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450 Pound Person Needs Help 29 Jul 2017 04:07 #1

Looking for help finding a company that can put together a mattress for a adjustable bed for a person that is 450 pounds.
I did find one company but their shipping was crazy expensive, $795 for inside and $500 for curbside delivery.

Here is what they suggested...
3” of 44ILD Talalay Latex for cushioned support, with a 3” firmer support layer of either 2.8 60 ILD or
3.0 60 ILD combined with a 4” base of either 2.5 60 ILD or 2.8 60 ILD or 3.0 60 ILD High Density Polyurethane foam. All layers are glued together.
They didn't say what the middle 3" layer is but by the description it appears to be High Density Polyurethane foam.

The cover is .25”Luxurious Micro-Lux Cotton Blended Fabric Cover A premium tone-on-tone Mattelaise fabric with four-way stretch ability.

The Talalay latex used in mattress manufacturing is a 40/60 blend of botanical rubber mixed with synthetic rubber. The addition of the synthetic allows more flexibility in producing the single ILDs used for mattress manufacturing. There is no chemical smell or out gassing.

They offer no trial period. Another thing that turned me off was they kept asking my address (for shipping price) and getting it wrong, wrong state...I correct that...then they would leave out part of my town's name, etc.

Also they knew my weight and keep changing the config of the materials and price. Their site had a "white glove special" for delivery at $109.00 but they told me that was a mistake and they were removing it but never did.
The person I spoke to appear to be a little wacky. Talked fast and constantly talked over you. This has nothing to do with the mattress but left me feeling uncomfortable from the first contact.

I did a lot of research on your site and the materials seem to be in the right direction.
Please help with some sources that are fair on price and delivery.

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Last edit: by lamont. Reason: wrong money amount

450 Pound Person Needs Help 29 Jul 2017 05:30 #2

I have no first hand experience with this company, but see that Absolute Comfort has a Comfort Max 400 hybrid latex/foam mattress specifically designed for those in the 300 to 400 pound range which might work for you. It is suitable for use with an adjustable base, and they offer a white glove delivery option for an additional $109. These models are considered as custom orders so there is no return option, but then they might be able to modify it slightly to better suit your weight. Hope this helps!

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450 Pound Person Needs Help 29 Jul 2017 06:08 #3

That is the company that the post is about! All over their sites it said White Glove delivery special for 109.00 but they claims it's a mistake. Since I told them a week ago that their site said 109.00 they have never fixed it claiming that they have one person doing the site and they don't have the time to correct it.

This is deceptive advertising.

I sent them a series of questions that I learned to ask from The Mattress Underground and I was not getting an answer. After calling I was told that the sales person has to have the "manager" approved the answers.

Also once I pushed for the answers I got an email with prices then 15 minutes later another email with different prices that were higher plus they said they need to order test foam and have a series of meetings concerning the order.

They claim to be experts in bariatric mattress but seem to be incompetent.

The whole thing smelled bad if you know what I mean.

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450 Pound Person Needs Help 29 Jul 2017 06:16 #4

Sorry about that, but I had no way of knowing since you didn't name the company that you were having problems dealing with.

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450 Pound Person Needs Help 29 Jul 2017 06:26 #5

No problem and thanks for helping.
I didn't know the policy about naming a company that is negative in their actions.
So now that it's out there maybe some of the others will chime in with some solutions.

I just got the adjustable bed and my mattress is a king Medicoil HD innerspring with a wired edge so it's no good for adjustable bed use. It's too bad since it's only a year old.

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450 Pound Person Needs Help 29 Jul 2017 07:15 #6

Hi Lamont
King Koil has the extended life series and both beds (Athens) I believe can be used on an adjustable base

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450 Pound Person Needs Help 29 Jul 2017 07:44 #7

Winkbeds also has a plus version that may work on adjustable base.
You obviously want to call these companies and make sure before buying and also make sure they are made with durable materials.

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450 Pound Person Needs Help 29 Jul 2017 08:34 #8

Thanks to Sweet Dreams and Ari for the suggestions. Please, anyone feel free to make suggestions so I can put a list together and reach out to these companies.

If anyone knows of independent factories that do custom latex and polyfoam, let me know.

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450 Pound Person Needs Help 29 Jul 2017 09:39 #9

you can call SleepEZ they are latex and terrific with configuration recommendations

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450 Pound Person Needs Help 30 Jul 2017 08:16 #10

Hi lamont,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :)

Regarding the company you were investigating, Absolute Comfort is part of the same group of companies as AbsoluteSleep.com, Ahhmemoryfoam.com, airbeddiscounters.com and usmemoryfoam.com

A forum search on absolutecomfort (you can just click this) will bring up more information and feedback about them. I would question the accuracy of their Dunlop ILD's if the density is accurate (see post #2 here for some rough density and ILD comparisons for 100% natural Dunlop) and in the past there has been some question to the accuracy of their information about their Talalay latex, although the information on their web site seems to be better now.

I’m not sure why you were given such different shipping information (wow), as I completed an order online for them (short of entering the credit card information) and the shipping was built-in to the price of the mattress with no extra fees, although the White Glove special that you mentioned was not an option in ordering (I do see it is still prominently displayed on their website). Combined with the inconsistencies you’ve experienced, I can't object to your gut feeling to move on.

I just got the adjustable bed and my mattress is a king Medicoil HD innerspring with a wired edge so it's no good for adjustable bed use. It's too bad since it's only a year old.


You are correct that the Therapedic MediCoil HD line is not meant to be paired with a power foundation, and while the specifications can vary between licensees, there usually isn’t a border rod use with the innerspring unit and the common reason for not being adjustable friendly is that the helical lacing of the spring unit runs head to toe and the edge foam encasement is not cut to allow it to bend. But you may have an item that does contain a border rod, and of course this would also preclude adjustable bed use.


For products more appropriate for your BMI, I would begin by reading post #3 here has quite a bit more information and suggestions about heavier weights that is worth reading. I don’t keep a particular listing for mattresses marketed toward higher BMI individuals, as many of them contain componentry that I don’t recommend for individuals with a higher BMI, and it’s more appropriate to focus on the componentry within the mattress, which can make it both a durable product for higher BMIs, as well as other individuals.

A high BMI presents special challenges and generally requires firmer materials (in the support layers especially). This could be firmer latex or innersprings (the type of support component would be a personal preference and in the right design either could be suitable) or even a zoned construction. The same overall guidelines apply with higher weights though that PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) along with using high quality durable materials that will maintain their feel and performance for longer periods of time are the way to make the best choices. Heavier people in general will need firmer and thicker comfort layers and firmer support layers than those who are lighter and because no materials will last as long with much higher weights the quality and durability of the materials and components is even more important than normal. I wouldn't "rule out" any types of mattress and base your choices on your own personal testing.

If anyone knows of independent factories that do custom latex and polyfoam, let me know.


A good place to start would be the site membership here , and many of these manufacturers offer latex items and are experienced with the components and arrangements that tend to work well with higher BMI individuals. Looking for online options, at a quick glance Arizona Premium Mattress Co, Cozy Pure, Dormio, Flexus, FloBeds, FoamSweetFoam, Latex Mattress Factory, Luma Sleep, My Green Mattress, Nest Bedding, Rocky Mountain Mattress, Sleep EZ, Sleep on Latex, Sleeping Organic, Soaring Heart, and Spindle offer latex products that may suit your needs. At least that’s a good list to begin your search, and after perusing their web sites a follow-up phone call would be your next course of action to any business in which you had an interest.

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