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Mattresses in South Florida ... found Ghost Bed

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25 Jul 2019 17:18 #1 by mpicasso
My head hurts from reading and literally have gotten to the “paralysis by analysis” phase. Enjoy a latex bed but those at City Mattress (Pranasleep) are just too expensive (Samadhi and Wahe...even considered the “discounted” rack). Visited the Charles P Rogers showroom in NY, which provided a nice sleep but at $2600, I still was on the fence. Before that, favored a BeautyRest Black but found enough reviews suggesting to look elsewhere. Recently, I have been steered towards the Wink Plus bed but cannot find a showroom to try.
I am 6’1” 255#’s, so BMI over 30 (dieting and exercising, and down from 260#’s...still dropping). Currently on a queen, sleeping solo except my dog. Sleep on my back, primarily, and sleep hot. Did like the idea of wool but concerned about its longevity, so thinking more of a Talalay/Dunlop mix, as opposed to springs. Budget is in the $2000 range but more concerned with finding the bed best for my needs.
1) From what I understand, springs are better for isolation of movement, not much more. Am I understanding this correctly?
2) Sleeping on a queen, now, but thoughts of going full-size, for room. If I stayed queen, could it extend the life of a mattress, due to slightly more “sleeping area”? Had planned on building a slatted platform frame, so cost is not much difference between the 2. Only need to buy new sheets.
3) Ideal weight is around 210#’s - will I notice the difference in the feel of the bed, if I purchase based on my weight now? Have a 3” latex topper on it now but think bed is past it’s useful life. Basically asking if it would make more sense to get a different topper or even a “cheap” bed, to hold me over while I continue to lose weight (will take 6-9 months, at minimum).
4) Not sure the search parameter to use, looking for local manufacturers but live in 33461 zip code. Planning to visit Ghostbed sometime over the next few days, and frequent the Orlando area (32811), as well. That said, no concerns with driving 3-4 hours away, especially as I saw Fox Mattresses falls within that distance.
The information provided has been VERY beneficial but struggling to apply it to real world applications. The more I try to educate myself, the more confused I get, and therefore struggle to figure out even the questions to ask. Saw a note about the importance of pillows, something i sleep on about 60-70% of the time...not going to even begin tackling that idea!!!
Thanks in advance!

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26 Jul 2019 03:14 #2 by April
A queen size bed is 80 inches long. Full is only 75. That five inches matters a lot. I'm 5'4" and a full is too short for me.

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26 Jul 2019 04:41 - 26 Jul 2019 04:44 #3 by mpicasso

April wrote: A queen size bed is 80 inches long. Full is only 75.

When I travel, stuck at certain locations because of 2 large dogs, and get 2 double beds in the room, which I have no problem with. Had taken the length in to consideration but thank you for the note.
That said, not noticing enough of a price difference to justify a smaller bed.
Last edit: 26 Jul 2019 04:44 by mpicasso.

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26 Jul 2019 11:27 - 05 Aug 2019 12:40 #4 by Phoenix
Hi mpicasso,

Welcome to our mattress forum :)!

Once you start gathering the knowledge to make an informed purchase is quite rare to not enter a "paralysis by analysis" phase....maybe we should have some kind of 5 stages of grief for mattress purchasing :) It will start making sense once you match the theory with the field testing and decide on the "must-have" mattress features. There are many variables that are interconnected and it is difficult to discriminate and arrange them in the order of importance for your own needs and preferences which are very unique to you. The mattress buying personal value equation may help to decide between your options. Yes, the Prana is quite expensive.

1) From what I understand, springs are better for isolation of movement, not much more. Am I understanding this correctly?


Depends on the springs ... You are correct that pocket coils are the most motion isolating type of springs. Traditional innerspring mattresses are notorious for motion transfer issues for “light" or more sensitive sleepers. Memory foam is the best at motion transfer but latex, pocket coils, microcoils, buckling column gel, and even polyfoam are generally good as well but it will depend to some degree on the specific design of the mattress, on your relative weight ranges, and your sleeping style (such as how close you sleep together). Pocket coils are generally good for motion transfer, unlike innersprings that are linked with helicals which are generally poor to fair depending on the specifics of the innerspring and the foam layers above it. Just as an example most people will tell you that a mattress that uses latex comfort layers would be relatively good at motion isolation but there are also some that will tell you otherwise which is a good example of why once again the most reliable way to know whether a mattress is "motion isolating enough" for you would be based on your own careful testing or your own personal experience with both of you on the mattress in the positions you normally sleep in. You can find more about latex versus innerspring post#28 here. And there is more about mattresses motion transfer in post #18 here  .

Additionally, while both innerspring and a firmer latex core can be used as a support layer ... each has very "different" characteristics but the most important differences are the ones you can feel and that you personally prefer. Both of them come in softer or firmer versions and in many different designs so an innerspring could be firmer than a latex core or the other way around depending on the specifics of the components you are comparing.

