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Very hot sleeper - need help. 18 Apr 2021 15:39 #1

Hello mattress underground. I'm in desperate need of help... I recently found out i'm an excessively hot sleeper around 2019 when i switched out my old mattress for a hand-me-down from my aunt. Ever since then, not a single bed has been adequate. For reference, i'm a 30 year old male, i'm about 6" 1' and I weigh 380lbs and I've been this weight for most of my life.

My bed history, so far.

Bed 1 i slept on since 2001 and then gave it up in 2019.
i.imgur.com/kUtFsfy.png This is the only picture i have of it. I do not remember what brand it was, but heat was never an issue with it. The only time i ever needed a fan or similar with it, was the hottest days of summer. All i know is, it was some kind of innerspring, possibly Bonnell Coil, and it had a thin layer of padding on top. You could feel the springs if you pressed your hand hard enough, which never bothered me. It was both supportive but let you sink in enough to give you this sorta "sleeping on a cloud" like feeling. it was a name brand, i wanna say... Sealy or Serta, but i don't remember. It was so good at regulating my temperature that in the winter I'd put flannel sheets on and an extra thick duvet to be extra warm and cozy.

Bed 2 was a hand-me-down from my aunt. It slept super hot, which wouldn't have been a problem... if it didn't cause me to stay up all night. That's my main issue with the heat, i will not fall asleep if i'm too hot, period. This can last up to three days if I'm unable to find a remedy. And that really makes life insufferable. I do not recall the brand or the materials, but it was a super thick mattress.

Bed 3 was my grandma's old bed, and it too slept pretty hot. It was a "Simmons Beautyrest Do not Disturb" my grandma got around 2005. It was a double-sided, pocketed coil mattress with two inches of regular polyurethane foam padding. Here's the weird thing... I've slept on this bed before I switched it out with my aunt's. That was my motivation in fact. And in all that time, i never had an issue with it. Not until i slept on my aunt's bed. It was too hot. A fan worked... until it didn't. I managed to make it through a pretty hot summer on it in 2019 using a fan or two, but come spring 2020 that just didn't work anymore... and I don't know why...

Bed 4 -- my current mattress -- is a Joybed LX joybeds.com/lx-natural-mattress.html (link for more info). I was excited when i first discovered it. From my research it appeared that foam was the culprit in my hot sleepless nights. So I jumped at the chance to get a Joybed when I had the money for it. And at only $1,190 I thought it'd be the perfect deal. No foam, cotton and wool and pocketed coils. It should be perfect. Unfortunately that didn't prove to be the case... While it wasn't as hot as Bed 2 or my Bed 3... it was still too hot to make a difference. I still required a fan on to sleep, even on cooler nights. The upside was... if it was cool enough outside I could sleep without a fan on if I left my door open or a window. But anything above 44f required a fan. However as spring 2021 ramps up... I'm starting to see a pattern. The fan doesn't work for some reason, again... Last night was 50f outside, i had a window and a door open with the fan running and i didn't get any sleep, and I'm afraid that things will get worse as the weather gets warmer.

I really don't get what's going on here, why does my fan work through summer but then stop when the weather turns to spring? Why do i have such a huge issue with heat? My family is always cold, my parents slept in a memory foam mattress without a single complaint for years, what the hell makes me different? Why did my third bed work for years when my grandma own it, but the moment i own it it's like sleeping on a hot grill?

Other things i've tried.

Gel-infused memory foam topper - i got one for Bed 3 and it worked for about two weeks and then just slept hot like usual. Could it have just been cheep? I got it for about $100 on Amazon. Would a higher quality topper like this last longer?

Bedjet - doesn't seem to work that well for me. And it's a bit noisy. However i may have been using it wrong so it might require further experimentation.

Beautyred Black Hybrid - got a chance to test this out for a few days at a friend's house. Didn't work, the "cooling" technology inside was not as promised, was one of the hottest beds i've slept in.


Things i'm considering:

Purple - (everyone knows what this is, i don't think i need a link) Has a good reputation for sleeping cool, but mixed reviews in comfort and durability. Also very expensive, the purple 4 is suppose to be better for someone of my weight, but it's their most expensive mattress.

Latex hybrid - I'm somewhat skeptical of a latex mattress, even a hybrid, because the current mattress i'm on is foam free and it's still pretty hot. I don't know if Latex is suppose to be better than a cotton/wool mattress. But they are a little bit cheaper than a purple.

Parachute Mattress - www.parachutehome.com/products/mattress suggested by someone on Reddit. Looks promising, might be more breathable than the Joybed, but still kind of skeptical. Also expensive, and as a guy without a job right now, that makes most things out of my budget.

Air Mattress - a good temporary fix, but like i said, i don't know how good it'll be for me or how long it'll last, and i don't know how long i'm going to be unemployed for.

Winkbed - Skeptical on winkbed, some have said it's pretty temperature neutral and it's good for overweight people. But it's got foam in it...

DIY Bed - A potential for an inexpensive bed that'll last and might give me what i want. I just don't know where to begin...

Chilipad - seems promising and less expensive than a new mattress, but i'm worried about leaking and noise. I already find fans to be annoying enough, but i don't know how loud a Chilipad is.

