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Bottom heavy and bottoming out on organic latex 05 Sep 2020 10:04 #1

Just under a year ago we purchased a Sleep Ez Full 10” organic latex mattress, supported by a properly spaced sturdy wood slat frame, and we have never been able to make it work. I was lighter then, but currently I'm 145lbs, 5'2” tall. My partner is 5'6”, and roughly 150lbs. I am a side/back sleeper, and he is a back/stomach sleeper. The first configuration we received was 3" Soft talalay (top), 3" Medium dunlop (middle), 3" firm dunlop (bottom). After a few weeks trial I found that the initial lower back relief I felt was replaced by a stiff neck because my shoulders weren't sinking in enough. In fact, I noticed my hips were raised too, as there were minor gaps whether on my back or side. My partner had said he felt stiff in the shoulders at first too, just not as bad as me.

I had them send more foam, so that the bottom was now medium talalay, and the middle was split ½ firm dunlop, ½ medium dunlop. My side hammocked, so I returned to the original firm and medium dunop layers, and added a 2” soft talalay topper, hoping I could return to the original support but with a little more cushion for my shoulders. The hammocking never really went away on my side, in fact both of our sides have broken in significantly, compared to the center which is almost as firm as day one.

Once the trial period ran out, Sleep EZ became less communicative. The last advice they gave me was to take off the mattress covers so all the layers would relax around the edges. So I'm still sleeping in a hammocking uncovered mattress, and my lower back pain is steadily increasing. Admittedly, I'm not an easy body to support, I'm bottom heavy with wide shoulders, and my weight tends to wildly fluctuate. In coil mattresses of the past I would sit at the top of the bed to read until a dent was made that would inadvertently accommodate my shoulders. I remember really enjoying the Casper Wave when I tried it, though my partner was less keen. I considered going with Flobeds instead of Sleep EZ, and wonder if I should call on them to make us a custom layer. Other people on this site have suggested a diy hybrid, adding a shallow coil into the equation. OK experts, what should I do?

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Bottom heavy and bottoming out on organic latex 06 Sep 2020 04:37 #2

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Hi JND,

I considered going with Flobeds instead of Sleep EZ, and wonder if I should call on them to make us a custom layer. Other people on this site have suggested a diy hybrid, adding a shallow coil into the equation. OK experts, what should I do?

If the Sleep EZ mattress is not working out for you, I suggest you get a new mattress. If you have researched Flobeds and are happy with what they offer, I would contact them directly with the information you presented above and see what they recommend. If you can, I'd also suggest you go to their store in person to be able to try out some mattresses to make the correct choice. Good luck with your mattress shopping and please let us know what you decided to do,

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Bottom heavy and bottoming out on organic latex 06 Sep 2020 13:08 #3

Hi Mario, thanks for weighing in. One reason I'm looking into working with what I have is because for us this is all very expensive. Up until recently I always went for the cheap spring model somewhere local and made due. Now that Im older my body doesn't tolerate that anymore, so Im experiencing a learning curve.

At first glance there doesn't appear to be a location here in New England where I can try out a Flobed, but I'll look again.

I understand mixing sleep systems requires crunching numbers, and the trial and error can be more expensive than the right mattress. But because of the pandemic I'm staying afloat with unemployment, so for the time being I need some guidance on how to tweak what I've already purchased.

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Bottom heavy and bottoming out on organic latex 07 Sep 2020 03:54 #4

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Hi JND,

As far as other brands go, while I can certainly help with "how" to choose ... It's not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first "rule" of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, or PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own personal preferences).

This being said, have you taken all the layers out of the mattress and placed them individually on the floor to see which layer is not offering support and may cause the hammock effect you describe?

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Bottom heavy and bottoming out on organic latex 09 Sep 2020 21:53 #5

I can try to do that, thanks for the suggestion. Though I still need to address the shoulder issue, and a zoned layer seems like the best way to go. I'm still waiting for Flobeds to get back to me, but in the mean time I was looking at other zoned latex options. Looks like there are a company called Take Ten that offers a three zone, and somebody called Cozypure offers five zones, for starters. Anyone have luck with this sort of construction? Maybe there's a thread you can direct me to?

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Bottom heavy and bottoming out on organic latex 10 Sep 2020 11:05 #6

Also, for what it's worth, I did ask Sleep EZ about the ILD of the layers I currently have, but all they could give me is an estimate: soft 19-22; medium 28-30; firm 38-40. Not sure if that helps at all.

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