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Nest Latex Hybrid vs. Brooklyn Bloom Hybrid

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16 Jun 2020 17:21 #11 by snickerful
Hi Sensei,
Can I ask why BB is no longer a trusted member. I was looking at their Aurora and their Bloom. I'd prefer a latex mattress (probably a Hybrid). Thank you.

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19 Jun 2020 14:32 #12 by Sensei
Hey snickerful,

My apologies for the delayed response and thanks for your question.

Can I ask why BB is no longer a trusted member. I was looking at their Aurora and their Bloom. I'd prefer a latex mattress (probably a Hybrid). Thank you.


Discontinuing Brooklyn Bedding's membership was a mutual business decision having no bearing on consumers and as such, there is no need to make this information public.

TMU does however make public the reasons for membership termination in situations concerning consumers' best interest when we cannot in clear conscience deem the company a "Trusted Member". You can read  here , for example, this instance of past announcements of business membership termination. The "reasons" are mostly connected with the company not meeting the stringent criteria that TMU has for a prospective applicant to become a Trusted Member.  These may include ongoing issues of customer service, failure to disclose specs needed to assess how long a mattress would last, etc. Hope this helps…;)

Thanks,
Sensei

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19 Jun 2020 17:01 #13 by snickerful
Okay, thank you. Just wondered if quality or durability is a concern.

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30 Jun 2020 15:23 #14 by Endymion
Hi, Sensei. I'm checking back in after drifting away during the pandemic lockdowns (and my pesky e-mail putting Mattress Underground updates in my spam folder for some reason).

Regarding the latex hybrids, is the polyfoam in the Nest Latex Hybrid any cause for concern in terms of heat retention? I've read that there are different types of polyfoam (lower and higher quality), and that it is more breathable than memory foam but could still retain heat. Would the Brooklyn Bloom Hybrid (or something like the Plushbeds Luxury Bliss) sleep cooler because they avoid polyfoam in the top layers of their mattress? Unlike Nest, it looks as if Brooklyn Bedding and Plushbeds opt for a cotton/wool upper layer only.

On a slightly related note, are firmer latex hybrids typically better for those with mild back soreness? Some review cites point to a delicate trade-off between support (for the firmer models) and pressure relief (for the medium/medium-firm models).

Thanks!

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30 Jun 2020 17:23 #15 by Endymion
Hi, again, Kdot,

While I know you ended up returning the Brooklyn Bloom Hybrid because of many factors, I am curious to know how you found the heat retention of the mattress. Did it sleep cool, or at least temperature neutral? Their website claims that their "Talalay latex foam is seven times more breathable than other foams". Wondering how much stock to put into that claim (even though latex -- and Talalay latex specifically, as Sensei pointed out -- does sleep cooler than something like memory foam). I'm a hot sleeper and worry about purchasing a latex hybrid that's not as suitable to that condition as others may be.

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01 Jul 2020 09:32 #16 by sophiasgma
We sleep on an all Talalay latex mattress (12") and there is, as far as I'm concerned, absolutely no heat retention. I've always slept hot, but not on this mattress. It's "cool"! A top layer of 1" or more of pure wool would make it even cooler for you, and greatly complement the comfort of the latex.

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01 Jul 2020 10:40 #17 by Endymion
Thank you for sharing your personal experience with Talalay, Sophiasgma! I am leaning toward Talalay given its more "breathable" nature in contrast to the denser Dunlop variety. Do you find the Talalay too bouncy? That's the only supposed downside I've heard people complain about to a degree.

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02 Jul 2020 09:31 #18 by Endymion
Hi Happycat8! Sorry for not seeing your post sooner. Thank you for sharing your own findings and providing those links. That quilting foam is what has me a little worried. I sleep hot, and, if I'm not mistaken, the quilting foam is a mixture of cotton/wool/polyfoam and I fear that the polyfoam may make me mildly uncomfortable if it retains heat. How have you made out with your mattress search?

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10 Jul 2020 11:59 - 10 Jul 2020 12:05 #19 by Phoenix
Hello Endymion!

Regarding the latex hybrids, is the polyfoam in the Nest Latex Hybrid any cause for concern in terms of heat retention? I've read that there are different types of polyfoam (lower and higher quality), and that it is more breathable than memory foam but could still retain heat.


I understand your concern regarding heat retention. While all foams are insulators to a degree, there are also other factors and interconnected variables including your own heat tolerance even within the “sleep hot” range. The more you sink-into a mattress (the plusher it is) the more potential you have for sleeping warmer. (Memory foam is the least breathable foam, followed by polyfoam and then latex) In very general terms ... the materials, layers, and components of a sleeping system that are closer to your skin will have a bigger effect on airflow, moisture transport, and temperature regulation than materials, layers, and components that are further away from your skin. While the .1” is cotton & wool will certainly mitigate temperature regulation issues and because all layers work together ... the 1.5” quilt poly layer would be less breathable and temperature regulating than the latex below and the Stretch Knit Cotton and Joma Wool. See more in post #6 in this thread about what makes a mattress ‘hot?’ .

Would the Brooklyn Bloom Hybrid (or something like the Plushbeds Luxury Bliss) sleep cooler because they avoid polyfoam in the top layers of their mattress? Unlike Nest, it looks as if Brooklyn Bedding and Plushbeds opt for a cotton/wool upper layer only.


Cotton and wool are more temperature-regulating than synthetic materials. Wool and Alpaca are great temperature regulators because they trap air (which is an insulator) but also allows humid air and moisture to be transported away from the body and stores moisture inside the fiber which is moving it away from the skin thus keeping the cooling cycle going (which is why it is used so successfully in both cold and hot climates).

On a slightly related note, are firmer latex hybrids typically better for those with mild back soreness?


Depends on the cause of the “mild back" soreness. If its an alignment issue it is most likely better to err on the side of caution and opt for a firmer bed. You can read more about different "symptoms" that people may experience seeping on a mattress (in Post #2 which is a primary reference post)... The only way to know for certain whether a specific mattress is a good "match" for both of you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP is based on your own careful testing or personal experience. If you can't test in person then there will always be some risk and uncertainty involved because the specifics of the mattress itself along with your own body type, sleeping position, and preferences can affect which would be the most suitable choice.

The best way to get closer to what you can expect from any specific product would be a conversation with the manufacturer (in this case both NestBedihng and BB have a great track record of knowledge, expertise, and excellent customer support that can help choose the type, thickness, and firmness for a mattress that has the least possible risk and the best chance for success.)

I hope this adds a bit more depth to the great interaction you've had with our moderators and subscribers. I am looking forward to an update!

Phoenix

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