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Can't figure out how to stomach sleep easy on a sleepEZ mattress 23 Sep 2017 23:40 #1

I've been on a sleep ez for almost 5 weeks now and I'm still struggling. Migrating from a Sealy Beachside latex mattress which I loved for 8 years, I picked up a Sleepez 9inch organic all talalay. First config was all talalay soft up top 2 inch, medium firm 3 inch and firm 3 inch. Tried various configurations, had lower back pain in the morning in any configuration I tried.

Finally switched out the soft and medium layer for a 2 inch medium talalay and a 3 inch extra firm dunlop. I'm currently sleeping on 2 inch medium talalay, 3 inch firm talalay, and 3 inch extra firm dunlop. Still getting lower back pain in the morning which goes away as soon as I stand up. I'm so frustrated cause I love the company and customer service and I'm getting concerned I won't be able how to figure out a layer configuration so I don't wake up in pain and I'll have to return the mattress (which there's no way I'll refit those layers back into the boxes without figuring out how to vacuum seal them in haha)

The craziest thing is that I'm not a heavy person. I'm 5'6 and 155lb in good shape (good core strength and lift weights). I wouldn't expect to need much support.

Going to sleep one more time tonight on the medium, firm, extra firm config and then switch to either:
Medium, Xtra firm, Xtra firm.
or
Firm, Xtra firm, and medium on bottom of matress.

I'm not sure what else to do and I'm worried if I go too firm I'll eventually start feeling shoulders go numb or something....

I wish there was a way to train my body to sleep on it's side or back cause I feel like all my problems would be gone if so.

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Can't figure out how to stomach sleep easy on a sleepEZ mattress 24 Sep 2017 05:30 #2

I'm so frustrated cause I love the company and customer service and I'm getting concerned I won't be able how to figure out a layer configuration so I don't wake up in pain and I'll have to return the mattress (which there's no way I'll refit those layers back into the boxes without figuring out how to vacuum seal them in haha)


Sorry about the difficulty you're having finding a comfortable configuration, but if you end up having to return it I thought the following video on how to repack latex layers including vacuum compression would be helpful and one less thing you'd have to worry about: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TduN3jU9488

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Can't figure out how to stomach sleep easy on a sleepEZ mattress 24 Sep 2017 09:02 #3

Thanks for the video. If I can't find a good layer config. What would you say I should do? Try out spring mattresses?
The prob is most matress stores near me in Rochester NY carry sealy, serta, and beauty rest

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Can't figure out how to stomach sleep easy on a sleepEZ mattress 24 Sep 2017 11:05 #4

I wish I could be more helpful but can only share my experience which may not apply to your needs or preferences. When I've experienced lower back pain it's not immediately noticeable when lying on the mattress but I wake up with it after an extended period. My lower back pain has been caused by a lack of adequate support causing my back to slightly arch, but I'm primarily a side sleeper and at 6'4 and 270 lbs. very different than your significantly more slender build.

Phoenix may be able to assist you further regarding suggested layer configurations which can also be very subjective and unique to different individuals. My problem is that when I find a mattress firm enough to maintain my alignment it is generally too hard and non-conforming resulting in bad pressure point pain in my arms and shoulders. It can be very difficult to find a perfect balance - I think I may just have to buy a mattress store to be able to find a solution! Good luck with your situation and I hope you're able to find a combination which works well for you. I'd recommend staying away from the major brands that you mentioned as they tend to use inferior quality materials which are known for breaking down prematurely.

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Can't figure out how to stomach sleep easy on a sleepEZ mattress 24 Sep 2017 13:32 #5

Thanks. I agree. I can't test a matress effectively like you said cause I don't know it will hurt me till after 5 hours of sleep. I'm really bummed cause I don't wanna keep having to switch out layers and I'm sure sleepez doesn't want me doing that either.

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Can't figure out how to stomach sleep easy on a sleepEZ mattress 24 Sep 2017 13:39 #6

Hi Csj0952,

If you sleep truly prone, as you may be aware, this is the worst posture for your lumbar region, regardless of core strength. Everyone needs good deep support to assist with alignment. Your muscles relax a bit when sleeping at night, so maintenance of alignment falls mostly to the mattress itself. If you currently are testing the Mt, Ft, XFt and still finding that you have low back issues, the next configuration I would attempt would be Ft, Mt, XFt. This could allow a bit more surface firmness and still some plushness and “give” of the top layer. Also, be sure that your pillow is not too thick (if you’re using one), as this can also accentuate low back issues.

