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Compatible mattresses that I can test in store 01 Jul 2016 09:13 #1

I've been reading as much info from the shopping guide and forums as possible and it has helped tremendously. My situation is that every mattress I've ever owned has been handed down to me, so I've never really been mattress shopping, and don't even know my own preferences fully yet. My current mattress is a cheap innerspring which was given to me a couple years ago, but it is over 30 years old. I've decided it's time to finally get a quality mattress. I am 5’9 and about 165lbs.

I've kind of narrowed down my choices of what I want, but it's very hard for me to make a decision without a chance to test these mattresses in person. I'm hoping someone can give me some comparable feeling mattresses from other brands (like tempurpedic) that I could test out in the store. That will give me a better idea of what type of mattress I'd prefer.

What I'm currently looking at is:
Novosbed medium
Novosbed soft
Nest Alexander medium
Nest Alexander soft

I was also considering Amerisleep and Loom and Leaf, but after reading the forums I think I should probably stay away from those brands. I was also thinking about the Original Mattress Factory Serenity because it seems like it uses very quality materials. But that might be a little more money than I want to pay.

I know comfort is subjective so I'm not asking which is more comfortable. I want to know what mattresses that I can easily test are comparable in feeling so I can decide which is most comfortable to me.

Any help anyone can give would be most appreciated. Thanks.

Chris

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Compatible mattresses that I can test in store 01 Jul 2016 10:00 #2

Hi ardler,

I've kind of narrowed down my choices of what I want, but it's very hard for me to make a decision without a chance to test these mattresses in person. I'm hoping someone can give me some comparable feeling mattresses from other brands (like tempurpedic) that I could test out in the store. That will give me a better idea of what type of mattress I'd prefer.

What I'm currently looking at is:
Novosbed medium
Novosbed soft
Nest Alexander medium
Nest Alexander soft


I would approach it from the other direction and test the different Tempurpedic mattresses first so you can find the one that is the best "match" for you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP and then you can use your testing as a reference point to help you choose an online mattress that is a reasonable "approximation" for the firmness of the Tempurpedic mattress that you prefer although it may still have a different "feel".

There is more information in post #9 here about the different ways that one mattress can "match" or "approximate" another one. Every layer and component in a mattress (including the cover and any quilting materials) will affect the feel and performance of every other layer and component and the mattress "as a whole" so unless you are able to find another mattress that uses exactly the same type of materials, components, cover and quilting, layer thicknesses, layer firmnesses, and overall design (which would be very unlikely) then there really isn't a reliable way to match one mattress to another one in terms of "comfort", firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your Personal preferences) based on the specifications of the mattresses (even assuming that you can find out all the specifications you would need for both mattresses you are comparing in the first place).

Mattress manufacturers generally try to differentiate their mattress from the mattresses made by other manufacturers and don't normally try to "match" another mattress that is made by a different manufacturer so unless a manufacturer specifically says in their description of a mattress that one of their mattresses in the same general category is specifically designed to "match" or "approximate" another one in terms of firmness or "feel" and PPP and/or they are very familiar with both mattresses and can provide reliable guidance about how they compare based on the "averages" of a larger group of people that have compared them (different people may have very different opinions about how two mattresses compare) ... the only reliable way to know for certain how two mattresses would compare for you in terms of how they "feel" or in terms of firmness or PPP (regardless of anyone else's opinions of how they compare which may be different from your own) would be based on your own careful testing or actual sleeping experience on both of them.

Having said that ... if you are researching online memory foam mattresses then the mattress shopping tutorial includes a link to a list of some of the better online memory foam options I'm aware of (in the optional online step) and several of them make memory foam mattresses that they describe as being reasonable approximations of the general firmness of many of the Tempurpedic mattresses. Several of the other retailers or manufacturers that are on the list that don't specifically describe their mattresses as being similar to one of the Tempurpedic models would probably also be able to give you more information about which of their mattress would be the closest approximation to the Tempurpedic mattress that you prefer as well.

When you can't test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and "feel" of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc) and the options they have available that may be the best "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about "matching" their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

I know comfort is subjective so I'm not asking which is more comfortable. I want to know what mattresses that I can easily test are comparable in feeling so I can decide which is most comfortable to me.


"Feel" and firmness can also be very subjective.

While other people's comments about the knowledge and service of a particular business can certainly be very helpful ... I would always keep in mind that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and I would be cautious about about using anyone else's suggestions, experiences or reviews on a specific mattress (either positive or negative) or review sites in general as a reliable source of information or guidance about how you will feel on the same mattress or how suitable or how durable a mattress may be for you. In many if not most cases they can be more misleading than helpful because a mattress that would be a perfect choice for one person or even a larger group of people in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on (even if they are in a similar weight range). In other words ... reviews or other people's experiences in general won't tell you much if anything about the suitability, quality, durability, or "value" of a mattress for any particular person (see post #13 here ).

There are also no "standard" definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer. Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like "medium" for someone else or even "soft" for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they "rate" a mattress as well (see post #15 here ) so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science. In other words ... the only reliable way to know whether a mattress will be "firm enough" or "soft enough" for you will be based on your own careful testing or your own personal experience.

When you are buying online then you can't make side by side comparisons with other mattresses that you may also have been considering so there isn't any way to know which of them would have been "best" for you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP unless you have personal experience with each of them.

Any specific mattress may be the "best" match for a relatively small percentage of people, a "good" match for a larger percentage, and an "OK" match for a larger percentage yet but the only way to know for certain whether the mattress you end up choosing will be a "good enough" match for you to keep it (even if it isn't the "best match" out of all the mattresses that you "could have tried" instead") will be based on your own personal experience when you sleep on it so the return policy can be a more important part of the "value" of an online choice to reduce the risk involved in making a choice that you have never tried in person. It's really a matter of risk management and "tilting" the odds of success in your favor as much as possible.

Again ... a more detailed conversation with an online retailer or manufacturer will be a much better source of guidance based on their knowledge of their own mattresses and their experience with the "averages" of many people over the course of years compared to a range of differing opinions from other people that may not be particularly knowledgeable about mattresses and only have their own experience on a mattress to go by that may have very different perceptions, preferences, or experiences from your own.

Phoenix
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