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Lunazen Mattress 16 Sep 2020 15:54 #1

Hi, just checking in to see if anyone has tried and or have any opinions on the relatively new Lunazen mattress made in Canada? I'm really looking at giving it a shot but it would be nice to have some opinions.
They do talk about how their mattress is medium soft which I would take to be 4-5 in firmness but they call it a 6.
The mattress is essentially 8" of pocket coils (15.5 gauge), 1020 coils in a Queen, 1" of ecotex soy foam, 3" of Zen M foam., advance silpur cover.

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Lunazen Mattress 17 Sep 2020 23:30 #2

Hi stmslpr.

I did a quick scan to see if anyone else has been chatting about the Lunazen mattress in the forum, but it appears it’s only come up twice. The promising bit of information I found is that they do appear to use components that meet the mattress durability guidelines here for normal range BMI sleepers.

Zen-M memory foam, 4lbs density
Another 1" Ecotex soy foam, 4lbs density
8" bipocket coils, 15.5 gauge
Overall, depending on your BMI and sleeping position, this could be a useful mattress with decent longevity.

They do talk about how their mattress is medium soft which I would take to be 4-5 in firmness but they call it a 6.


Ditto! I wouldn't use or trust any kind of firmness rating or "theory" as anything more than a general guideline that is subject to change based on your own unique preferences and circumstances. There is no such thing as firmness scale and the best a scale can do is to rate mattresses made by the same manufacturer against each other and create an internal firmness rating scale (which most retailers/manufacturers do) to help the shopper compare models to each other in terms of firmness. This is to say that there no "standard" definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer.

Hopefully, some subscribers that have direct experience with the product will see your post and chime in.

Phoenix
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Lunazen Mattress 18 Sep 2020 13:58 #3

Thanks Phoenix! I really wish they had the mattress showcased in a brick and mortar store like some other bed in boxes do.

I do think I need a mattress that's less firm than the one I bought last year (Malmo mattress by Berkley but I bought the 2" 4lbs Belgian Vicoelastic memory foam too so I can essentially turn it into a London which is actually now the configuration... I did put the latex underneath the coils to hopefully give it a bit of "softness). I'm going to retry putting the 2" soft talaly latex on top of the coils and underneath the memory foam again, thus 4 " of foam and latex on the coils (I've tried this before but I think I still "sunk" into the the firmness of the coils).

I don't know why it feels uncomfortable (possibly too firm). I'd assume the 6" of 15 gauge coils of the mattress (1484 pocket coils in the queen) wouldn't be that firm.

Which leads me to wonder if the Lunazen will actually feel that different because the gauge is 15.5 (8" coils) and also has 4" of foam on top. Though the "big" difference is that Lunazen has 1020 pocket coils in the queen size. And it's "bi-level"... which I assume is basically some of the pocket coils being "taller" that others... my guess is half of them are 8" and half are maybe 6" in alternating pattern.

It's looking more and more like I prefer a "softer, less firm mattress. This isn't great for the back of a stomach sleeper though I would think.

I have heard somewhere that said stomach sleepers should go for a connected coil mattresses and not pocket coils. This is because connected coils doesn't let the heavy parts (hips/torso) sink more than other parts as it's all connected. Where as individual pocket coils "conform more to heavy parts allowing for better pressure relief.

I really do like the feel of Stearns and Foster mattress (their medium soft) but there's been too many bad reviews regarding durability of them and also I believe the experts on this site also suggests to beware of those big companies that may use less than quality materials.

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Lunazen Mattress 19 Sep 2020 22:24 #4

Hi stmslpr.

Good thinking to reconfigure your mattress to see if this helps. Do they offer the option to purchase a thicker Talalay latex? If 2” isn’t working, perhaps a different thickness (or even a denser Dunlop) could be a good alternative without having to replace your entire mattress. It’s hard to “diagnose” from the distance why you’re finding the unit to be uncomfortable/too firm. It’s likely a matter of preference and feel on a mattress.

Which leads me to wonder if the Lunazen will actually feel that different because the gauge is 15.5 (8" coils) and also has 4" of foam on top. Though the "big" difference is that Lunazen has 1020 pocket coils in the queen size


Like Sensei mentioned in your previous conversation, the differences for “feel” with regards to the height of the coil (6" or 8") would not be as apparent for "feel" as the gauge or "thickness" of the coil.
Generally, you can’t look just the gauge of the coil only, because the number of coils (or the coil density), the height of the coil, the diameter of the coil, the shape of the coil, and the number of turns in each coil, and some of the other coil specs that can differentiate one coil from another can also make a significant difference in the amount of steel in an innerspring and along with the type of coil and how the individual coils are connected together can also make a significant difference in the firmness and response of the innerspring as well.

It's looking more and more like I prefer a "softer, less firm mattress. This isn't great for the back of a stomach sleeper though I would think.


The challenge here is to find the right balance of comfort/support. You can certainly get more softness as long as the mattress offers you the support you need for your BMI and a prone sleeping position so that you avoid hyperextension in a swayback position that can cause back issues.

I have heard somewhere that said stomach sleepers should go for a connected coil mattresses and not pocket coils…because connected coils doesn't let the heavy parts (hips/torso) sink more than other parts as it's all connected..


“Connected coils” use a single wire to ”strongly join" with their neighboring coils from head to toe, hence the name continuous. They can provide a very firm support system but have a far lesser ability to shape themselves to a body profile. They tend to be a low-cost coil system you can find in a mattress. For someone like you who is seeking “softness” from a coiled support system, I’d consider reading up on Offset Coils

I really do like the feel of Stearns and Foster mattress (their medium soft) but there's been too many bad reviews regarding durability of them and also I believe the experts on this site also suggests to beware of those big companies that may use less than quality materials.


As a rule, we recommend steering clear of larger brands, as you mentioned, they tend to use lower-quality materials that affect the useful life of the mattress. That said, if the materials in the mattress are durable enough for your BMI and offers the adequate support you need for your sleeping positions, it’s very possible that a big brand mattress may work for you.

Best of luck moving forward with your decision. Keep us posted.

Phoenix
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