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Looking for build-a-bed vendors that offer 15 ILD talalay 22 Oct 2020 21:56 #1

Hello!

Seven years ago I purchased a torture chamber (er, Savvy Rest) mattress with a medium Dunlop base, medium talalay middle layer, and soft talalay top layer.. From Day One I was in so much pain, that many nights I ended up sleeping on my couch. I finally switched out the middle layer for a soft talalay, and even THAT was too hard!. To make it bearable, I purchased TWO featherbeds and a wool topper that went on top. That finally was halfway comfortable, although not perfect. I have hated that mattress since the day I bought it, and will not go that route again unless I can find a soft talalay ILD.

Seven y ears later, the ol' body needs something new, as I constantly wake up stiff and in pain. (And, I'm getting weary of fluffing the featherbeds every morning, as when they go flat they, too, get firm.)

I went to a store and tried a Pure Talalay Bliss (Beautiful) that was.....heavenly (At least in the store.) BUT..the price point is a bit steep f or me ($4500 + for mattress and foundation). After dong some research, I found that the PTB mattress has 3" of 15 ILD, 3" of 24 ILD and 6" of 36 ILD. So, I thought I would try to replicate that combination in a DIY mattress. SleepEz seemed like a good starting point, but their softest ILD is 19. Same deal with some others I've researched.

So my question is: What DIY (build-your-own-bed) vendors offer both the 15 ILD and 24 ILD as options?

A second option I have considered is the Saatva plush, but I have read several online reviews from others who need/prefer a soft mattress that even their softest mattress is much too firm. And, I can understand why: their mattress has a VERY slim/thin layer of foam on top of the coils, which, I believe, are not individually wrapped, which would make the mattress more firm than one that has individually wrapped coils.

My preference is for a "health friendly" mattress, but I am beginning to think that all of the latex (health friendly) mattresses are firm little torture chambers--with the exception of the PTB. Sigh. Why can't someone make a plush, soft latex mattress that feels like a Simmons Beautyrest? I sleep like a baby on those when I travel and stay in hotels.

For context: I am 5'5" and weight 116 (thanks to the "Covid 10" I have gained. :/)

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Looking for build-a-bed vendors that offer 15 ILD talalay 25 Oct 2020 08:53 #2

Hey ShopperGirl,

Welcome back to the TMU forum :) ! Thanks for your question.

I went to a store and tried a Pure Talalay Bliss (Beautiful) that was.....heavenly (At least in the store.) BUT..the price point is a bit steep f or me ($4500 + for mattress and foundation). After dong some research, I found that the PTB mattress has 3" of 15 ILD, 3" of 24 ILD and 6" of 36 ILD. So, I thought I would try to replicate that combination in a DIY mattress. SleepEz seemed like a good starting point, but their softest ILD is 19. Same deal with some others I've researched.

Congrats on your new mattress shopping journey :) ! Good to hear that you have safe access to a nearby source for mattress testing and comparisons. Indeed, the Pure Talalay Bliss is a beautiful, all-talalay latex mattress manufactured in Connecticut by U.S supplier Talalay Global. Thanks for checking in with TMU expert trusted member SleepEZ as a research starting point. I know from their website that SleepEZ sources Talalay latex from Talalay Global. If you contact Sleep EZ directly, they may have suggestions for your search.

So my question is: What DIY (build-your-own-bed) vendors offer both the 15 ILD and 24 ILD as options?

As 15 ILD falls into the "super plush" category and would be more of a special request firmness, you may have better luck making a phone call and discussing your specific DIY needs with a manufacturer. Keep in mind however, that if you do find a resource that can special order for you, there may not be any remedy for an exchange/ return for a special order item.

A second option I have considered is the Saatva plush, but I have read several online reviews from others who need/prefer a soft mattress that even their softest mattress is much too firm. And, I can understand why: their mattress has a VERY slim/thin layer of foam on top of the coils, which, I believe, are not individually wrapped, which would make the mattress more firm than one that has individually wrapped coils.


From Saatva's site: the Saatva Plush's mattress's innerspring construction features a Euro pillow top over a dual support coil system. The low profile 14.5 gauge coils in the upper top layer are individually wrapped, followed by a 1/2 inch memory foam layer in the center/ lumbar area for pressure relief. The EVERFLEX coils in the bottom support layer are 13 gauge thickness, providing a firm support layer to the mattress. What could be happening here is that for individuals of lighter weights/ BMIs, this type heavier gauge dual coil construction could be a little on the firm side.

My preference is for a "health friendly" mattress, but I am beginning to think that all of the latex (health friendly) mattresses are firm little torture chambers--with the exception of the PTB. Sigh. Why can't someone make a plush, soft latex mattress that feels like a Simmons Beautyrest? I sleep like a baby on those when I travel and stay in hotels.

Don't be discouraged, ShopperGirl. You seem to have a good understanding of your preferences (talalay latex), a set budget, and a local resource for mattress testing. Stay on your current path and when you have time, please review the TMU trusted member directory, this listing includes manufacturers specializing in Latex/ All Latex mattresses .

Thanks,
Sensei
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Looking for build-a-bed vendors that offer 15 ILD talalay 25 Oct 2020 13:44 #3

Thanks for the PTB specs ShopperGirl! I almost have all those layers needed to recreate it. I do have to get the pure talalay bliss cover which I have a couple of sources for but I may want to use a tencel cover instead like posh & lavish so it wouldn't be an exact recreation but it would be pretty close. Also my layers would not be glued obviously like pure talalay bliss's. ☺

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Looking for build-a-bed vendors that offer 15 ILD talalay 25 Oct 2020 18:55 #4

Hey, that's great, Mr. Yabo! If you wouldn't mind letting me know where you source all of the final layers and cover, I'd be forever grateful! :) And, yes: I agree about getting something without the glue in the PTB product.

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