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Costco Mattress Battle Royale 21 Jul 2016 18:02 #1

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Hello! Hope I can get some advice on this huge investment.

I am debating between three mattresses. Both with memory foam/latex.

I am looking for something firm with good support as I am a back sleeper, 6'3 190-200 lbs.
The wife is 5'3, 103 lbs and sleeps on her back and side.

The mattresses in question are:
Spring Air Natalie Latex Hybrid Ultra Firm King Mattress
2.25” of Firm Spring Air Quilting Foam
3/8” Gel Infused Memory Foam Lumbar Support
1” Ultra Firm Natures Gel Bead Latex Foam
7” Two Piece Soy Based HD Poly Core
1.5” Fiber Foam Back Bone
Mattress Thickness 10.5”
7” Plant Based Foam Core – Plant based foam is eco friendly and provides a healthier, more comfortable night’s sleep

Spring Air Penny Hybrid Firm King Mattress
.75” plush Spring Air quilting foam
3/8” latex foam lumbar support
1” cool gel infused memory foam
1” cool gel infused memory foam
1.5” back care comfort foam
1.5” back care comfort foam
6” high density foam support core base
1.5” back bone support foam

Brentwood Home Sequoia Euro Pillow Top King Mattress (I like this one the most)+
Quilted Panel
A. Belgium 4-Way Stretch Knit Cover
B. Natural New Zealand Wool
C. 1-Inch ComfortFlex Foam

Construction
D. 2-Inch Gel Memory Foam
E. 2-Inch Natural Latex Foam
F. 2-Inch HCFM Airlux Ventilated Foam
G. 6-Inch Therapeutic Support Base


Any help would be appreciated! If you had to chose one of these, which one would you choose?

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Costco Mattress Battle Royale 21 Jul 2016 18:21 #2

Hi aznkorboi,

Any help would be appreciated! If you had to chose one of these, which one would you choose?


Based on the information you provided I wouldn't choose any of them.

While I can certainly help with "how" to choose ... It's not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first "rule" of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, or PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) or how a mattress will "feel" to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or "theory at a distance" that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ).

I'm not sure what you've read since you found the site but it looks like you haven't read the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice ... and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you've read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort" and PPP that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

Again nobody can speak to how any specific mattress will "feel" for someone else or whether it will be a good "match" in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances and you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress but outside of PPP (which is the most important part of "value"), the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can't see or "feel" and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out information listed here so you can compare the materials and components to the quality/durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

Unfortunately none of the specs you listed contain any information about the density and durability of any of the memory foam or polyfoam in the mattresses you listed so it's not possible to make any meaningful comments about the quality or durability of any of them.

If you can find out all the information here about any mattress you are considering and post it on the forum I'd be happy to let you know if there are any lower quality materials or weak links in the mattress that could compromise the durability or useful life of the mattress and would be a cause for concern. If a retailer or manufacturer is either unable or unwilling to easily provide you with this information then I would pass the mattress by because it would be a much too risky to purchase.

Based on the typical materials they tend to use ... the quality and durability of the materials in both of the Spring Air mattresses are most likely lower than I would consider but I can't know this for sure without knowing the specifics of each of the layers.

Phoenix
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Costco Mattress Battle Royale 21 Jul 2016 20:38 #3

For what it's worth, I think the Sequoia details are below (Assuming they are correct).

The Sequioa is constructed as follows:

The cover is handcrafted and made with a Belgium 4-way stretch knit panel & premium upholstery fabrics, which is infused with all natural New Zealand wool quilted with a plush 1” layer of ComfortFlex foam. The cover is hand tufted to not only give a luxury look but tufting also provides some extra room for air flow and better temperature regulation.

Below that:

2-Inch Gel Memory Foam
4 LB Density and 14 ILD
Below that:

2-Inch Natural Latex Foam
4.3 LB Density and D70
Below that:

2-Inch HCFM Airlux Ventilated Foam
1.8 LB Density and 30 ILD
Below That:

6-Inch Therapeutic Support Base
1.8 LB Density and 30 ILD

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Costco Mattress Battle Royale 21 Jul 2016 20:49 #4

Hi SleeplessinDallas,

Thanks for providing the specs of the Sequoia mattress ... I appreciate it (I should have clicked the star on the image on the Costco site) :)

@aznkorboi

There are no lower quality materials or weak links in the mattress that would compromise the durability or useful life of the mattress relative to more average weight ranges (lower 200's or less).

Phoenix
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Costco Mattress Battle Royale 21 Jul 2016 21:18 #5

Anytime :) I don't often get the opportunity to share valuable information here (I take much more)!

The Sequoia had crept it's way onto my radar also since I've always been somewhat drawn to the memory foam/latex combo and you know I like a good return policy ;-)

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Costco Mattress Battle Royale 22 Jul 2016 05:17 #6

Cool! The great phoenix responded to my post!

yeah, I will give all the links you sent a good read. II narrowed it down to those three but I will keep checking!

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Costco Mattress Battle Royale 22 Jul 2016 05:18 #7

haha ditto on the return policy.

I just bought a Meadowdale Sealy Cushion Firm Mattress and we are going to return it. IT's only been a week and the plush pillowtop has dented in making sleeping very uncomfortable.

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Costco Mattress Battle Royale 22 Jul 2016 07:50 #8

Hi aznkorboi,

yeah, I will give all the links you sent a good read. II narrowed it down to those three but I will keep checking!


Out of the three mattresses you linked I would avoid both of the Spring Air mattresses but the Sequoia uses good quality materials that are suitable for your weight range and since Costco has a great return policy (so can try the mattress to make sure you sleep well on it without any risk) it would certainly be worth considering.

I just bought a Meadowdale Sealy Cushion Firm Mattress and we are going to return it. IT's only been a week and the plush pillowtop has dented in making sleeping very uncomfortable.


All the major brands such as Sealy/Stearns & Foster, Simmons, and Serta all tend to use lower quality and less durable materials in their mattresses than most of their smaller competitors that will tend to soften or break down prematurely relative to the price you pay which is why I would generally suggest avoiding all of them completely (along with most of the retailers that focus on them as well) regardless of how they may feel in a showroom along with any mattress where you aren't able to find out the type and quality/durability of the materials inside it (see the guidelines here along with post #3 here and post #12 here and post #404 here ).

I'm looking forward to finding out what you end up deciding.

Phoenix
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Costco Mattress Battle Royale 23 Aug 2017 20:34 #9

Would the materials in the Sequoia be OK for two people at 250 lbs? We are both losing weight and will get down to about 200 each over the next year or so.

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Costco Mattress Battle Royale 24 Aug 2017 16:14 #10

Hi Astraeus,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :)

Would the materials in the Sequoia be OK for two people at 250 lbs? We are both losing weight and will get down to about 200 each over the next year or so.


Congratulations on your continued (and future) weight loss!

The current specifications of the Sequoia are the same as previously listed here in the thread:

New Zealand Wool and 1” Quiltflex polyfoam quilted to cover. Unknown foam density.

2-Inch Gel Memory Foam
4 LB Density and 14 ILD
Below that:

2-Inch Natural Latex Foam
4.3 LB Density and D70
Below that:

2-Inch HCFM Airlux Ventilated Foam
1.8 LB Density and 30 ILD
Below That:

6-Inch Therapeutic Support Base
1.8 LB Density and 30 ILD

Ideally, for a higher BMI, I would recommend 2 lb or higher polyfoam and memory foam that is 5 lb or higher. As you are losing weight, the current foam densities in this mattress would then come into the range that would be more appropriate for your “new” BMI.

Phoenix
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