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Stress-O-Pedic Chateau Christelle

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16 Apr 2019 11:17 #1 by Peep
Hi Phoenix and everyone,

I hope it's ok to bump an old thread. I am unfortunately continuing my mattress journey and am also considering a Stress O Pedic.

The sales rep at my local LA Matress was one of the best I've dealt with in terms of asking me all the right questions about my sleep needs while guiding me to sleep systems and eliminating bad options for me. I was pleasenlty surprised since this is a local chain. I let him do his thing and he lead me to the Stress O Pedic Chateau line.

The mattress I'm looking at is $1000 Chateau Christelle "pillow top." He was unable and unwilling to get me the layer information telling me the info doesn't matter. I even told him if he contacted the manufacturer, I would buy from him. He didn't, so I did and I found the following info:

Cotton cover
"Freudenberg" Fire Barrier ("Celestia?" Likely a rayon silicone fr)
Quiltflex Topper Foam - 3/4" (unknown density, probably 1.5)
19 ILD Talalay Latex - 1 "
1.8 lb REFLEX(r) Foam - 3.5"
621 Pocketed Coil 14 Guage - 8"

I can't find much online about this brand but it seems as though there are no potential weak links in this product in particular. I'm mainly concerned about future indentations in the "pillow top." And degradation of the edge support.

Is this product worth considering? It fits my PPP as far as I could tell on my 20-30 minutes on it. This shop doesn't have a return policy, only an exchange, and I want to be secure in my choice.

Thanks

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17 Apr 2019 14:44 - 18 Apr 2019 00:07 #2 by Peep
Alternatively, I'm considering a Bella Euro Top from PJ Sleep. It's a 15.5" - 9" pocket coil, 3" of 3lbs low voc poly foam, 2" of 60 ild Dunlop and 1.5" of foam quilting up top. It was a very nice mattress and I spent a considerable amount of time in their showroom. Anyone in the LA area should highly consider stopping by.
Last edit: 18 Apr 2019 00:07 by Peep. Reason: Typos and clarification

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17 Apr 2019 18:56 - 17 Apr 2019 19:09 #3 by Phoenix
Hi peep,

Welcome back to the forum :).

Thanks for the post. I moved to a new thread to highlight the product we are discussing.

Stressopedic is a well-known manufacturer on the west coast, with a good reputation in the industry. As I was looking for the Chateau Collection (details from their site are listed below) on the Stressopedic website, I am assuming the “pillow top” is the Latex Plush T/T unit. It’s too bad the retail sales associate, who you thought was very good, could not help with the specs. You being a well versed TMU member knew to go to the source and get the information.

“Cotton cover
"Freudenberg" Fire Barrier ("Celestia?" Likely a rayon silicone fr)
Quiltflex Topper Foam - 3/4" (unknown density, probably 1.5)
19 ILD Talalay Latex - 1 "
1.8 lb REFLEX(r) Foam - 3.5"
621 Pocketed Coil 14 Guage - 8"


Both the Freudenberg FR cover and the Quiltflex by FXI (formerly Foamex) have been around since the early/mid-2000s. Both well-known products and brands. Interestingly enough Stressopedic was the first manufacturer to use the Freudenberg FR solution back in 2005 - Furniture Today article .

I agree with your assessment that there seem to be no weak links as listed above. You have read the durability guidelines so we are on the same page. The Quiltflex foam is better than some commonly used polyester products in mattress quilts, so you will have some expected degradation over time, but nothing outside the acceptable standards. The pocketed coils are also good quality and edge support seems to be good as well. Take as much time as you need, and let us know if you have any other questions.

Thanks again for posting, we look forward to your update.

Phoenix

Product Info as listed on Stressopedic website:
Christelle Latex X-Firm T/T
Comfort Layers:
High-Density Polyurethane, Latex
Innerspring:
616 FE Marshall Unit
FOUNDATION:
No Sag/No Sway Custom Engineered Support System
Ultra Premium Buckskin Suede Border
Christelle Latex Plush T/T
Comfort Layers:
High-Density Polyurethane, Latex
Innerspring:
546 FE Marshall Unit
FOUNDATION:
No Sag/No Sway Custom Engineered Support System
Ultra Premium Buckskin Suede Border
Christelle Latex P/T
Comfort Layers:
High-Density Polyurethane, Latex, Quilt-Flex ®
Innerspring:
546 FE Marshall Unit
FOUNDATION:
No Sag/No Sway Custom Engineered Support System
Ultra Premium Buckskin Suede Border

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Last edit: 17 Apr 2019 19:09 by Phoenix.

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18 Apr 2019 00:18 #4 by Peep
Thank you, Phoenix. The model I'm considering is the last on this list, which is the P/T if that makes any difference.

Do you know much about the PJ Sleep/Ivy Organics Bella Eurotop mentioned above? The materials seem high quality and the staff there were very patient and knowledgeable. They seemed genuinely happy to have me there.

I intend to test out both mattresses again before making my choice but don't want to choose poorly because they are both non-refundable.

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19 Apr 2019 23:29 #5 by Phoenix
Hi peep,

You are very welcome. Thanks for the clarification about the StressOpedic, my post is still relevant for all three options.

Regarding the Ivy Bella Euro Top, I am not sure which model it would be but I assume its the first one listed on this page - www.ivyorganics.com/mattresses-1-2-2/ .

It is a great idea to try both of these mattresses again, I can't really comment on the specifics of the mattress, as they don't list specific densities or ILD's on this hybrid mattress. I don't have any reason to believe this mattress would have any wink links, and they use certified organic products for the cover and the latex. You may also wish to ask about the pocketed coils support system to see who the manufacturer is.

Not having the ability to return the mattress if things do not turn out as well you may hope for certainly adds some pressure to get things right. I certainly agree with you and would make sure to take your time while you are testing the mattresses again. Remember there are two main functions of a mattress:

Pressure relief in all your sleeping positions and in all the pressure points of your body (most commonly hips and shoulders) ... especially on your side if this is one of your sleeping positions.

Posture and alignment in all your sleeping positions. This is about making sure that your spine is in its neutral alignment when you are completely relaxed on the mattress (which would normally involve at least 15 minutes on the mattress to "simulate" the pre-sleep state when your muscles "let go").

"Specs" about each person's body type and sleeping position are an important part of how each person interacts with a mattress but there are many other variables as well. There are many different types of layering combinations that can perform equally well for people of a certain height and weight and sleeping style so the most "accurate" way to "fit" a mattress to each person is to work with a knowledgeable local person who has the experience and knowledge to help you make the most suitable choices in "real time" and in person. There are some  general weight and height guidelines here  and some  general guidelines about sleeping positions here  and some information about how different types of layering can change and affect these guidelines in  this section of the site  but these are general guidelines and starting points only. I'd certainly pay attention to what your body tells you during the side-by-side testing of your finalists and certainly the help of the "patient and knowledgeable" staff who can help you make the best choices much more than any fancy design or recommendation of a specific mattress based on what I call "theory at a distance". They would also have a large customer base of people who have purchased the specific mattresses they sell which can be used as a reference point.

There is more information about how to test support/pressure relief in step 4 of the mattress tutorial .

Good luck... I’ll be interested in learning about your final decision.

Phoenix

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