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Any suggestons? 16 May 2016 04:21 #1

Hi Phoenix,
Wow I almost thought for a few short seconds , I posted in my sleep on this same issue I heard about Saatva Mattresses last night being maybe a lower grade foam?
Always look here first I trust your opinion.

We are looking for a good Mattress, and Box Springs. Do we need to Order Box Springs separate?
I read much about many Mattresses over the last 2 years.

Finally bought a great piece of 3" Latex Foam from Sleep EZ , great Company. Had to exchange for the Firmer Foam. Not the Firmest Jeremy had as he said but Firm enough to be good!
Now I have come to the realization we need a New Mattress !!!
I thought my Latex Foam was failing , do not believe it is the Foam Latex Topper at all
But sure we need a new Mattress by now.

I have heard and read many talking about Brooklyn Bedding BME.. Very interesting, some happy buyers.

My husband thinks the Coil Mattresses are the only way to go, not me! We do have one personalized Mattress maker here. Slagles he orders the Latex himself if he sells it, and charges so much more. Yikes!!! And his Mattresses sell for a high price.
We have Mattress stores but none I trust at all.

I think a Brooklyn Bedding BME in Medium might be good, but so may others. We do need A California King.

And by the way I do trust Jeff at Mattresss to Go! Lives right by my Brother.
Although we are miles apart. I watched many of his Video's I was extremely impressed by
his through honesty in what goes into a Mattress.

Phoenix any good Suggestions for a good Quality made Mattress , thought of Jeremy at Sleep EZ, Looked over at Brooklyn Bedding BME. .....the Mattresses are not Build as high as ours right now and that is surely a good idea.
I am short 5'2" need a step stool right now the Old Mattress is so high.

Any and all Suggestions appreciated. Thanks!
Bunny

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Any suggestons? 16 May 2016 10:46 #2

Hi Bunny1999,

I switched your post into a new topic of its own since your comments and questions were outside the scope of the topic you posted in.

We are looking for a good Mattress, and Box Springs. Do we need to Order Box Springs separate?


I'm not sure you are clear between the difference between a box spring and a foundation. A box spring has springs inside it that flex under the mattress and there are very few one sided mattresses today that use them as a support system and in many cases they will invalidate a mattress warranty. Most mattresses in the industry today need a steel or wooden bedframe with a foundation that has minimal to no flex (vs a box spring that flexes) or a platform bed which also has little to no flex under the mattress. There are many in the industry that mix up the terminology between box springs and foundations even though they are very different products.

Most online or local stores sell foundations that are suitable for the mattresses they sell but there is more information about the different support systems (bedframes and foundations or platform beds) that are generally suitable for different types of mattresses and some examples of each of them in post #1 here .

I thought my Latex Foam was failing , do not believe it is the Foam Latex Topper at all
But sure we need a new Mattress by now.


That makes sense because a topper won't help much if there are any soft spots or sagging in the mattress underneath it and based on your previous posts your mattress is probably overdue for replacement.

Phoenix any good Suggestions for a good Quality made Mattress , thought of Jeremy at Sleep EZ, Looked over at Brooklyn Bedding BME. .....the Mattresses are not Build as high as ours right now and that is surely a good idea.
I am short 5'2" need a step stool right now the Old Mattress is so high.

Any and all Suggestions appreciated. Thanks!


While I can certainly help with "how" to choose ... It's not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first "rule" of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress. There are just too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, or PPP or how a mattress will "feel" to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or "theory at a distance" that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ).

I'm assuming you've read the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice ... and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you've read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

If you are considering online options then the mattress shopping tutorial includes several links to lists of many of the better online options I'm aware of (in the optional online step) that include many different types and categories of mattresses in a wide range of designs, budgets, firmness levels, and with different return/exchange policies that would be worth considering.

If you are primarily interested in latex then I would start with this link to a list of the members here that sell mattresses online and many of them also sell latex and latex hybrid mattresses (including component mattresses) that use different types and blends of latex that also have a wide range of different designs, options, features, return and exchange policies, and prices. Post #3 here also includes a list of manufacturers that sell component latex mattresses online as well.

As you probably know both SleepEZ and Brooklyn Bedding are members of the site which means that I think highly of both of them and that I believe they compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, knowledge, and transparency. SleepEZ primarily sells component latex mattresses with individual latex layers that can be customized for firmness and rearranged or exchanged to fine tune the comfort or support of the mattress after a purchase while the BME is a latex/polyfoam hybrid that is available in 3 different firmness levels. There is more about the pros and cons of an all latex mattress vs a latex/polyfoam hybrid in post #2 here .

