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Any experiences with Springwall? (The Brick, Vancouver) Have low budget 13 Jan 2020 15:41 #11

Sensei wrote: Hey MattressCavern,

Does anyone know if customizing a mattress is better instead? Thinking about doing that in a way where it meets $500.


I can see from your earlier Post #5 , you mention "customizing a mattress" here:

I've found an alternative mattress store I might try out. I think they allow the customer to customize their own mattress and at a more affordable price compared to major retailers. I think they're a local factory direct manufacturer. Problem is, I have no idea how I should go about customizing a mattress. My BMI, surprsingly, is 14.1.


Are you working with your local manufacturer for building your mattress and how is that going? Thanks for the updates :) .

Thanks,
Sensei


Haven't done so yet haha. I'm thinking about going tomorrow or soon. I just don't know how to go about constructing it, as in which materials, foam type, foam density, etc.

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Any experiences with Springwall? (The Brick, Vancouver) Have low budget 14 Jan 2020 10:02 #12

I went to the Sleep Country store earlier today and they only had this one on sale, ending today:

www.sleepcountry.ca/sealy-perfect-rest-o...tress/product/71962M

It says it has high density support foam. I asked them what else it has and they gave me the info:

SEALY BRENNAN
9 inch
3 inch memory cooling foam
5 inches of opticore support

Would this be a good purchase for me?

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Any experiences with Springwall? (The Brick, Vancouver) Have low budget 14 Jan 2020 13:00 #13

MattressCavern - While it looks like a nice mattress at a reasonable price, with the lack of information provided regarding specific foam densities used there is no way to predict the durability of this mattress. If it feels comfortable to you it may be a good choice for a while, but there's no way to tell how it will maintain its support over time. Sorry I couldn't be more positive with my assessment, just trying to be honest.

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Any experiences with Springwall? (The Brick, Vancouver) Have low budget 14 Jan 2020 13:15 #14

Sweet Dreams wrote: MattressCavern - While it looks like a nice mattress at a reasonable price, with the lack of information provided regarding specific foam densities used there is no way to predict the durability of this mattress. If it feels comfortable to you it may be a good choice for a while, but there's no way to tell how it will maintain its support over time. Sorry I couldn't be more positive with my assessment, just trying to be honest.


That's alright. I totally understand that. I also found this one, it lists the density, memory foam:

www.leons.ca/products/sealy-shimmery-cushion-firm-full-mattress

Comfort Layer: 4-1/2 HDM - 1.35 lbs.
Base Layer: 5" HD SealySupport Core - 1.5 lbs.
Exclusive Aloe-Fresh fabric technology
Exclusive StayCool fibre blend technology

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Any experiences with Springwall? (The Brick, Vancouver) Have low budget 14 Jan 2020 13:49 #15

Densities of 1.35lb and 1.5lb are both lower than desired, but I guess in this price range compromises would be expected. I believe that 1.8lb is generally recommended as a minimum density for good durability for non-plus sized people.

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Any experiences with Springwall? (The Brick, Vancouver) Have low budget 16 Jan 2020 08:47 #16

Sweet Dreams wrote: Densities of 1.35lb and 1.5lb are both lower than desired, but I guess in this price range compromises would be expected. I believe that 1.8lb is generally recommended as a minimum density for good durability for non-plus sized people.


I went to a maufacturing factory store today and I really liked the mattress I was shown. They said it's made of high coil with luxury foam on top. What does luxury foam mean?

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Any experiences with Springwall? (The Brick, Vancouver) Have low budget 16 Jan 2020 10:18 #17

"Luxury foam" is a pretty meaningless phrase which doesn't give you any objective information about the foam. It's probably has a plush feel to it which they're describing as luxury, but no density is specified with that terminology. More of a marketing phrase than anything else. See if they can provide a density for the foam to help determine its durability, and then 1.8lb or higher would be an indicator of high quality.

