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17 Jul 2019 11:27 #261 by princessonapea
Thanks Phoenix!

Phoenix wrote: Regarding the TMU link you posted, which of the consumer members in that particular thread were you comparing your situation to?
Phoenix

Its the post by MHC, #421. I thought I linked to exactly that post but maybe not.

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21 Jul 2019 09:13 #262 by Phoenix
Hi Princessoapea,

Thanks for letting me know. No worries at all, just let us know if you have any other questions about other mattresses or foundations. And feel free to update us if you decide on any particular products.

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23 Jul 2019 00:41 #263 by April
Brooklyn Bedding has a new bed, the Ecosleep. It's a latex hybrid. I was curious about the ILDs and asked them. Just got a reply this evening and wanted to share the info.

Base to Top
1.5" Natural Latex 36ILD
6" Ascension Coils
1.5" Natural Latex 28ILD
1.5" Natural Latex 14ILD
Organic Cotton and Joma Wool Cover

Seems like a decent mattress.

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24 Jul 2019 11:30 #264 by Phoenix
Hi April,

Thank you for the update on the new Brooklyn Bedding Ecosleep mattress. I appreciate it! You are correct that the specifications show no weak links. Interesting to see that they are using latex for the foundational inch below the coils, not polyfoam as many companies do.

Did they happen to mention if the latex is Talalay or Dunlop process?

Thanks again for the update.

Phoenix

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24 Jul 2019 12:38 - 24 Jul 2019 12:47 #265 by Goonieguy
Its flippable :) That's why there is latex below! They repeat that its 100% natural rainforest certified total latex but I don't see them use the word Dunlop or Talalay anywhere.
Last edit: 24 Jul 2019 12:47 by Goonieguy.

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30 Jul 2019 07:55 - 30 Jul 2019 08:05 #266 by W1nt3r
Hi team,

I'm in a bit of an interesting situation as I'm making an international move to the US and am trying to purchase a mattress/bed so that I have somewhere to sleep when I arrive (so unfortunately trialling US based options is out of the picture). However, I don't really need to value longevity mattress as I will only be here for a known 2 years, maybe up to 4 but no more.

In my online research, I came across this website, and have been reading everything (and there is a lot). From what I can work out I'm a combination sleeper who can pretty much sleep on (and through) anything, at 5'11" (and change) and about 190-195lbs.

After going over all the details of TMU member companies and information I think I've decided upon the Nest Love and Sleep. My main concern is the 1.8 lb base layer on that mattress? Will this last the 2 + years that I need it for?

EDIT ~ I also just came across the FLIP by Nest on Amazon; does anyone have any thoughts or information regarding this Mattress? I had a quick search here, but couldn't find anything.

Thanks.
Last edit: 30 Jul 2019 08:05 by W1nt3r. Reason: Additional info

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04 Aug 2019 14:48 #267 by Sensei
Hi W1nt3r,

Welcome to the mattress forum :).

Thanks for the post, and good luck on your trip to the States!

Your situation is unique, with the short term needs, approx 2 years. I understand the caution on the 1.8lb base foam, which I know you have probably read is the minimum density we always recommend for any mattress. Your BMI is around 27, so this mattress will most likely be ok for the 2 years and obviously longer than that most likely.

Regarding the Flip mattress by Nest on Amazon, this is the first time I have looked at this listing. As you have already seen the specs listed in the small print is as follows:

Technical Detail Breakdown: .75" quilted foam cover with 400 GSM poly/spandex blend 1" V250-010 Visco Gel Foam 6" 660 Gauge Caliber Coil .75" 130-032 High Density Base Foam .5" .75" quilted foam cover with 400 GSM poly/spandex blend


I don't know the exact information about the 660 gauge coil unit, this is a different unit that Nest uses for the Hybrid mattresses that are listed on the website. Each side only has either 1" memory foam, then the other side has, 75 inches of the of high-density foam. Essentially to make this mattress hit $499 AND be flip mattress comfort layers have to be put on each side of the mattress. This means one would have fewer comfort layers for pressure relief needs. This is all generally speaking, but my quick view is the Love and Sleep may be better for pressure relief and comfort with more inches of comfort layers.

