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Any feedback on Enso Tital Avante Garde adjustable base? 25 May 2016 17:55 #1

I am learning TONS from this invaluable website. I want to buy a split king latex mattress and put it on an adjustable base. I was looking at the L&P S cape and the Reverie 7S, and ran into the Enso Avante Garde. It got my attention because of the adjustable lumbar support. I don't know if that's overkill when you have both an adjustable frame and a latex mattress. . I'm also not sure if it's wall hugging. I know L&P and Reverie are well known brands. I can't seem to find any quality information on Enso. I haven't found a good local resource for the Ergomotion brand. I live in Maryland, outside of Washington, D.C. in the 20904 zip code. I'm also looking for local manufacturers for the latex mattresses. Any suggestions?

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Any feedback on Enso Tital Avante Garde adjustable base? 25 May 2016 22:02 #2

Hi golfergirl29,

I am learning TONS from this invaluable website. I want to buy a split king latex mattress and put it on an adjustable base. I was looking at the L&P S cape and the Reverie 7S, and ran into the Enso Avante Garde. It got my attention because of the adjustable lumbar support. I don't know if that's overkill when you have both an adjustable frame and a latex mattress. . I'm also not sure if it's wall hugging. I know L&P and Reverie are well known brands. I can't seem to find any quality information on Enso.


A separate lumbar adjustment may be useful in some cases if the mattress itself doesn't provide suitable lumbar support. It could possibly help to compensate for a mattress that was too soft if you aren't able to return it but the only way to know whether it would be beneficial for you with any specific mattress would be based on your own personal experience.

While it's probably not a complete list ... some of the adjustable beds that have adjustable lumbar support include ...

www.sleepys.com/enso-titan-avant-garde-premium-adjustable-base/ENS600.html
www.amazon.com/Serta-Motion-Custom-Adjustable-Queen/dp/B00JGMATQI
softide.com/assets/8300_spec_sheet-web.pdf
www.matt-to-go.com/Rize_Revolution.html (Discontinued once stock is gone)
www.bedframes.com/rize/the-cresta
customaticbeds.com/product/the-visionary/#sthash.vKMlzX7y.dpbs
customaticbeds.com/product/the-dreamstar-2/#sthash.TYuopCvc.dpbs

Enso adjustable beds are manufactured by Innova Sleep Systems and while I'm not specifically familiar with them ... there would be no reason to think that they were either more or less reliable than any of the other major adjustable bed manufacturers.

There is more information about choosing an adjustable bed in post #3 here and the main adjustable bed topic that it links to that can help you choose an adjustable bed based on price vs features comparisons and also includes some retailers that you can use as good sources of information about the features of the adjustable beds they carry and as pricing references as well (in post #6 in the main adjustable bed topic). Of course there are many other sources as well and prices and models can change on a regular basis so I would also include some internet searching in your research and I would keep in mind that online advertised prices are often price controlled so make sure you call them to find out their best prices rather than just looking at the prices on websites.

I haven't found a good local resource for the Ergomotion brand.


Ergomotion has a retail store finder on their site here .

20904 zip code. I'm also looking for local manufacturers for the latex mattresses. Any suggestions?


Subject to first confirming that any retailer or manufacturer on the list you wish to deal with is completely transparent (see this article ) and to making sure that any mattress you are considering meets your criteria and the quality/value guidelines here ... the better options or possibilities I'm aware of in and around the Washington, DC area are listed in post #2 here .

Phoenix
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Any feedback on Enso Tital Avante Garde adjustable base? 27 Aug 2016 06:20 #3

It has no wall hugging. Matress Firm delivered a beaten up floor model, which was sold with 20 years warranty in the price, but was causing a cracking noise from day one. The store clerk had seemingly no idea what the adjustable lumbar support was as a base feature. The manufacturer was Innova based on the manual. The manual also stated that floor models "may" compromise your warranty. The store of course charges your credit card before you see the manual.