When you can't test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart (which would certainly include SleepEZ and Brooklyn Bedding) and who can help "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and "feel" of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc) and the options they have available that may be the best "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about "matching" their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

If you are also considering local options then you appear to be close to Slagles which is in Bakersfield, CA so the better options or possibilities I'm aware of in the area ... subject to making sure that they are transparent about the materials and components in their mattresses (see this article ) and that they meet the quality/value guidelines I linked earlier in this reply include ...

www.slaglesmattress.com/ Bakersfield, CA. They are a factory direct manufacturer. They don't have any specific information on their site about the mattresses they make but they appear to make a range of innerspring, latex, and memory foam mattresses. They certainly fit the profile of a local manufacturer that would generally make higher quality and better value mattresses and would be well worth a phone call or a visit.

bakersfieldmattressstore.com/ Bakersfield, CA. They are also a factory direct manufacturer that makes their own latex and some memory foam mattresses. They also carry some Golden mattresses and some Spring Comfort mattresses which may be worth considering as well.
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www.jordanhomefurniture.com/ Retailer in Bakersfield. They carry a range of Diamond mattresses which may include some better quality/value options but make sure you can find out the density of any foam layers in their mattresses.

www.morfurniture.com/ Retailer in Bakersfield. They carry Sherwood and Lumina mattresses (both made by Sherwood) which may also include some better quality/value options but once again make sure you can find out the density of any foam layers in their mattresses.

Phoenix
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Any suggestons? 17 May 2016 04:42 #3

Thanks so much Phoenix,

I see you understand me better then I do myself. :silly:

I meant foundations. If you were to buy a complete Latex Mattress do you buy a good foundation elsewhere ? As I see none offered that saw did. I did not look at each one that throughly either to see if they did offer Foundations. Surely would buy one local I would think.

I see your perferance is a Wood Foundation. With Slats spaced apart for air. Am I reading that correctly?
This is what we have now, wood slats under our Foundation of the Mattress on top. We have a Complete Wood Bed that holds even our Complete Mattress set now!

Phoenix your opinion please:
Would a tight cover over the 3" Latex Topper effect it in anyway? Seems our other Topper was perfectly good without it as we always cover the Latex Topper with a Very Well made Mattress Cover always have. Even this one is covered, does that keep the Topper from getting proper Air circulation?

We will be checking all you listed, your simply amazing and so knowledgeable

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Any suggestons? 17 May 2016 05:53 #4

Hi Bunny1999,

I meant foundations. If you were to buy a complete Latex Mattress do you buy a good foundation elsewhere ? As I see none offered that saw did. I did not look at each one that throughly either to see if they did offer Foundations. Surely would buy one local I would think.


Most retailers or manufacturers that sell latex mattresses would also sell a suitable foundation but if for some reason they don't then you would need to buy it separately.

I see your perferance is a Wood Foundation. With Slats spaced apart for air. Am I reading that correctly?


Yes ... An all latex mattress will generally do best with a firm, flat, and evenly supportive support surface underneath it that has minimal to no flex under the mattress and for larger sizes with at least one center support beam that has good support to the floor to prevent any sagging in the middle of the mattress. The components need to be strong and durable and stable enough to support the weight of the mattress and the people sleeping on it without some of the parts bending, sagging, or breaking over time. The support surface under the mattress should have enough surface area to prevent the mattress from sagging through any gaps or spaces in the support surface over time but still allow some airflow under the mattress. I would suggest that in a slatted support system (either a foundation on a steel or wooden bedframe or a platform bed with a slatted support surface) that any gaps between the slats are no more than 3" (with 1 x 3 slats) although less than that would be better yet.

Would a tight cover over the 3" Latex Topper effect it in anyway? Seems our other Topper was perfectly good without it as we always cover the Latex Topper with a Very Well made Mattress Cover always have. Even this one is covered, does that keep the Topper from getting proper Air circulation?


Latex can oxidize faster with exposure to air and ozone and ultraviolet light along with other substances that can damage it see here and it's generally a good idea for latex to have a suitable dedicated cover to give it the best possible protection and to help maximize it's useful lifetime. It can also help protect it with handling. There is more in post #3 here and post #3 here that will give you some sense of the effect of different types of covers on latex. A cover would have "some" effect on the feel of the topper but a relatively thin stretchy knit cover would have the least possible effect.
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Any suggestons? 17 May 2016 07:12 #5

Thanks Phoenix for some reason it cut out much of what I told you.
I wonder why?
Will post later.

