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14 Oct 2019 09:59 #21 by Sensei
Hey rp0475,
 

“I think the issue is actually not so much my hips sinking too far, but my torso sinking too far. If I put a pillow under my hips only, it makes the problem worse. If I put a pillow under both my hips and torso, it feels so much better.”


The more you describe some of your solutions, the better it seems that your choice of a 24 ILD replacement should be a good fit. Please keep TMU updated on your replacement experience, it will be helpful to other forum members:) :) .
 
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Sensei

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06 Nov 2019 07:45 - 06 Nov 2019 07:45 #22 by rp0475
So we received the 24 ILD topper (3" blended Talalay, same as the 19 ILD we had first), and I'm really torn. Luma is giving us 2 weeks to try it out and decide which one to send back. We slept on the 24 ILD for a week, and while my husband and I both initially felt like it offered better support, it felt much firmer than I think either of anticipated, and we both missed the plush feel of the 19 ILD. With the 24, I think my hips are sinking in enough (honestly it's so hard to tell), but my shoulders feel a little more crunched. I tried a thicker pillow and that helped, but I still much preferred the way my shoulders sunk into the 19.
I also kept finding myself waking up throughout the night tilted forward, almost on my stomach, likely because the mattress was feeling too firm on my hips (my biggest pressure point). While my initial impression was that the 24 was more supportive, I did still feel a bit of that same strain mid-lower back that I felt on the softer topper. The area I'm talking about is basically from the top of my pelvic bone to the bottom of my rib cage. If I'm laying on my left side, it's the like the pelvic bone and the rib cage on the right side are bending in a bit too close to each other, if that makes sense. If as I'm laying there I flex my muscles to raise my waist/lumbar up, which in turns pushes my hips further down a bit, It feels better. I'm not sure whether this means my hips aren't sinking down far enough, my waist isn't being held up high enough, or some combination of the two.
After a week on the 24, we switched back to the 19 to compare. We both felt so much better climbing into bed with that level of softness, but that back strain I mentioned did feel more exaggerated. I don't wake up in pain there, but it's just an uncomfortable awareness of the way those muscles are bent. Because I was still feeling it on the 24, I didn't think the firmer topper was really helping. But switching back to the 19, I think the firmer one did help some, just not completely. But I could never feel comfortable enough on the 24. On the 19 last night, I did wake up with some hip/upper thigh pain on the side I was laying on, and had to switch sides. I'm not sure if that was a pressure point issue (feeling the 28 ILD below it), or if it was actually muscle strain from possibly being too soft?
On both configurations, when looking at my spine, it looks relatively straight from hips to waist, and then takes an upward slant from waist to neck. I say "relatively straight" because I think, although it's hard to tell for sure in the pics my husband took of me laying there so I might be wrong, that there is a slight "v" in that area of "strain" I mentioned.
I'm really not sure what to do here. I'm hoping we can find the right combo without having to send the whole mattress back. I also don't want to add a second topper, as the mattress is already 15" tall. For reference, the rest of the mattress construction, topper aside, is 8" 15 gauge L&P QE Bolsa, topped with 2" of 28 ILD Dunlop. Those two pieces are glued together within the cover, and then we have the 3" 19 or 24 Talalay pillow top separate.
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09 Nov 2019 13:41 #23 by Sensei
Hey rp0475,

You've provided lots of good feedback on your Luma Mattress purchase and comfort exchange, thanks for sharing with the TMU forum . :)

So we received the 24 ILD topper (3" blended Talalay, same as the 19 ILD we had first), and I'm really torn. Luma is giving us 2 weeks to try it out and decide which one to send back. We slept on the 24 ILD for a week, and while my husband and I both initially felt like it offered better support, it felt much firmer than I think either of anticipated, and we both missed the plush feel of the 19 ILD. With the 24, I think my hips are sinking in enough (honestly it's so hard to tell), but my shoulders feel a little more crunched. I tried a thicker pillow and that helped, but I still much preferred the way my shoulders sunk into the 19.


Have you shared your comfort exchange thoughts with Team Luma ? As one of our Trusted Expert Members , they would be interested in your concerns and could extend the trial period a bit longer to better determine which of the two toppers better suits your comfort preferences. Perhaps a conversation on what you've experienced so far will help them suggest what next steps could be, you can contact them directly either from our site here or Chat/ call directly through Luma Sleep's site here . All of our trusted members are dedicated to providing both high quality products and a superior consumer experience. Hope this helps…

Thanks,

Sensei

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11 Nov 2019 08:05 - 11 Nov 2019 08:06 #24 by rp0475

Sensei wrote: Hey rp0475,

You've provided lots of good feedback on your Luma Mattress purchase and comfort exchange, thanks for sharing with the TMU forum . :)

So we received the 24 ILD topper (3" blended Talalay, same as the 19 ILD we had first), and I'm really torn. Luma is giving us 2 weeks to try it out and decide which one to send back. We slept on the 24 ILD for a week, and while my husband and I both initially felt like it offered better support, it felt much firmer than I think either of anticipated, and we both missed the plush feel of the 19 ILD. With the 24, I think my hips are sinking in enough (honestly it's so hard to tell), but my shoulders feel a little more crunched. I tried a thicker pillow and that helped, but I still much preferred the way my shoulders sunk into the 19.


Have you shared your comfort exchange thoughts with Team Luma ? As one of our Trusted Expert Members , they would be interested in your concerns and could extend the trial period a bit longer to better determine which of the two toppers better suits your comfort preferences. Perhaps a conversation on what you've experienced so far will help them suggest what next steps could be, you can contact them directly either from our site here or Chat/ call directly through Luma Sleep's site here . All of our trusted members are dedicated to providing both high quality products and a superior consumer experience. Hope this helps…

Thanks,

Sensei

I sent them an email on Friday but haven't heard back yet. In the meantime, I was just curious what your advice here might be about what the issue is...although I realize that ranges from difficult to downright impossible to diagnose without actually seeing it. I know my spine is curving down too much, but I can't tell if it's because the topper is too soft, too firm, too thick or not thick enough. Whether it's the softness causing it too curve, or even possibly that it's not soft enough for my shoulders, so they're being held too high causing my spine to have to curve down to meet my hips. I wish I could take an x-ray of my spine and the individual layers of my bed to see for sure what was happening!
Last edit: 11 Nov 2019 08:06 by rp0475.

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