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I don’t trust my judgment so hopefully figuring out how to objectively test pressure relief and alignment will help.
I understand why you'd have misgivings ... “good judgment” needs to be exercised as it usually comes in different “data packets” consisting of non-equivocal facts and knowing how to interpret them which, of course, is where some research and some good information comes handy... and with consulting your body to understand its needs and preferences all of which need some processing time. Our bodies are very intelligent and if we “listen” to them we can quickly learn their language. ... if however, you're used to overriding its signals it may take a little longer.
To learn about pressure relief and support and how to test for each ....there is more about primary or "deep" support and secondary or "surface" support and their relationship to firmness and pressure relief and the "roles" of different layers in a mattress in post #2 here and in post #4 here that may also be helpful in clarifying the difference between "support" and "pressure relief" and "feel" also [url=To learn about pressure relief and support, there is more about primary or "deep" support and secondary or "surface" support and their relationship to firmness and pressure relief and the "roles" of different layers in a mattress in post #2 here and in post #4 here that may also be helpful in clarifying the difference between "support" and "pressure relief" and "feel" and post #6 here has some good information as well. The good news is that if you are still unsure after your local testing ,.. many companies are offering their guidance in the selection process and also allow for mattress in-home testing for long enough to help you determine if it is a good match. The challenge here is to determine which of the companies you're considering have your best interest at heart and which are just profit making machines.
Almost all mattresses I lay on in stores seem good and I just end up leaving more confused.
Regardless of how good they feel in the shop... once you are in touch with your body some will feel better than the others and the local testing will give enough data points to move you along with your deicion. This combined with selecting durable materials, for the 5-10 years mattress useful life criteria the that you mentioned in your previous post, and with some guidance from the manufacturer/retailer themselves would have the best chance of success.
I hope your research on the site has included following the guidelines in the mattress shopping tutorial as well.
My question is Tim from Richmond Bedding states Therapedic manufacturer doesn't release what "grade" the Poly foams are. He only talks about the cores of both mattresses. If Therapedic doesn't release any information to the stores selling the mattresses how can we as consumers make an informed decision on whether the materials are a great quality at a good value? Thanks for any help!
Here is my original e-mail I sent to the stores.
My wife and I are in the market for a new King size mattress set. I wanted to see if you could tell me the specifics on the TheraPedic Rebecca? What type of foam is used in each layer(Polyfoam, Memory foam, or Latex) and what lbs foam is used in each? If polyfoam is used what grade? Do you know the ILD for the comfort layer? I see the core is a coil system. What type of coil system is used (pocket coil or something different)? Any other information that you think might be helpful? Do you know how this mattress compares to the TheraPedic Buckingham sold by Wyatt-Ogg in West Point? here is the link to the specific mattress - www.wyattoggfurniture.com/products/thera...uckinghametking.html .
TheraPedic Rebecca - LAYERS
Fire Resistant Barrier
Super Soft Comfort Foam
2.4” Wrapped Coil MicroTopper, 1353* Coils
Plush Comfort Foam
800* Wrapped Coil Unit
High Density Support Foam
Entirely Foam Encased
Thank you very much for you help.
Here is the e-mail response I received from Wyatt Ogg:
Good afternoon Matt,
The Buckingham ET mattress from Therapedic has all poly foam that ranges from 1.2lb to 1.8lb in densities. The ILD’s range from 10 to 30 with the softest at the surface. The coil system is a Superlastic pro coil system.
Let us know if you have any questions. Have a great weekend!
And Richmond Bedding:
The Buckingham isn't nearly the quality of the Rebecca. First, it's only 630 Coils which is pretty low, ours is 800. And the coils in the Buckingham are continuous coils not wrapped coils. The coils in the Rebecca are described in the listing on our website and you copied them to this email. "Wrapped" coils are the same thing as "Pocketed" coils. Wrapped MicroCoils are another set of springs in the comfort layer. 1352 of them in a Queen. All coils counts from manufacturers are based on Queen size. The manufacturer doesn't release what "grade" the Poly foams are and ILD isn't used to measure Poly foams only Latex. If a mattress description simply says "foam" that means Poly.
If it were Memory, Gel or Latex it would say so.
Thanks for your time,
Tim Hiles - Owner
Welcome to the mattress forum .
Thank you for your post, you bring up some really important issues in the mattress buying process. This question you post is really at the crux of everything TMU is about.
If Therapedic doesn't release any information to the stores selling the mattresses how can we as consumers make an informed decision on whether the materials are a great quality at a good value? Thanks for any help!
As a general rule, many mattress companies do not want you to have the knowledge and information to make informed choices. This is part of the "racket" of the mattress industry. Now they have reasons like "our competitors will copy us" and "this will commoditize our industry" blah blah blah!! As you can see in our updated article Major Mattress Manufacturers - Top 20 , Therapedic is #7 on this list, everyone of these companies is given a "POOR" rating for "Specification Transparency".
I just want to make sure I give a positive shout out to Tim at Richmond Bedding because his answer is spot on. As you probably know Richmond Bedding is a Trusted Member of TMU, which means - TMU members compete with any of the more well-known brands in terms of their quality, value, service, knowledge, and transparency. All of the member companies mattresses use high-quality materials and there are no lower quality materials or weak links in any of them so they would certainly make a great quality/value choice.
Please let us know if you have any other questions, and of course, you can also talk to Richmond Bedding on the Richmond Bedding expert thread .
Thanks again for the post.