By the way the Newer 3" Latex Topper is Covered with a good covered provided by SleepEZ.
And it is Covered with a Heavy Mattress Cover also? Myself I think it needs more air. Or on Top of Mattress Cover. We have well made Sheets , and Blankets , and Comforter and Bed is not exposed to Sunlight at all. We keep Sunlight out of our bedroom completely. Although I air out in late evening during nice weather, which is a fairly long season here as we have nice weather much of the year, we also do have screens on French Door. We have one set of French Doors with Windows, but they have Tight Levelors on them and are always closed. Except when cleaning every 2 weeks. And Room is never exposed to any Direct Sunlight ever.

Ok I am late.
Thanks
Bunny

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Any suggestons? 19 May 2016 03:22 #6

Phoenix spoke to a person at Brooklyn Bedding giving specifics about each of us, even our Son.
They recommended the Soft for all of us! soft level comfort
That confuses me a tad when our weights are all different. I thought they might of suggested a Medium for my husband and me, but seems they know best.
Although they surely know what they are taking about.
I will still use my Topper I bought.

Roger over at SleepEZ is a great Guy. We are trying to figure out if the Reverie will work without removing our Headboard and Foot Board. He thinks it will fit inside our bed frame , Let me explain why I think it might not.
The Side Boards are Connected and shaped like a L which holds the Foundation and Mattress of course we reinforce with extra slats. That lip that holds is all is 2" on each side.
I do not think sadly the Reverie will fit unless we remove the Complete Side Board and Hook the Headboard and Footboard separately onto the Reverie.
I guess we could get a Queen but it would be a huge loss with Sheets and Blankets, ect!

I like both from BB and from SleepEZ . Still need to visit stores.
I think I know no one will carry a better Bed although you did mention many, I need to keep a open mind. Although the Reverie works with Foam Mattresses much better.
Thanks
Bunny.

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Any suggestons? 19 May 2016 10:18 #7

Hi Bunny1999,

Thanks for the update.

The Side Boards are Connected and shaped like a L which holds the Foundation and Mattress of course we reinforce with extra slats. That lip that holds is all is 2" on each side.


It may be possible to remove the lip.

I';m looking forward to finding out what you end up deciding.

Phoenix
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Any suggestons? 20 May 2016 05:27 #8

Phoenix the Regerie 5D will fit. Inside the Wood Bed Frame.

We did buy our Son the Brookland Bedding Mattress. My Son said it sounded good to him. He told them to give you credit. He wrote and said do not forget Phoenix sent us here. :)
The Prices are really great!
I might go with this also or I might not be able to get a Latex 10" Mattress and the Reverie 5D both?
It cost a lot of money for both at SleepEZ. Although that is truly my pick.

Bunny

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Any suggestons? 20 May 2016 07:11 #9

Hi Bunny1999,

Congratulations on your son's new mattress :)

I'm looking forward to finding out how he likes it once he receives it and has had the chance to try it out.

Phoenix
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Any suggestons? 31 May 2016 02:59 #10

Phoenix received it Wednesday, fast shipping!
We let it Air out. Really had little to no smell..
My Son sleep on it 2 Nights, he said he wakes up a lot less sore each morning.
That Speaks Volumes.
He really likes the Brooklyn Bed. Looks great and feels soft.
Pillow is a bit to hard, and I see no place to unzip? To let some stuffing that is in it.
I use to Sew but cannot anymore.

Now for us, we ordered the 10" Natural Latex Bed a Split King at SleepEZ. Roger was great.
Good grief need to go back and tell him about your recommendation. I will!!!
We receive it surely by Today or tomorrow. Will let it air we always do. With 6 Pieces that is not going yo be easy. Yikes : :whistle:

Then we purchased a Split King Serta Adjustable Foundation.
The price was much better then the Reverie, found a sale.
Bought the Warranty also. And Home Delivery.
Still waiting yo hear where it is? I have copies and used a Good Payment method so hopefully no worries.
We are so Happy our Son loves his New Mattress. He has a bad back Scolosis and Mario did help. Just hope it holds up well. And , All goes well for all we bought.
Thank you for all the Great Help.
Sunny
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