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Narrowed down to Nest Bedding Hybrid Latex....extra questions?

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15 Mar 2019 14:04 #21 by tomford4u
My partner and I, after a good deal of searching, seem to agree that the Nest Bedding Hybrid Latex (firm) is the best out of the box mattress for us. However I would love to recreate this mattress with a zoned coil layer instead. For some reason we feel like Goldilocks in that all the mattress we've tried are either too firm, too soft, or both. We are both primarily side sleepers and either our hips sag too much or our shoulders are crunched, so I really believe a zoned bed would help fix this issue. One of the things we liked the most about the Nest Bedding Hybrid Latex was the plushness of first 2" (cover and first layer of quilting). Please could anyone recommend components including a zoned coil system that would be close in feel to the Nest Bedding Hybrid Latex (firm)? I am 5'9" 180lbs (M) and my partner is 5'5" 130lbs (F). I appreciate any help and guidance.

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15 Mar 2019 17:20 #22 by sweetandsourkiwi
I cannot personally recommend components, although there is a zoned coil base on Arizona Premium Mattress and the dunlop layer could be sourced from a number of suppliers like Sleep Ez. Not sure on the base, quilting, and transition foam, although you could go more all-natural/durable and source latex layers to approximate these.

I'm considering this bed as a side sleeper. I am curious how your partner is finding the bed for side sleeping as she is my size and weight—is the issue too much shoulder pressure or hip sinkage for her?

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16 Mar 2019 11:41 #23 by sweetandsourkiwi
I want to ask another question about Nest Bedding but cannot find a good thread for it, so here goes...

TMU lists that memory foam should not go under 4lbs to be good quality. Yet the Nest Signature Hybrid transition foam goes all the way down to 3lbs. As a TMU member, none of their mattresses should have a weak link...but wouldn't this be a weak link?

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16 Mar 2019 21:27 - 16 Mar 2019 21:30 #24 by lotus14
Earlier in this thread an issue with mold was mentioned on platforms without ventilation. My mattress is on an adjustable base that provides no ventilation that I can see.

My previous hybrid mattress had no problem, though it slept very hot. Should I be worried about an all latex mattress on this base? I have little to no issues with sleeping hot with latex so far but it's still cool weather. I am in very humid SC.

Also, how do you start a new thread in General Discussion?
Last edit: 16 Mar 2019 21:30 by lotus14. Reason: Additional Question

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20 Mar 2019 08:02 #25 by Sensei
Hi tomford4u,

Welcome to the forum :).

I have always loved the image of goldilocks during the mattress buying process, I have done it and seen it so many times with consumers.

I would like to provide a little caution to the thought of "recreate this mattress with a zoned coil layer instead". Unless Nest Bedding was going to do this for you personally, keeping all other variables exactly the same, you are essentially just trying a new mattress. There are too many variables.

Mattress manufacturers generally try to differentiate their mattress from the mattresses made by other manufacturers and don't normally try to "match" another mattress that is made by a different manufacturer so unless a manufacturer specifically says in their description of a mattress that one of their mattresses in the same general category is specifically designed to "match" or "approximate" another one in terms of firmness or "feel" and PPP and/or they are very familiar with both mattresses and can provide reliable guidance about how they compare based on the "averages" of a larger group of people that have compared them (different people may have very different opinions about how two mattresses compare) ... the only reliable way to know for certain how two mattresses would compare for you in terms of how they "feel" or in terms of firmness or PPP (regardless of anyone else's opinions of how they compare which may be different from your own) would be based on your own careful testing or actual sleeping experience on both of them.

The coil systems used in Nest and used in other units of our trusted members like Arizona Premium and Luma Sleep are very high quality products. But when one puts up to 4 or 5 inches of high quality comfort layers above the coil system, the zoning effect from the "core" is minimal, if not useless that far below the surface.

If you are so inclined there is more reading about zoning in these links. This article and post #11 here and post #2 here.

Thank you again for your post.

Sensei

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20 Mar 2019 08:12 #26 by Nirvana
Does this mean that a mattress like ZenHaven without coils may be comparable in feel?

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20 Mar 2019 08:15 #27 by Sensei
Hey Nirvana,

No I wasn't referencing Zenhaven, I was only making general observations about comparing and matching feels.

Thanks.

Sensei

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20 Mar 2019 08:22 #28 by Nirvana
understood, but you seem to say that "when one puts up to 4 or 5 inches of high quality comfort layers above the coil system, the zoning effect from the "core" is minimal, if not useless that far below the surface." I am filled with angst becuase the idea of latex is appealing but I have never had a mattress without springs.

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20 Mar 2019 10:41 #29 by sweetandsourkiwi
I'm glad you responded, Sensei. I've been thinking a lot about zoning too. It seems to help me in the hip region of the Zenhaven...when my hip doesn't feel enough support (ie, once my shoulder is finally happy), my back starts to spasm and the band across the top of my hips (on the back) starts to seize up. Luma told me yesterday on the phone I would adjust to not having zoned support but it's so painful I'm not sure I actually would. I am 95% side sleeper, average 135lb 5'4" female shape.

I love everything about all-latex mattresses except the lack of zoning options under $2k. Question: could you just slip a board or two under the mattress in the hip region? Would that work for extra hip support?

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24 Mar 2019 09:00 #30 by Sensei
Hey sweetandsourkiwi,

I have to say the "plywood" as firmed up many a mattress over the years for consumers, I personally have not read about it being used for support in a specific region. Of course, it will "work" in some form and fashion, and is certainly worth trying. I can check with Phoenix and see if any other information may be around the TMU site.

Thanks,

Sensei

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