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Getting closer to diy mattress build, need some advice please

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11 Jun 2018 15:01 - 11 Jun 2018 15:34 #101 by Phoenix
Hi Alpharalpha.

I take it back ... It's not impressive! :) But I am glad that the manufacturer you worked with was so responsive and went out of their way to help find the un-zoned L&P you desired. Provided that your DIY core support is appropriate for your needs then a topper could be a good option for fine-tuning the comfort.

I understand why you’d be “divided” between the two options and I’d try to see if the manufacturer can find a way to further help you maintain the ability to customize your DIY in case your desired construction turns out not to be quite right. I agree that whichever direction you chose to go, you'd have better chances of success by relying on their advice as they'd have much more experience to guide you to the best possible outcome. I'd also make sure to look at both options once more in the light of all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have if your choice doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for).

I’ll be interested in learning about your final decision.

Phoenix

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19 Jun 2018 13:49 #102 by Alpharalpha
I'm sorry, that must've got muddled. Leggett & Platt's regional manager is the one who got me the coil unit, the mattress manufacturer is just who L&P has to sell to as they don't sell direct to consumer. I decided to just get the coil unit and am very pleased with it. I've put it in a mattress encasement for now.
The thing now is I want to put 1" of hr foam on each side to finish it; there's the everflex 24 ild from foam order or foamonline has an hr foam in 20 ild, don't want to interfere too much with conforming of the coils. It's actually pretty comfortable just on the coils but I know it needs something to spread out the force as not to pop a coil. The wait times, both are in CA and have to wait until the can get around to filling the order etc. A long while back I had decided on Foamorder because they have a great warranty and were very transparent even sending me the Flex2000 spec sheet for the foam. Foamonline says he doesn't offer any warranty on the foam and no go on a detailed spec sheet. I know you are probably more familiar with foamonline, what have your experiences been? Do you think my foam ilds are ok? I plan on probably putting a topper over it anyways. Yea! finally getting this mattress put together :)
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20 Jun 2018 17:03 #103 by Phoenix
Hi Alpharalpha.

It seems that you are progressing nicely with your DIY. ;)
Thanks for adding the photos and for the clarification … again I am impressed that Leggett & Platt went out of their way to help a consumer.

Yes, it wouldn’t be good to sleep on the unit directly as the coils could easily become an issue because there is little above them to absorb the pressures of sleeping on the mattress.

Foamonline says he doesn't offer any warranty on the foam and no go on a detailed spec sheet. I know you are probably more familiar with foamonline, what have your experiences been?


You can always do a quick Forum Search (just click here ) to find discussions of other site memberss about foamonline. I haven't purchased from them, but I have talked with them in the past and while they don’t provide the speck sheets I found them to be knowledgeable and helpful on the phone. As you know they are one of the few that carry a selection of high-quality polyfoam in lower ILD's. All things equal, it makes good sense to go with the foam company that provides warranty over the one that doesn’t. As long as the ILDs you choose feel comfortable you (as you are the only one that can feel what you feel on the mattress) I don’t see any issue with your selection as it seems to be just enough to assist with the pressure distribution and comfort so that you won't feel the coils underneath.

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21 Jun 2018 16:25 - 23 Jun 2018 03:17 #104 by Alpharalpha
Hello,
I did a forum search on foamonline and noticed someone mentioned their foam had Ronco stamped on it, are you familiar with them? They have a 100% full 10 year warranty on their HR foams, I haven't got a price or spec' sheet from them yet. I guess Dave has his reasons for opting out of warranties. Probably will go with Foamorder though it could take awhile to get the order as the foams are rotated to which one they are cutting that day. And they're going to be making my 2 sided mattress cover. If they make the cover fit pretty snug do I still need to attach the foam to the coils to prevent it from bunching up? Thanks.
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04 Apr 2019 08:45 - 04 Apr 2019 09:10 #105 by Alpharalpha
Finally got the mattress finished, about 6 months ago; ended up going with the V24 (density: 2.6 lbs) from Foamorder in a 1" thick sheet for each side (38x80) it weighed in at 9.8 lbs so was fairly accurate as to the specs. Was moderately difficult aligning both sides of foam, coil unit with the mattress cover which was a 40/60 blend so fit snug with a bit of stretch. Then put a mattress encasement over that. It's very comfortable, any more than 1" and I think I'd lost the benefits of the coils. $500 total. Thanks for all the help I really appreciate it. Best wishes, Coyle.
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06 Apr 2019 14:25 #106 by Phoenix
Hi Alpharalpha.

Well done, congratulations on your new DIY, it really looks great!. :)

Thanks for the update, and $500!!! Really nice. It is always a little difficult with the cover, but as you said, both sides of foam, coil unit, and cover it can get a little tight and stiff in the beginning, but with some use the cover stretches and loosens a little more .... it all looks like it fits great.

Nicely done with your new DIY mattress let us know if you notice any changes over time.

Phoenix

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07 Sep 2019 07:52 - 07 Sep 2019 08:09 #107 by Alpharalpha
The mattress is holding up fine. The cover was actually very stretchy, the problem was when aligning the top and bottom 1" pieces of foam and then pulling the cover over to zip it up it'd pull the foam so had to move the foam more over to one side so when I pulled the cover over the foam would be in the right place; and the stretchy cover took some pulling on etc to get the seams all in the right places. If it had been a one sided build this wouldn't have been as difficult but having to keep both sides lined up with the springs and the cover being both tight and stretchy. The foam also had to be worked a bit to get it to fit the springs; I found that gently waving it and settling it down worked. The mattress was sliding around a lot on the KD frame as there's nothing holding the mattress in place and being 2 sided with the slick mattress encasement made it move more (and my using a gloss oil paint probably didn't help.) Fortunately the springs were a couple inches short and once all assembled I had enough room in-between the slats at the foot of the mattress to stick a couple pieces of covered very firm hr foam samples I had which wedged the mattress tight enough into the head/wall that it stays in place.
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12 Sep 2019 14:33 #108 by Sensei
Hey Alpharalpha,

I have to tell you that I have put on a few "zippered mattress covers" on in my day, and I could totally relate to all the maneuvering, pushing pulling, aligning...etc etc. And of course, nothing is ever the exactly right size.

Well done and creative, nice you had the covered HR foam wedges.

Thank you for coming back and updating the thread, it means a lot.

Thanks,
Sensei

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