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Brooklyn Bedding BME - smell and off gassing from other forum members??? Would love input! 16 Jun 2016 09:20 #1

I am down to either BB BME or Sleep EZ all latex and would love feedback from any other members on either.

Anyone notice any strong chemical smell or off gassing from the BME? I really like the price point and that its an already 'done" mattress, no building layers. But I am very sensitive to smells and chemicals so wondering if the polyfoam has strong off gassing? I know the Latex has a smell but that does not bother me as it is not harmful.

Any feedback from members? (or if you have SleepEZ all latex, any feedbac??)

Trying to make a decision soon!

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Brooklyn Bedding BME - smell and off gassing from other forum members??? Would love input! 16 Jun 2016 10:56 #2

Hi Eeks,

The latex in the BME is certified by Oeko-Tex and the polyfoam is certified by CertiPUR so there would certainly be no issues in terms of the safety of the materials or any harmful offgassing and VOC's.

Hopefully some of the forum members that own the BME or a SleepEZ mattress will see your post and share their comments.

In the hundreds of comments on the forum about the BME mattress the only ones that have mentioned smell at all since the mattress was first launched have said that it is slight and even the slight smell dissipates quickly (even from those that have said they were sensitive to smells). There have been no comments on the forum about a strong smell.

In terms of "all latex" mattresses such such as SleepEZ ... all the latex you are likely to encounter (either Dunlop or Talalay that is made with either natural or synthetic rubber or a blend of both) will have a reliable certification such as Oeko-Tex, Eco-Institut, or Greenguard Gold (see post #2 here ) or C2C (see post #13 here ) and based on actual testing I would consider any type or blend of latex to be a very "safe" material in terms of harmful substances and VOC's but outside of the "safety" of latex .... any initial smell from a latex mattress would depend on the type and blend of the latex and there is more about the smell of latex in post #2 here .

While most people wouldn't have any issues with either mattress in terms of smell ... different people can also have a very different sense of smell and some people may be sensitive to a smell that doesn't bother others or that some people don't notice at all so if you are very sensitive to smells that most people wouldn't be sensitive to then the return/exchange policy may become a more important part of the "value" of a mattress purchase so you can assess the smell of the mattress based on your own personal experience rather than relying on other people's sense of smell which may be very different from your own.

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Brooklyn Bedding BME - smell and off gassing from other forum members??? Would love input! 16 Jun 2016 11:00 #3

Hi Eeks,

We have had the BME for about 6 weeks now. No discernable smell. Comfortable and we are considering a second.

good luck...

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Brooklyn Bedding BME - smell and off gassing from other forum members??? Would love input! 16 Jun 2016 13:39 #4

Phoenix and Loodnar,

Thank you so much for the feedback - its hard to know what the off gassing or smells are without someone weighing in that owns the actual mattress!

Loodnar - if you see this, what firmness did you get? I am leaning towards firm and hoping its pretty firm as I like firm mattresses.

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Brooklyn Bedding BME - smell and off gassing from other forum members??? Would love input! 16 Jun 2016 13:49 #5

Hi Eeks,

Loodnar - if you see this, what firmness did you get? I am leaning towards firm and hoping its pretty firm as I like firm mattresses.


While other people's comments about the knowledge and service of a particular business can certainly be very helpful ... I would always keep in mind that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and I would be cautious about about using anyone else's suggestions, experiences or reviews on a specific mattress (either positive or negative) or review sites in general as a reliable source of information or guidance about how you will feel on the same mattress or how suitable or how durable a mattress may be for you. In many if not most cases they can be more misleading than helpful because a mattress that would be a perfect choice for one person or even a larger group of people in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on (even if they are in a similar weight range). In other words ... reviews or other people's experiences in general won't tell you much if anything about the suitability, quality, durability, or "value" of a mattress for any particular person (see post #13 here ).

Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like "medium" for someone else or even "soft" for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they "rate" a mattress as well (see post #15 here ) so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science.

Your own careful testing or personal experience is the most reliable way to know whether any mattress is a good "match" for you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) but when you can't test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and "feel" of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc) and the options they have available that may be the best "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about "matching" their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

Phoenix
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Brooklyn Bedding BME - smell and off gassing from other forum members??? Would love input! 16 Jun 2016 14:32 #6

Hi eeks,

Yes, of course it has to be down to personal choice. We ordered medium firmness which at first seemed maybe too firm for us, but we only had an older spring coil mattress to compare to, so not sure what you and others might find comfortable. The other information I can share is that my wife and I are 5' 9" and 6' 0' respectively and in the 160 pound area. Add this with a grain of salt with other factors you are considering!

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Brooklyn Bedding BME - smell and off gassing from other forum members??? Would love input! 16 Jun 2016 22:45 #7

Mine smelled a little bit, nothing too gross to me, just a kinda odd new product smell for a day or two.

I got the medium firmness, I'm 150-155 pounds, and I gotta say now that I am glad I didn't get the firm... the medium is pretty damn firm, but with just the right amount of plushness and contour.

I am a back sleeper and even after sleeping on it only once so far, this is the first time I have woken up pain free in a while, time will tell though! I was pretty shocked when I woke up, like damn... this is weird... I don't hurt!

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Brooklyn Bedding BME - smell and off gassing from other forum members??? Would love input! 17 Jun 2016 11:31 #8

Steve - thank you for your helpful feedback! Its nice to hear from people that own the mattress. Sounds like you are pleased with your decision!