Phase Change Material - skeptical, heard mixed reviews on effectiveness. Some have stated that it will keep you cool for a moment then reflect heat back at you like memory foam does.

Has anyone else had similar experiences to me? Do any of you have better recommendations? Does my sleeping hot issues seem particularly weird to anyone? I'm not the only person of my weight that i know of and none of them complain about sleeping hot. Could it be medical? Why did bed 2 work when my grandma owned it, but not when i owned it? I'm using the same sheets i've used for years, the ones that worked just fine on Bed 1, so i don't think it could be that. How could Bed 4, an all cotton and wool mattress... sleep hot? Why would a fan work perfectly fine during the summer, but then not work when the weather warms up again? I'm really confused, i'm really desperate and i could really use some answers.

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Very hot sleeper - need help. 18 Apr 2021 21:13 #2

I am a hot sleeper too and what has worked best for me are foam free mattresses. I have a Vispring which I love. It is not the cheapest brand but most mattresses on the market use foam.

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Very hot sleeper - need help. 18 Apr 2021 22:13 #3

Well like i mentioned, i'm on a foam free mattress now (Joybed) and it still sleeps hot.

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Very hot sleeper - need help. 19 Apr 2021 07:52 #4

Ah, my mistake. Maybe it is the fire retardant plant layer at the top of the mattress that is hot? Bamboo sheets sleep hot.

You could also consider something like the Intellibed. They do use some foam (not memory foam) but the foam layers are perforated and minimal as it is a gel matrix and coil springs that do most of the work.

You have been at your current weight most of your life but that doesn't mean your hormones are staying the same. It is possible that you will need to lose weight to sleep cool again.

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Very hot sleeper - need help. 19 Apr 2021 12:09 #5

I have also considered intellibed, but their price and use of foam was off putting to me.

The general consensus is generally my weight, and i am attempting to lose it. (though this has been difficult with the mediocre sleep). I'm hoping it will help, since it'd be nice it would mean more beds would be available for consideration.

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Very hot sleeper - need help. 20 Apr 2021 17:00 #6

Microcoils/ nano coils sleep very cool for me. Out of your choices I would try parachute or purple 1st. You can always return either if they dont work for you. Have you considered the naturepedic eos w/ microcoils?

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Very hot sleeper - need help. 20 Apr 2021 21:51 #7

looks promising, but again... expensive. I still don't have a job yet, so anything in the thousands range is out of my reach.

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Very hot sleeper - need help. 24 Apr 2021 07:26 #8

Hey Cuboos,

Welcome to TMU :) ! Good to meet you and thanks for your question.

Hello mattress underground. I'm in desperate need of help... I recently found out i'm an excessively hot sleeper around 2019 when i switched out my old mattress for a hand-me-down from my aunt. Ever since then, not a single bed has been adequate. For reference, i'm a 30 year old male, i'm about 6" 1' and I weigh 380lbs and I've been this weight for most of my life.


Thanks for the excellently crafted details of your previous bed history, Cuboos, they are most helpful. To be clear: did you first realize that you have become an excessively hot sleeper sometime during the year 2019? I can only imagine how frustrating these past years have been while dealing with that issue. "Sleeping hot" is one of the more common sleep disruptions and one of the deeper riddles to solve as every aspect of personal comfort is individual and subjective for each person. What is your preferred sleep position(s)? What size bed are you looking for and what is your budget for purchase? Do you have COVID-safe showrooms nearby for mattress testing and comparison? For brevity, I'll be working with the summary below for more conversation.

Has anyone else had similar experiences to me? Do any of you have better recommendations? Does my sleeping hot issues seem particularly weird to anyone? I'm not the only person of my weight that i know of and none of them complain about sleeping hot. Could it be medical?


I have no medical expertise and cannot offer any professional opinions on your situation. However, you may consider visiting your physician for a checkup and rule out any potential health concerns that have developed since your initial awareness of developing excessively hot sleeping patterns. High blood pressure, thyroid issues, and any number of hormonal imbalances can trigger night sweats and heat sensitivity, as well as contribute to other physical problems. 30 years old is a good age for a benchmark checkup to ensure that a newly-developed underlying condition isn't the root cause for your sudden temperature sensitivity. Hopefully, you won't have any health problems and can then start crossing off other potential heat retention sources such as sheets, pillows, encasements, bed clothes, etc.

Why did bed 2 work when my grandma owned it, but not when i owned it? I'm using the same sheets i've used for years, the ones that worked just fine on Bed 1, so i don't think it could be that. How could Bed 4, an all cotton and wool mattress... sleep hot? Why would a fan work perfectly fine during the summer, but then not work when the weather warms up again? I'm really confused, i'm really desperate and i could really use some answers.


Cuboos, I wish I could offer an explanation for your questions, but the only one that comes to mind is pretty nebulous: "It's hard to say why." Especially with the fan thing, I totally don't get the seasonality of its periodic usefulness. Thanks to all of the TMU consumers who offered counsel and hope you find the temperature relief that you seek soon. Do you have any updates on your research?

Thanks,
Sensei
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