update you all on the specs for the Layla mattress! This is directly from the website Faq's! :)

The Layla mattress uses a core foam with a density of 2.0 pounds. The convoluted air flow layer which supports the soft side has a density of 1.8 pounds giving you a softer feel. The Copper Infused Memory Foam (on both sides) has a density of 3.5 pounds.

Firm side 1in 3.5lb memory foam
Core Foam: 2.0 lbs poly foam
Softer side support layer 2in. 1.8 lbs polyfoam
Softer side comfort layer 3 in 3.5lb. memory foam
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13 Jun 2019 08:14 #254 by Phoenix
Hi Goonieguy.

Thank you, as always for posting updated specs about the Layla mattress. It's always helpful for consumers to have this information, and I am glad that Layla is being transparent with their specifications.

Thank you!
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14 Jun 2019 12:07 #255 by Goonieguy
You are welcome! I find it funny really that this is something I enjoy doing in my spare time :-D

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16 Jun 2019 00:51 #256 by Phoenix
Hi Goonieguy,

That is really funny, don't worry I won't tell anyone....oh wait ....is this a public forum? This is why we love avatar names on forums!!!

Phoenix

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