Phoenix - I am leaning towards getting the BME instead of the Sleep Ez Select because of price, trial period and materials used - we feel like it is worth trying it out because if it works out it will save us half of what we will pay with Sleep EZ. And if it doesn't work out then we will proceed with an all latex mattress.

While whittling down my selection, I see that BME uses synthetic Dunlop. Doesn't bother me as long as it doesn't off gas. Do you know what synthetic Dunlop is made from? Would there be significant off gassing or VOCs with that to worry about? Is synthetic less durable? Do you happen to know what polyfoam they use? They said it is made by Pacific Urethane and that it is certipur - but wondering if its soy or something else?

I know you think highly of BME - any other weak links in materials used or things to think about during my final selection here? Anything I'm missing? I feel like its a pretty good value option for a king mostly latex mattress.

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Brooklyn Bedding BME - smell and off gassing from other forum members??? Would love input! 17 Jun 2016 12:16 #9

Hi eeks,

Phoenix - I am leaning towards getting the BME instead of the Sleep Ez Select because of price, trial period and materials used - we feel like it is worth trying it out because if it works out it will save us half of what we will pay with Sleep EZ. And if it doesn't work out then we will proceed with an all latex mattress.


As you know the BME is a "finished" mattress and has a great trial and return policy so you can test the mattress in your bedroom instead of a showroom to make sure it's a good "match" for you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP without any risk.

The SleepEZ on the other hand is a component mattress which allows you to fine tune the comfort and/or support of the mattress by rearranging the layers or exchanging a layer after a purchase at a minimal $30 cost. They also have a good return policy that allows you to return the mattress for a refund for a $99 cost. You can also replace a single layer if one of the layers softens or breaks down sooner than the others (usually the top layer) or if your needs or preferences change over time without having to replace the entire mattress.

There is more about the pros and cons of a component mattress with a zip cover and loose layers vs a finished mattress with glued layers in post #15 here and post #2 here .

There is also more about the pros and cons of a latex/polyfoam hybrid vs an all latex mattress in post #2 here .

Both of them would certainly make great quality/value choices.

While whittling down my selection, I see that BME uses synthetic Dunlop. Doesn't bother me as long as it doesn't off gas. Do you know what synthetic Dunlop is made from? Would there be significant off gassing or VOCs with that to worry about? Is synthetic less durable?


Synthetic rubber (latex) is made from a copolymer of styrene and butadiene. There is more about the different types and blends of latex in post #6 here .

Any type or blend of latex is a very durable material relative to other types of foam material such as memory foam or polyfoam.

All the latex you are likely to encounter (either Dunlop or Talalay that is made with either natural or synthetic rubber or a blend of both) will have a reliable certification such as Oeko-Tex, Eco-Institut, or Greenguard Gold (see post #2 here ) or C2C (see post #13 here ) and based on actual testing I would consider any type or blend of latex to be a very "safe" material in terms of harmful substances and VOC's (offgassing).

Both the blended Talalay and the synthetic continuous pour Dunlop in the BME are certified for harmful substances and VOC's by Oeko-Tex.

Do you happen to know what polyfoam they use? They said it is made by Pacific Urethane and that it is certipur - but wondering if its soy or something else?


There is more about soy foams or other so called "plant based" foams in post #2 here . They are basically the same as any other polyurethane foam and I would make durability comparisons between any type of polyfoam based on their density. The polyfoam in their base layer is 2 lb density which is a durable material that would be suitable for any weight range. All of their polyfoam is also CertiPUR certified for harmful substances and VOC's..

I know you think highly of BME - any other weak links in materials used or things to think about during my final selection here?


Neither one of the mattresses you are considering have any lower quality materials or weak links that would compromise the durability and useful life of either mattress relative to any weight range.

Anything I'm missing?


There is more about the 3 most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase in post #13 here which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on suitability, durability, and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for).

Once you have narrowed down your options to a list of finalists that are all choices between "good and good" (which they are) and you have confirmed that none of them have any lower quality materials or "weak links" in their design relative to your weight range (which they don't) and if at this point there are no clear winners between them (which is usually a good indication that you have done some good research) then you are in the fortunate position that any of them would likely be a suitable choice and post #2 here can help you make a final choice based on your local testing or mattresses you have slept well on, your more detailed conversations with each of them, your confidence about PPP and the suitability of each one, their prices, your preferences for different types of materials (or different types and blends of latex), the options you have after a purchase to fine tune the mattress or exchange or return the mattress or individual layers, any additional extras that are part of each purchase, and on "informed best judgement" based on all the other objective, subjective, and intangible parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

Phoenix
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Brooklyn Bedding BME - smell and off gassing from other forum members??? Would love input! 17 Jun 2016 13:41 #10

Phoenix,

Ok I was googling Brooklyn Bedding BME today and reading through pages and pages of links of reviews.

Most people that reviewed were pretty positive about it.

Then I came across a site saying R&S Mattress and Brooklyn Bedding uses materials bought from other companies going out of business - like closeouts and old materials. Is this true? Are they just using piece meal things and glueing it all together to make a mattress? Or do they have their own suppliers of latex and foam and are using good quality materials that are fresh and new just for them? I'm freaked a little!

And then I came across a site called Old Bed Guy and he was knocking Brooklyn Bedding saying they don't use quality materials and their polyfoam can cause indentations and sinkage and doesn't hold up.

What is right??? After 6 months maybe reading too much is making it worse! My head is going to explode with all these choices and info!!

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