I’d be interested to learn how you would feel on this configuration.

Also, I’m not sure what you’re placing our new mattress upon, but make sure that it is a flat and firm surface as well.

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Can't figure out how to stomach sleep easy on a sleepEZ mattress 26 Sep 2017 14:31 #7

So the first night of sleeping on talalay firm on top, talalay medium in middle and Dunlop firm on bottom felt alittle better than previous medium on top. However still woke with lower back aches (which is a great natural alarm clock). Standing up the pain went away considerably. The 2nd night (last night) I tried to experiment putting a beach towel folded up 3 times (about a half inch thick) under my pelvis to see if that would help but it didn't and made me hurt alittle more than the previous night. I'm at the point where I would hire someone to X-ray my spine and me in bed to disgnose what's going on. It even hurts to lay on my back in the morning after I've woken up. Cause how can I be struggling to sleep on a technologically superior matress compared to my old sealy beachside.

One of the things thou the sealy did have was that it was not flat. It had a firmer buttoned pillow top on it of crappy foam. I'm wondering if that foam though somehow provided better posture alignment allowing me to sink into the matress rather than lay on top of it.

I'd rather lay on top of a matress cause it's cooler but maybe my spine is naturally curved in a way that doesn't allow that. Or maybe I need to sleep on a matress in pain to get my spine to realign straight for a couple months?

I'm willing to spend more money to replace layers and such or get a different matress. I just want to get to a point where I can get a good nights sleep without pain in the morning. I'm not sure where to go or who to talk to. I'll try again tonight to sleep without the towel under me.

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Can't figure out how to stomach sleep easy on a sleepEZ mattress 26 Sep 2017 15:05 #8

Hi Csj0952,

The slightly firmer upper layer was an improvement, but you’re still not there, so if this configuration doesn’t work out the next logical configuration I’d suggest with what you have would be the Ft, XFt, Mt. It is true that you may not have an affinity for the point elasticity that latex, specifically Talalay, offers as compared to your old more traditional mattress using springs and polyfoam. And you are also correct that there is some “learned alignment” that you may need to overcome as you adjust to a new mattress. But that shouldn’t take months. ;)

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Can't figure out how to stomach sleep easy on a sleepEZ mattress 27 Sep 2017 17:01 #9

Tried Firm, Xfirm, medium last night, it was better. Hoping tonight will be better yet. Keep in mind Sealy beachside matress was 9 inches of dunlop latex plus 2 in of polyfoam on top I believe. I haven't been on springs since i was a kid but I'm thinking that may be my next direction as it's the only thing left i can try out in person at a store.

I'm guessing I could do a foam replacement of the medium talay for a firm or even extra firm talaly and let that be my upper layer when it arrives.

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Can't figure out how to stomach sleep easy on a sleepEZ mattress 28 Sep 2017 10:15 #10

Hi Csj0952,

Tried Firm, Xfirm, medium last night, it was better. Hoping tonight will be better yet.


That’s good news. I know it is only one night, but you’re moving more in the direction we talked about back in May to a firmer upper comfort layer for stomach sleeping.

Keep in mind Sealy beachside matress was 9 inches of dunlop latex plus 2 in of polyfoam on top I believe.


Your old mattress used 3” of low density polyfoam on top of a synthetic Dunlop core (which unfortunately didn’t have a great track history). I posted those specifications in one of my replies to you back in May if you’d like to see them again. I got confused for a second when I replied to you yesterday and thought I read “BackSaver” instead of “Beachside” in your post. The BackSaver was an innerspring line. My bad. :S

I haven't been on springs since i was a kid but I'm thinking that may be my next direction as it's the only thing left i can try out in person at a store.


That certainly could be an option, but as I mentioned previously I don’t know that it would specifically be the solution, You’d need to make sure that whatever material you’re using on top would be firmer, and perhaps less point elastic.

I'm guessing I could do a foam replacement of the medium talay for a firm or even extra firm talaly and let that be my upper layer when it arrives.


Yes, you could try a Firm/Firm/Extra Firm (or rearrange to Firm/Extra Firm/Firm), or even a Firm/Extra Firm/Extra Firm.

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