2) Sleeping on a queen, now, but thoughts of going full-size, for room. If I stayed queen, could it extend the life of a mattress, due to slightly more “sleeping area”? Had planned on building a slatted platform frame, so cost is not much difference between the 2. Only need to buy new sheets.


Nice to be able to DIY slatted frame to your own specifications. You may wish to visit the the Best Mattress Foundation thread here for some good tips. I have not seen any data to suggest that a 6" bigger size bed will have a measurable difference in durability. Most consumers typically revert to the same general area of the bed.

3) Ideal weight is around 210#’s - will I notice the difference in the feel of the bed, if I purchase based on my weight now? Have a 3” latex topper on it now but think bed is past it’s useful life. Basically asking if it would make more sense to get a different topper or even a “cheap” bed, to hold me over while I continue to lose weight (will take 6-9 months, at minimum).


Congratulations on your weight loss through exercise and diet! :) ... 45 lbs to go... IMO, I do not see any great benefit to buying a cheap bed and holding until the sought weight level is reached especially as you do not seem to deal with any pains due to alignment issues. As you lose weight the alignment also will improve so if possible I'd hold on a bit and instead experiment with what you have ... maybe taking off the current topper and see how your body reacts to a firmer surface. Additionally, weight loss, although sometimes happens fast, is still a gradual process.

Currently on a queen, sleeping solo except my dog. Sleep on my back, primarily, and sleep hot.


I am sure your dog would appreciate a little cooler sleeping environment as well...There is more in about the many variables that can affect the sleeping temperature of mattress/sleeping systems in post #2 here  that can help you choose the types of materials and components that are most likely to keep you in a comfortable temperature range. In very general terms ... the materials, layers, and components of a sleeping system that are closer to your skin will have a bigger effect on airflow, moisture transport, and temperature regulation than materials, layers, and components that are further away from your skin and softer mattresses or foam toppers will tend to be more "insulating" and for some people can sleep warmer than firmer versions of the same material.


Regarding Orlando, Palm Beach FL vicinities, I definitely think visiting the Ghostbed / Naturesleep store. and Bedmasters (almost 3 hours drive) they also have an all Latex Talalay mattress. that's worth testing. Here are a couple of other threads regarding South Florida:


South Florida Mattress Store
Quality mattress retailers - Palm Beach / Marin Co.

Let us know if there is any other information we can help you with.

Phoenix

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Last edit: 05 Aug 2019 12:40 by Phoenix.

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26 Jul 2019 16:31 #5 by mpicasso

Phoenix wrote: Additionally, while both innerspring and a firmer latex core can be used as a support layer ... each has very "different" characteristics but the most important differences are the ones you can feel and that you personally prefer. Both of them come in softer or firmer versions and in many different designs so an innerspring could be firmer than a latex core or the other way around depending on the specifics of the components you are comparing.

Have definitely seen the differences and honestly never gave latex cores a fair shake, because of cost, until recently. Started venturing away from the "larger" corporate stores.

Phoenix wrote: Nice to be able to DIY slatted frame to your own specifications. You may wish to visit the the Best Mattress Foundation thread here

Thanks for this! Started doing it out of necessity (3 kids in a 3 BR house, so built bunkbeds).

Phoenix wrote: Regarding Orlando, Palm Beach FL vicinities, I definitely think visiting the Ghostbed / Naturesleep store. and Bedmasters (almost 3 hours drive) they also have an all Latex Talalay mattress. that's worth testing.

Visited Ghostbed today and absolutely fell in love with the Ghostbed Flex! Cool to the touch and alhave struggled trying to feel if I was supported and comfortable...not today!!! Laid on it and my muscles ALMOST INSTANTLY relaxed, similar to when I meditate.
I have been looking at beds inconsistently for a.couple of years, and without much passion until earlier this year. Going to the big-box mattress stores is confusing and depressing. Reading multiple reviews online is helpful, to an extent. But reading the info here helped me understand what I had felt, and more importantly what to look for. Today, I found a bed that fit my body, cool, as I sleep hot, let me sink in but not too far, allowed my muscles to feel relaxed, and was at a price point I wanted to be at. So long story short, thank you!!!

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04 Aug 2019 22:12 #6 by Phoenix
Hi mpicasso,

Thank you for your update on your shopping experience. I am so happy you found such a nice fit at the Ghostbed store ... I just love your quote:

But reading the info here helped me understand what I had felt, and more importantly what to look for. Today, I found a bed that fit my body, cool, as I sleep hot, let me sink in but not too far, allowed my muscles to feel relaxed, and was at a price point I wanted to be at. So long story short, thank you!!!


You described very well what people can get from putting in some time to experiment and to find the relevant information about mattresses and skip the marketing stories altogether. Thank you again for posting the update.

Phoenix

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05 Aug 2019 13:04 #7 by Phoenix
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