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Any experiences with Springwall? (The Brick, Vancouver) Have low budget 16 Jan 2020 12:17 #18

I would say that mattresses at The Brick are overpriced for the quality. If $500 is a sharp threshold, you would be better off with "Dorm Mattress" from Foamite for $285, see here: www.foamite.com/mattresses/mattress-specials/?ref=nav_sub_level

All their mattresses are high quality for the price. If you can go to $685, they have FOMA multilayered. But as others said, it is hard to expect good quality for double mattress under $500. The one from the Brick might last 5 years if you are lucky, since your BMI is so low.

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Any experiences with Springwall? (The Brick, Vancouver) Have low budget 17 Jul 2020 10:43 #19

Hello, I am new to this forum and really need your help in deciding correct mattress for me. I have a limited budget and have to chose one of below 2 mattresses. Want to understand from quality perspective in case you have reviewed these mattresses as I may want my mattress to last for 5-8 years approx, I prefer medium to firm mattress and I my current mattress has given me back pain as it has started sagging in. Please guide me with comments on both mattress so that I can decide the one. Thanks

Cocoon Essential Medium -
cocoonbysealy.ca/en/mattress/essential/purchase/

Springwall Campus 8" Firm -
www.costco.ca/springwall-campus-8-mattre...oduct.100500367.html

Thanking you in advance.

Ritz

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Any experiences with Springwall? (The Brick, Vancouver) Have low budget 20 Jul 2020 16:35 #20

Hi Ritz.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum :)

I have a limited budget and have to chose one of below 2 mattresses. Want to understand from quality perspective in case you have reviewed these mattresses as I may want my mattress to last for 5-8 years approx, I prefer medium to firm mattress and I my current mattress has given me back pain as it has started sagging in. Please guide me with comments on both mattress so that I can decide the one.


Good to see you have done some research and narrowed your mattress options to the Cocoon Essential and Springwall Campus mattresses. I am sorry to hear you have started experiencing back pain with your current mattress. Sagging and virtual impressions are the common reasons why people start getting gradually out of alignment and experiencing back pains. It’s very likely that your mattress is lacking the support needed to keep your spine in neutral alignment.

Canada Sealy also does not disclose any meaningful information about their mattress layers. I looked around for some more info on the (8”) Cocoon Essential specifications including the foam thickness and density but had no more luck than I did in the pas to find the specifications you’d need to know to make an informed purchase. We did have a few consumers that managed to find out specs of the (10”) Cocoon Classic which had some weak links on the foam quality/durability side.

Typically major mattress brands like Sealy are among the least transparent in the industry and they tend to use lower-quality materials in their mattresses than most of their smaller competitors … along with any mattress where you aren't able to find out the type and quality/durability of the materials inside it (see the guidelines linked below along with some simple Q &A in Post #3 and Post #12 about Major Mattress Brands and some more “buzz” about marketing stories & major mattress brands) .

If you are considering this mattress, I’d keep in mind that the Essential is the Medium option of the Classic that comes in Firm and soft.

Springwall is a Canadian independent manufacturer of higher quality mattresses. I’d still want to find the foam densities as this line up is made to requirements exclusively for Costco and Costco website does not list anything other than very basic information for Campus 8”. You may wish to contact Costco directly or Springwall manufacturer to see if they are willing to tell you the density of the foams they are using: (Phone: 905-564-5008 Email: info@springwall.com)

This is what Costco Canada lists on their website for Springwell ~ Campus 8” Mattress:
• 5.1 cm (2 in.) ViscoGel memory foam
• 15.2 cm (6 in.) high-density bio-foam core

Without knowing the specifications that would allow assessing the quality of this mattress you or I won’t be able to tell how long or if it would last around 5-8 years. This is the part of your research that you can't see or "feel" and assessing the quality/durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label (or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new). With this or any new mattress you are considering I would always start with ...finding out the information listed here so you can compare the materials and components to the quality/durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before deciding if it is actually suitable to you.

In terms of suitability also, I can't speak to how any mattress will "feel" for someone else because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances ... outside of PPP(Pressure relief, Posture & alignment, and Personal Preferences)

If you can find out or confirm the foam density for all the layers in both mattresses (either from your retailer or from manufacturers) and post them on the forum I'd be happy to let you know if there are any lower quality materials that would be a cause for concern or that would compromise the durability or useful life of either mattress.

Wishing you the best of luck in your mattress shopping journey!

Phoenix
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