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06 Jul 2018 10:12 #21 by NestHaven

Thank you again, Phoenix. I simply wanted to circle back with you to see if you've heard anything from Nest yet. No rush - merely curious.

Much appreciated!

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06 Jul 2018 22:28 #22 by Phoenix

Hi NestHaven.

I sent Nest a reminder note.
They are very good at replying quickly, I'll let you know of the status soon.

Phoenix


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07 Jul 2018 10:29 #23 by NestHaven

Much appreciated, Phoenix!

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10 Jul 2018 08:58 #24 by NestHaven

Hi Phoenix,

Hopefully I'm not pestering you with this. I'm assuming that Nest has delayed the rollout of their revised lineup, yes? I don't see any updates on their website yet. No worries or rush, as I know you're on this. Whenever you get an update from them, we'd appreciate it.

We still have about 40 days left in our 100-day trial period, so there's time left for us to weigh our decision based on the revised lineup.

Thank you!

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11 Jul 2018 13:52 - 13 Jul 2018 17:08 #25 by Phoenix

Hi NestHeaven,

Thanks for your patience… Good news… fresh from the “Nest”! :)

The new lines are shipped and on their way to all showrooms. If they did not arrive, then it is expected that they’ll be in by the end of the week. While I am not sure when Nest will update their website site with the new specs, they promptly provided them for you to make sure you have all options available for testing and comparing for suitability.
Below find the soft versions that you are interested in but once they have a chance they’ll update us with the ILDs for the other firmness choices as well and I’ll return to post them here.
Note Below are updated specs as of July 13, 5:00 PM PST

NEW REWORKED Line: (16") NEST HYBRID LATEX NATURAL (Non-Organic)

Cover: Organic Cotton Stretch Knit Fabric / FR Material: Rayon Fiber FR
Quilt: 2”  Eco Flex Memory Foam Quilting 1.5lb Density 15ILD foam
SOFT: Blended Dunlop Latex
-3” 16 ILD Blended Dunlop Latex
-2” 23 ILD
-8" CPE Steel Edge L&P ~ 660 Pocket Coil Unit
-1” 50 ILD PolyFoam @ 1.8 lb
FIRM:
-3” 36ILD Blended Dunlop Latex
-2” 23 ILD
-8" CPE Steel Edge L&P ~ 660 Pocket Coil Unit
-1” 50 ILD PolyFoam @ 1.8 lb
Note: Split layer for dual comfort available

NEW REWORKED Line (15") NEST HYBRID LATEX ORGANIC
1" Quilted Cover: GOTS Organic Cotton Fabric / FR Material & Quilt: GOTS Certified Wool Batting
SOFT: GOLS Certified
-3” 16 ILD 100% NR Dunlop Latex (Organic)
-1” 36 ILD 100% NR Dunlop Latex (Organic)
-8" CPE Steel Edge L&P ~ 660 Pocket Coil Unit
-2” 36 ILD 100% NR Dunlop Latex (Organic)
FIRM:
-3” 36 ILD 100% NR Dunlop Latex (Organic)
-1” 36 ILD 100% NR Dunlop Latex (Organic)
-8" CPE Steel Edge L&P ~ 660 Pocket Coil Unit
-2” 36 ILD 100% NR Dunlop Latex (Organic)
Note: Split layer for dual comfort available

I’d be interested to learn about your firsthand experience with the reworked lines and if these work better for you
Good luck!

Phoenix


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Last Edit: 13 Jul 2018 17:08 by Phoenix. Reason: Updating specs

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11 Jul 2018 14:30 #26 by dhunn

Any pricing info? I am waiting to be notified by showroom when these will be available to try as i am exchanging Luxury Contour (memory foam) for a bit firmer Nest..,

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11 Jul 2018 17:35 - 11 Jul 2018 19:05 #27 by Phoenix

Hi dhunn.

Welcome to our forum! :)

Here are the updated prices:

NATURAL Hybrid ~ $999 Queen ($699 for Twin)
ORGANIC Hybrid ~ $1899 Queen ($1599 for Twin)
The All Latex pricing will stay the same as with the Q3 All Latex

Phoenix


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Last Edit: 11 Jul 2018 19:05 by Phoenix. Reason: Adding extra info for pricing

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12 Jul 2018 11:13 #28 by chiefdale

Phoenix,
What are your thoughts on these Specs versus what was being offered with Nest?? Do you see this as an improvement?

What is going to be the biggest difference in feel or quality of the organic vs the natural?

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12 Jul 2018 13:29 #29 by NestHaven

Thank you so much for those specs, Phoenix. Definitely gives us something to consider, and we hope to try out these reworked versions in their store.

Like chiefdale inquired, I'm also curious about what your thoughts are on these reworked versions. The reworked Organic Hybrid Latex version is likely a little too pricey for us (as we purchased both Queen and Full mattresses from Nest). Also, I'm thinking the 14ILD Dunlop latex is going to be too soft, since I found the 19ILD Talalay latex topper to be too soft for my back support. I'm assuming the Medium Dunlop will be similar to what we have with our current 28ILD Talalay latex mattresses, yes, as far as firmness goes (relatively speaking, of course)?

The reworked Natural Hybrid Latex might be a bit more appealing/suitable for us. Again, I don't think we'd be able to do the 14ILD Dunlop (simply too soft). The 1.5” Eco Flex Memory Foam Quilting 1.5lb Density top layer is interesting - though I'm a little concerned about the longevity of the 1.5lb memory foam. Usually we're looking for a 1.8lb minimum density on a top layer, no? I'm not sure if that would give out too quickly. Additionally, since I tend to sleep hot, I'm worried that the Eco Flex Memory Foam might not be cool enough for us as well (compared to the wool/cotton layer on our current mattresses).

Also, Phoenix - curious about Nest's switch back to Dunlop latex. I know their original Hybrid Latex mattress used Dunlop, though some people found that too firm, so Nest switched to Talalay. Now, they are switching back to Dunlop. If you happen to know why they switched back to Dunlop latex, I'd be interested in that explanation, for sure.

Lastly, Phoenix, are the coils on these reworked models still the combi-zone version like the current Hybrid Latex mattress?

Dhunn - if it's worth anything, I would suggest trying to secure the current version of Nest's Hybrid Latex mattress if you can - either in the 28ILD Talalay latex Medium version or the firmer version. Nest accidentally shipped us a 32ILD Talalay latex on our Full mattress, which they promptly replaced with a 28ILD layer instead, and that was definitely firmer than the 28ILD layer. I think it will provide you with a nice, firmer support (though, as Phoenix says, each person's individual experience is different). As I noted above, I'm a little hesitant with the reworked offerings - and am interested to see what Phoenix thinks of these revised specs. Hope that helps.

Thank you again, Phoenix, for securing this information!

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13 Jul 2018 15:36 #30 by nestbedding

Hi, jumping in to help shed some light.

The 1.5 is more porous and more breathable than denser foam in the quilted layer. 1.5" of foam isn't usually an issue since its so thin, and it's there to add a bit of comfort between the latex and your body. I did this because frankly I find a lot of people like the notion of latex but having never slept on it find its a little too firm. Of course we leave this out on the Organic version.

On the firm version of the Natural Hybrid Latex you have 3" 36 ILD Dunlop and 2" 23 ILD. All latex bed it's 36 ILD's on the firms as well.

I am trying to make these beds extremely competitive price-wise for customers, while also providing a comfortable and durable bed. I have been using 1.5 in quilted layer for years and have not consistently seen an issue, hence putting my money where my mouth is and saying I will replace it the lifetime of the bed.

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