Thanks again and let me know if you have any other questions.

Sensei

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08 Aug 2019 16:04 #268 by princessonapea

Phoenix wrote: Hi princessonapea.

You are very welcome. :) Noted on the Eclipse ... I do not have any reason to convince you to keep on your list especially when there are so many other options, companies, and manufacturers being transparent and disclosing what is in their mattress. I understand your issue with sagging, and I don't think it's "paranoia"... along with mattress suitability, how long you will sleep well on a mattress is one of the most significant considerations in the purchase of a mattress for most people.

Now, the IKEA mattress started sagging after only a few months (3 maybe?). I am thinking, is 1.8 that much better than 1.7 so that I can be completely at ease"


This really "depends" as there are so many manufacturers of polyfoam and other factors, such as formulation. This is why our cautions are guidance. For instance, IKEA has their own polyurethane pouring plants, and they buy 10's of Millions of dollars of foam from many other manufacturers.

Given your past experience, it seems that you are already aiming in a good direction with looking at hybrid mattresses with coils and latex or foam for comfort layers ... depending on the "trapped heat" factor you mentioned you could even possibly consider higher density memory foam, but you would need to thoroughly check that the temperature microclimate is appropriate for you.

Regarding the TMU link you posted, which of the consumer members in that particular thread were you comparing your situation to?

Phoenix


Hello,
I went ahead a bought the Luma mattress in queen size and firm version.
First day or two were ok, but I now feel a lower back pain when I wake up. This pain is similar to what I experienced with my previous cheap mattresses that were sagging in the middle (where my hips are).
Where should I go from now? Return the Luma and get a different mattress?
Which one? What can I learn from this?

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12 Aug 2019 21:09 #269 by Phoenix
Hi princessonapea.

I am sorry to hear that the Luma Mattress not working out. IMO I'd try to understand your sleeping landscape rather than rush for yet another mattress in the hopes that the new one would match your needs. A few suggestions and experiments may shed a bit more light before you move on deciding.

You describe the "pain" being "the same" ... Unless your pain is caused by a faulty foundation it is probably is very unlikely that the pain is for the same reason as the "sagging" that you experienced with your old mattress. There's the possibility that the misalignment you are experiencing could be connected to the foundation that is under your mattress so I would make sure check this. (you could check the foundation to make sure it is even and rigid and test this by trying the mattress on the floor for a few nights to see if it makes a difference)... or .. it could be mattress could be too soft for your body's needs and preferences.

I am also not sure from your description how long you've slept on the new mattress but typically your body would need to adjust to a new sleep surface as well as lose some of its “learned alignment”. Also, a new mattress can expose some of the “weaknesses” from past injuries and the body needs more time to regain its normalcy... or again ... It could simply be an issue that the materials/comfort you’ve chosen unfortunately doesn't meet with your needs. I would certainly spend more than two weeks testing out any new mattress.

I am asking for more information as sometimes consumers can have some pain from one's body adjusting to the new mattress. Does it not feel "firm enough"? Do you notice your back/hips not feeling aligned properly (as was noticeable with cheap sagging mattress)? Any other info would be great before you make any quick decisions.

Lastly, you sleep on your back which indeed calls for a firmer mattress and I know that price is also a consideration, but Luma you currently purchased has the bolsa coil and Luma also has the combi zone coil system that would be firmer than the bolsa coil. Your approximate BMI is around 25 - 26 but where you carry your weight and your body configuration are also important which may account for the misalignment that you seem to experience. There can be so many variables in the specifics of the materials, design, and construction and I'd get in touch with Luma and discuss what they recommend as they know their mattresses, how they perform over time with different body type sleepers much better than anyone else.

Hope this helps a bit and that with a few more bits of data into the place we can get a better sense of what is going on (Focusing actually on feeling the differences in your own experience which is always more accurate than anyone else's descriptions).

Phoenix

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