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Rejuvenate Mattress Information

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03 Apr 2019 19:30 #1 by Eagle_traveler
Hello Phoenix,

I tried to get more info on the Rejuvenate and his is what I was able to get when I contacted them:

“Top 1’ is the copper infused, vented natural latex.
Under that 1” cool gel
Under that 3’ transition layer (firm or softer zone, Your option)
5” High density memory foam.

Cool tech is the best in the business. Bamboo, Celliant, Copper, latex, Cool gel, venting,”

When I asked for the foam density, I was told this is proprietary info but got this:

“Foam density was a quality determination previously.
The industry struggles to have any comparisons data to help customers with.

Since then we now make foams with lighter materials that are higher density and last longer.
So a 4lb foam may underperform a 3lb.

Also foam makers were adding fillers like sand to bump up the weights to trick
Customers into thinking the foam would last longer.”

I was wondering what you think?

Thanks

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08 Apr 2019 13:59 #2 by Phoenix
Hi Eagle_traveler,

Sorry for the delayed reply. Sensei moved the post to its own topic and was not clear who will reply to the post.

Well done trying to find the information and asking the questions about density. Of course, they have every right to say it’s “proprietary” information, but their response is a bit more than suspicious. I am curious who gave you this information? ... the retailer or the mattress manufacturer?

The copper-infused latex is a good product, of course, curious what ILD it is? But without foam densities, I would be cautious with proceeding with this product. The 1” gel and the 3" transition layers of unknown densities make it impossible for us to comment in any meaningful way.

Foam density was a quality determination previously.
The industry struggles to have any comparisons data to help customers with.
Since then we now make foams with lighter materials that are higher density and last longer.
So a 4lb foam may underperform a 3lb.
Also foam makers were adding fillers like sand to bump up the weights to trick
Customers into thinking the foam would last longer.


To say foam density is not a quality determination is simply wrong. There has been a long history of scientific quantitative and qualitative data showing that higher density foams last much longer. Making foams with “lighter materials that are higher density” ???... I don't really understand what they mean with this statement ... again scientifically speaking density is a weight equation:
As far as the additives ... when there are fillers added to memory foam or polyfoam it's difficult to know the effect it will have on durability. Foam companies can make formula changes and add fillers to give foams certain properties to some of their specialty products ... I am also sure some of these "modifications" can also be requested to purely to increase foam density, but one would need to be more specific to make any credible argument. Unsupported, blank statements like these are the the reason I always strongly recommend that consumers ask questions and talk to any of our trusted members and experts who have a wealth of knowledge and years of experience behind their products and understand the effect of any change they make on their product designs.

Great to see that you are doing your due diligence and thanks for sharing.

Phoenix

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12 Apr 2019 15:36 #3 by Eagle_traveler
Thanks for your input! I appreciate :)

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14 Apr 2019 20:13 #4 by Phoenix
Hi Eagle_traveler.

You are very welcome! I'd be curious to know what you decided... and as always let us know if you have any other questions.

Phoenix

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