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Any feedback on Enso Tital Avante Garde adjustable base? 27 Aug 2016 07:27 #4

Here's an addition to the beds with the lumbar support.
Rize Cresta: www.bedframes.com/rize/the-cresta

FYI, the Rize Revolution has been discontinued.
Jeff Scheuer, The Beducator™ Owner of Mattress To Go
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Any feedback on Enso Tital Avante Garde adjustable base? 27 Aug 2016 10:34 #5

Hi NeedLumbarSupport,

Thanks for letting us know that the Avante Garde doesn't have a wall hugger feature which is certainly something that may be important for some people.

The manual also stated that floor models "may" compromise your warranty.


You can see the warranty for the Enso adjustable beds here . With a floor model the warranty starts on the date of manufacture instead of the date of purchase so you could lose a significant part of the first year's coverage.

Hopefully Mattress Firm has been able to look after you with the cracking noise.

@MattressToGo,

Thanks for the heads up about the Revolution and for letting us know about the Cresta.

Phoenix
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Any feedback on Enso Tital Avante Garde adjustable base? 10 Apr 2018 10:55 #6

any general comments regarding the quality of the rize adjustable beds?

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Any feedback on Enso Tital Avante Garde adjustable base? 11 Apr 2018 09:52 #7

"Quality" is a bit of nebulous term taking into account the entirety of an adjustable bed base unit, but I can tell you a bit about the Rize lineup (disclaimer: I offer Rize and Leggett bases at my store).

The first thing I'd offer up is that the major players domestically (like Leggett and Platt, Rize, Reverie, Ergomotion) all do a pretty good job. I am seeing a bit of a difference the past two years with a "race to the bottom" of new items, mostly imports (not that this makes them bad by default), to capitalize on the popularity of adjustable bed bases and attempts to get the price points lower and lower. Less powerful and less refined motors, less steel, cheaper steel, poorer welds, and so on. Granted, power base motors are under load for a just a few seconds as they adjust up and down, but you still want to take a look underneath any item you're considering to look at the mechanism and how it's put together. There is no one "best" manner of designing a base structure (and certainly some new interesting methods such as Yaasa in articulation and ability to be UPS-able), but you want to make sure than anything you're considering at least visually appears to be solid and put together well.

The Rize line does use 850 lb lift capacity motors across their entire line, and they do use a decent amount of steel in their frame networks. Their motors are quiet and "torquey" - they're neither the fastest nor the slowest in adjustment speed. Like most brands, your choice would come down to which bells and whistles you deem necessary and worthy of your hard-earned Benjamins.

I've had very few issues the past 25 years with any of the adjustable bed brands I've offered. With most adjustable bed bases, if you have an issue it will tend to crop up earlier in your ownership, and quite often can be a result of how the product was handled during shipping (something accidentally coming loose, item mishandled by transit company), and this would usually be covered early on by most manufacturer's warranties. Even if you did have a motor or massage unit go bad (maybe you had a power surge) and had to replace it yourself, most bases are quite "plug and play" in replacing componentry and simple enough to do on your own, although it just isn't a common thing with most of the better companies out there.

Overall, I've been very happy with Rize, but I'm also happy with my Leggett and Platt offerings, and if I offered other brands such as Reverie or Ergomotion I'd probably be happy as well. Without meaning to sound solicitous, if you have specific questions about a certain Rize model, you're more than welcome to contact me at my business and I'll be happy to answer questions about that or any other things about adjustable bed bases.

There is more information from Phoenix about choosing an adjustable bed in post #3 here that also can be quite useful.

I hope that general information helps you out.
Jeff Scheuer, The Beducator™ Owner of Mattress To Go
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Any feedback on Enso Tital Avante Garde adjustable base? 16 Apr 2018 15:14 #8

thank you 'mattress to go' as you noticed i tried ordering the rize crest from your website and you kindly informed me of the new model that they are releasing this summer. i am looking forward.

thank you so much for giving me the updated information!

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