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Tatamiroom bed frame vs Thuma? 04 Feb 2021 09:00 #1

Hey gang! I am back after a long time (joined in 2014 and forgot what my username was...) I am still rocking my T&N 10 from when T&N first released it and it's showing some age but that is not what I am here for. I am here to finally get a nice frame.. I've been searching a long time and wanted a tatamiroom frame back when I first bought my 10 but on a publishing salary, a $600 bedframe was out of the question.

I am aware of the platform bed links and the whole thread discussion related to it.

I wanted to know if anyone here as experience (long term, more than 2 years) with the tatamiroom beds since they only offer a 1 year warranty.

I have my eyes on these two models:

The Tatamiroom Wakayama in king (if I ever decide to upgrade my bed to a king, I won't need to change my bedframe). tatamiroom.mybigcommerce.com/wakayama-platform-bed-natural-finish/
OR their Zen in the queen/king tatamiroom.mybigcommerce.com/zen-platform-bed-honey-oak/ <-- I am apprensive about this one because don't those legs look tiny for a bedframe? If the front and back panels were flat all along the length I wouldn't question it but the decision to have just small nubs for feet on what looks like a thinner piece of wood compared to bed leg/post is questionable to me.

The Thuma I only know of because of their Apple like marketing techniques but my understanding is it's an American company jumping on the Japanese home decor bandwagon and catering to a Western audience that is concerned with eco friendly, offgasing, etc.

Thoughts?

THANKS!

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Tatamiroom bed frame vs Thuma? 07 Feb 2021 10:12 #2

Hey undisclosed,

Welcome back to the Mattress Underground :) ! Thanks for your question.

I am still rocking my T&N 10 from when T&N first released it and it's showing some age but that is not what I am here for. I am here to finally get a nice frame.. I've been searching a long time and wanted a tatamiroom frame back when I first bought my 10 but on a publishing salary, a $600 bedframe was out of the question.


Great that your T&N is still going strong, undisclosed! It's nice to hear a sleep story with a "Happy Ending" and perhaps when you have time another day, you could drop us a line and tell TMU subscribers about your thoughts on life with your Tuft & Needle 10 mattress.

I am aware of the platform bed links and the whole thread discussion related to it. I wanted to know if anyone here as experience (long term, more than 2 years) with the tatamiroom beds since they only offer a 1 year warranty.


While you are waiting for consumer response to your question ( I am not personally familiar with Tatami Room products), lets take a construction peek at your candidates.

I have my eyes on these two models:

The Tatamiroom Wakayama in king (if I ever decide to upgrade my bed to a king, I won't need to change my bedframe). tatamiroom.mybigcommerce.com/wakayama-platform-bed-natural-finish/


The king Wakayama Platform Bed construction uses solid hardwood/ Parawood featuring a center support with two center support legs and 14 wooden slats positioned less than 2" apart. One detail that you may want to research is whether anyone has experienced "creaking" or "squeaking" sounds that sometimes wood-to-wood contacts on the bed can produce with movement. The construction overall appears sound; however, a couple of caveats post-purchase to consider: from Tatimi Room's site, the return policy is a full refund 30 days within receipt of shipment, less shipping and handling fees, so if you're fairly confident you won't be returning the platform bed, this shouldn't be a deal breaker. I couldn't find any mention of a product warranty, so for a purchase with this size price tag, you would want to contact Tatimi and ask what (if any, you mention knowledge of a year warranty) future recourse would you have should you encounter problems and get those details in writing for your records.

OR their Zen in the queen/king tatamiroom.mybigcommerce.com/zen-platform-bed-honey-oak/ <-- I am apprensive about this one because don't those legs look tiny for a bedframe? If the front and back panels were flat all along the length I wouldn't question it but the decision to have just small nubs for feet on what looks like a thinner piece of wood compared to bed leg/post is questionable to me.


I was somewhat underwhelmed by the product information/ lack thereof for the Zen Platform bed. The "nubs" for feet appear to be a cutaway design element of both the headboard and footboard and not a separate thinner piece of wood. It would be helpful to see the same type assembly diagram that the Wakayama Platform bed's description included to verify all of the construction specs. From the product images, the Zen appears to have only one center support leg vs. the Wakayama's two; that may or may not be a concern, depending on the overall weight the platform would be supporting. I couldn't verify weight capacity's for either of the Tatami platform beds from their site.

