TOPIC:

If way too firm, maybe try 2 layers of Talalay soft (top, 2nd) and 1 Talalay medium (3rd) and 1 Dunlop medium or soft (bottom)?

They mattress does not include more than one layer of talalay. We will only be able to change out the Dunlop layers for soft. I am hoping that will work.

Here is an update. I haven't mentioned up until now that I am married. My wife and I have been on the same page with the mattress selection up until now so I didn't see the point. A few things that I need to communicate require me to talk about my wife's roll in the adjustment process now.
The Flexus driver arrived on Thursday the 17th to change out our layers. I was told by Henry that he would change things around until we were happy. It is unfortunate that I did not tell my wife about my conversation with Henry. I work during the day so my wife is the one who has been there while the changes have been made. When the driver arrived he changed all of our layers again. This time we were given from the bottom up medium, medium, soft Dunlop, soft Talalay.. The driver made the changes and left. He did not offer to make any further changes if my wife was not happy as Henry told me he would. I think it may be a communication problem.
So where are we now? We have slept on the new combination for 11 nights. There is a drastic improvement in softness. It still comes up short compared to the mattress in the show room that James refers to as "the cloud". So how does it feel? I really like it. I find the softness adequate and think maybe going softer could lead to support issues. It is just a guess. I play a lot of tennis and have noticed that since I have been sleeping on latex that my back is not as sore the day after playing as it used to be. My wife on the other hand still longs for a softer feel. I just wonder what medium, soft, soft, soft would feel like? If the driver would have followed Henry's instructions we would know. What are we going to do from here? I don't know yet but I will keep you all posted.

Hi Schenkelini,

Thank you for the update! I’m glad things are moving forward and Flexus has brought out a new configuration that is agreeing with you better than the previous versions.

While I obviously wasn’t present with your conversation/arrangement with Flexus regarding your exchange, a manufacturer will usually want you to try something out for a few nights as opposed to a few minutes before making another adjustment, as it will give a more complete appreciation for the feel of the product during the entire night. Your situation may be different (as you’ve already had previous swapping out of layers), but the delivery staff was more than likely simply following the guidelines they had (or not) been given as opposed to ignoring specific instructions. I’d think they’d want to do their best to please you. Either way, you are correct that proper communication between you, your wife and Flexus is of course paramount.

I am happy to hear that you are sleeping better. After 11 days, there will still of course be some more softening and adjustment going on with the mattress, so hopefully it ends up being a comfort that both you and your wife can enjoy for many years.

Phoenix

Well it has been over 6 months now and We are still happy. The mattress is a little softer than it was in my last post. My wife still sometimes misses the feeling of sinking into the mattress more, but we both sleep well and have no pain of any sort. I differ with my wife. I like the latex feel better than the conventional mattress with a pillow top.

Hi Schenkelini,

Thank you for your most recent update! I'm happy that you are sleeping well on the mattress, and your wife is also adjusting well. I hope you'll be able to follow-up with future updates as well.

Phoenix

I want to start a new thread and cannot find a button to do that. Can you please help me?

You can currently only start a new thread in one of the 'Talk to the Experts' forums available in the top header. If you can find a suitable expert there you can create a new thread in their section, otherwise you can search for a related thread and just add your post to an existing thread. Either way you should get a response.

As you can see above my wife and I purchased a 13” latex king mattress from Flexus Comfort 2 years ago. We ended up exchanging layers a few times to get the right feel, but we have been very happy since. My wife has been dealing with some medical issues recently that have caused her sleep schedule to be very erratic. She is retired, but I still work and the times that she is up all night have caused me to escape to the twin bed in the den. That bed has a cheap conventional mattress that I do not find very comfortable. On those nights I do not sleep very well. It has been happening often enough that I have decided that I need to replace the bed in the den. I spoke to Henry at Flexus Comfort and to get our same bed in a twin would cost $1,200. I asked about his offerings with fewer latex layers and he indicated that a thinner mattress would not give me the same feel as the 13”. I really didn’t want to spend that much on a bed that isn’t slept on that often. I hadn’t read the forum in nearly 2 years, so I spent the last week getting reeducated.
I have been reading about the bed in a box phenomenon. I like the concept, but most of them are still more than I want to spend and most use memory foam which I am not a fan of. Still the concept seems pretty sound to me and so I decided to go the DIY route and see if I could figure out my own budget design. I noticed that many of the BIB offerings use a high quality poly foam base layer. I saw that mattresses.net had a 7” high quality poly base layer for only $149. I spoke to Ken and he felt that I would be hard pressed to feel the difference from a latex base. He recommended that I follow that with their 2” wavy latex topper followed by the 3” topper of my choice off of his website. This made a lot of sense to me. This would give me 5” of latex and 12” total mattress thickness. I priced this out adding their cotton mattress cover the total came to $603. That is not bad for a latex hybrid mattress! I haven’t found a hybrid mattress that has this much latex for such a low price. I was just about ready to pull the trigger and then I started wondering if I couldn’t lower the price just a bit without lowering the overall qualify. The one area where I thought I might save a couple of bucks was on the mattress cover. I am sure that the made to order one from mattresses.net is first rate, but the price was $129. I checked on Amazon and I found one that had great reviews for $32. It is made in China and not the US, but I am willing to take a chance especially with such good ratings. Next I looked at saving a couple of bucks on the 3” top layer. The layer I was looking at with mattresses.net was a 3” blended talalay that is priced at $178 plus shipping. Since I was already looking on Amazon I notice that they had the full natural Dunlop topper from Sleep on Latex for $149 shipped. So I am swapping a synthetic\natural latex layer for a natural latex layer and still saving money. This saved me and additional $29 plus $30 in shipping. I placed my orders Monday night and the total came out to $462.26.
I should receive everything by early next week, so we will see how it all works out.

Hi Schenkelini.

Welcome back to our Mattress Forum!

It’s nice to hear that you and your wife are still very happy with your Flexus mattress.. and congratulations on your new DIY Den twin mattress

Thanks for the update and for detailing your DIY bed and also for sharing your savings solutions. $463 is certainly a great price for a good quality 12” latex/poly combo. I’d be very curious to know how it works out for you and if you notice any difference in feel between the two types of latex. Your current mattress has a soft Talalay vs the NR Dunlop that you ordered from Sleep On Latex (one of our Trusted members here ). Some people seem to prefer the feel of one over the other but of course “habit” also may have some say in this.

I’d keep in mind that Dunlop has a different "feel" and performance than Talalay and is less lively or springy. You can see a comparison between them in post #7 here but in the end only your own experience will tell which one you prefer. 100% natural Dunlop is a denser material and even in lower ILD's it would be very durable. Because of the greater elasticity and performance of all natural Dunlop many people consider it to be better "value" than a synthetic or blended Dunlop although blended or synthetic Dunlop can also be a very good material that has many similarities to natural Dunlop and is also a very durable material. In terms of cost as you already noticed typically Talalay is a little pricier than Dunlop as it requires a different fabrication process which is more expensive.

I am looking forward to your updates once you receive all components and have a chance to test it.

Phoenix