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Hip and shoulder discomfort

22 May 2020 06:00 #1 by cmjubes
I built my own mattress from Ken at Arizona mattress company.
I have the queen size 8" coils, 3" 19ILD Talalay, 3" 28ILD Dunlop with the wool/ bamboo zipper cover.
The problem is I have the Talalay as the comfort level, Dunlop on top of the springs. But I get horrible hip discomfort. So I switched the Talalay to the bottom and Dunlap on the top.

Not as much hip discomfort, but I get shoulder discomfort.

Would a 3" foam mattress topper help with this? Looking at the one below anyone tried this one?
Any info on a good foam topper? Been building this mattress for several months and still don't have a good night sleep.
Ready to cash in this experiment in and try a few bed in a box's.

The 3” Octasmart® Plus Topper

Thanks in advance

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22 May 2020 13:05 #2 by Sweet Dreams
Have you discussed your issues with Ken at APM? He's extremely knowledgeable about latex mattresses and given the problems you're experiencing I'd expect him to have a potential solution. I'd certainly recommend giving him a shot at it before moving on to a lesser quality bed in a box. - Bill

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23 May 2020 09:32 #3 by solege
Replied by solege on topic Hip and shoulder discomfort
I have same issue and I want to cut my mattress. Use firmer dunlop as support for waist/hips. The softer talalay for head and shoulders. I also have a older 3" memory topper and I tried that and I just hate it. Too soft and retains heat and is just awful. If you like memory foam then maybe consider that option. But since you went with latex I'm guessing you may have tried memory foam and didn't like it. You won't like it on latex foam either.

I find it interesting that mattress manufacturer's make different layers of foam instead of different zones. We need different support for different areas of our bodies. Shuffling layers doesn't accomplish this but different zones would.

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23 May 2020 11:09 #4 by Sweet Dreams
@solege - From your post it sounds like you might want to contact TMU Trusted Member Flobeds , they have unique latex designs which offer extensive zoning configurations. Hope they can help meet your needs. - Bill

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23 May 2020 19:05 #5 by diynaturalbedding
It seems to me like you have already solved your problem:

What if you did a DIY zone and cut your top two latex layers in half and put half of the medium on top under your shoulder and half under your hips and vise versa with the other layer? In my opinion, the difference between Talalay and Dunlop affect the feel of a mattress less than the actual firmness of the piece. It is not difficult to cut latex. I have instructions here: See the comments on the post for more ideas.

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24 May 2020 08:44 #6 by cmjubes
Replied by cmjubes on topic Hip and shoulder discomfort
That sounds like a great idea.

I agree I may look into cutting the Latex layers and place it in the correct areas of choice. 19 Talalay head and shoulders, Dunlop for hips and back

Thanks for the help.

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24 May 2020 08:48 #7 by cmjubes
Replied by cmjubes on topic Hip and shoulder discomfort
Thanks for the information, I agree with cutting and repositioning the Latex layers in a different configuration. Looks like a little more homework. I dont have a electric knife, wouldn't a really good razor blade work? Measure out the cut mark, and use a straight edge and a sharp blade to cut?

Thanks you for your help in advance.

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24 May 2020 13:00 #8 by diynaturalbedding
You could use anything you like, the sharper the blade/finer the teeth, the smoother the cut you will get. You can use a razor blade but don't be surprised when your cuts are jagged. If you have a knife with a blade longer than the latex is deep you will get a better cut than with a razor blade or box cutter. Since I do a bit of experimenting with my products, I have used a 10" sharp serrated knife to cut latex. It was not a beautiful cut and it was a hard piece of latex, so it was easier to cut that a soft or medium would be, but it worked.

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