The Thuma I only know of because of their Apple like marketing techniques but my understanding is it's an American company jumping on the Japanese home decor bandwagon and catering to a Western audience that is concerned with eco friendly, offgasing, etc. Thoughts? THANKS!


The Thuma platform bed seems an interesting option. It incorporates Japanese-influenced design and uses a variety of upcycled and repurposed construction materials. I watched the set up video from their site, and that they use no tools, a simple process, and one-person management looks appealing. A low profile design incorporating 9" of storage space underneath is a nice touch too. Their rounded corner leg design is thoughtful as some consumers have mentioned toe/ shin stubs with some of the squared off legs. The slats are spaced a little less than 3" apart, making it suitable for your T&N 10. The platform bed is constructed of "repurposed" rubberwood, the slats are reinforced with eco-fi felt for sound reduction and the bed specs say it has a +1,500 lb. weight capacity. Thurma offers a 100 night risk free trial and while they state "The Bed and The Nightstand are built to last and backed with a lifetime warranty," no warranty details are listed on their site, so again, you would want to seek verification and written details for your records prior to purchase.

Any of these 3 platform beds should be suitable for your 10" T&N mattress. I always like to remind consumers when shopping for a new foundation to review their mattress warranty as each manufacturer will state what foundations will best provide optimal performance for the life of their product. From Tuft & Needle's warranty page : Please note that “normal wear” assumes and requires that your mattress is continuously supported by a proper foundation sufficient to support the distributed weight of your body and the mattress itself. If you have questions about whether the foundation you are using or intend to use is adequate, please contact support@tuftandneedle.com. Hope this helps with your research and perhaps some consumers will stop by and share their experiences with you soon ;) .

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Tatamiroom bed frame vs Thuma? 06 Apr 2021 04:49 #3

I reached out to Thuma and asked about the slats-they said they were made of “double-strength” plywood. I really like the design of this bed but with a heavy latex mattress, will plywood be supportive enough or will there be sagging?

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Tatamiroom bed frame vs Thuma? 07 Apr 2021 09:26 #4

Hey caalie,

Thanks for your update to this post :) .

I reached out to Thuma and asked about the slats-they said they were made of “double-strength” plywood. I really like the design of this bed but with a heavy latex mattress, will plywood be supportive enough or will there be sagging?


Good job on the check-in with Thuma! Thanks for sharing the slats' construction, as their site doesn't mention that double-strength plywood is part of The Bed's repurposed rubberwood components. From Thuma's product assembly video the slat composition appears sturdy; however, with no personal experience of The Bed, this would be speculation. What did Thuma say regarding use of a king size all-latex mattress on their platform? The Thuma site states that The Bed supports +1500 lbs. of weight, but whether the slats have a softer, flex feel to them or not would be different from a sagging/ lack of support issue. They do offer a 100 day return policy and while I'm not an advocate of "experimenting and returning", this would provide a remedy in the event of actual failure of the platform bed's ability to correctly support your mattress. Hope this helps… ;) .

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Tatamiroom bed frame vs Thuma? 07 Apr 2021 12:29 #5

They said "it's strong!".

I read a negative review about slats falling out of frame, and I assume this can only happen if they are bending under weight of matress and occupants.
I don't know if this sort of thing happens with hardwood slats but not willing to take a chance on plywood since our layered mattress is a pain to take apart and put together.

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Tatamiroom bed frame vs Thuma? 09 Apr 2021 08:48 #6

Hey caalie,

Thanks for your reply :) .

They said "it's strong!".


Lol, "strong"; that's quite a measurable, quantitative statement:side!

I read a negative review about slats falling out of frame, and I assume this can only happen if they are bending under weight of matress and occupants.
I don't know if this sort of thing happens with hardwood slats but not willing to take a chance on plywood since our layered mattress is a pain to take apart and put together.


It's best to go with your gut in some cases, especially if you know that dealing with the layered mattress itself is going to be difficult. You shouldn't have problems with a quality hardwood slatted platform as long as the slats are sturdy and of appropriate thickness/ spacing for your king all-latex mattress. How is your research going? Any new developments?

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