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29 Aug 2018 18:24 - 30 Aug 2018 06:52 #161 by AUS10
I plan on going to The Mattress Factory this Saturday. I called and spoke with a rep (not Peter) and he said they are using dunlop cores with talalay top layers.

I see the thickets latex mattress they make is 10" thickness while some other companies like Flexuscomfort sell a 13" mattress. I'm assuming these thicker 13" mattress's aren't meant to be flipped when arranged in S / M / H configuration. I was wondering if there is a benefit to having a 13" latex mattress vs a 10" latex mattress. I understand the longevity of a 10" that can be flipped could possibly be longer. However, would the 13" be inherently better or are those 3" not noticeable when your laying on the bed.

What are the specs of the mattress you bought from The Mattress Factory Phoenix? Layer thickness and IDL of each layer? I'm just curious in what works best for you and I understand that a lot of mattress choices are subjective.
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30 Aug 2018 21:02 #162 by Phoenix
Hi Asus10.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum! :)

I see the thickets latex mattress they make is 10" thickness while some other companies like Flexuscomfort sell a 13" mattress. I'm assuming these thicker 13" mattress's aren't meant to be flipped when arranged in S / M / H configuration. I was wondering if there is a benefit to having a 13" latex mattress vs a 10" latex mattress.


The main benefit of a thicker latex mattress is that it can be more adaptable for heavier weights and multiple sleeping positions. It will compress from softer to firmer more gradually which means that there is more "range" of compression without the mattress becoming too firm for heavier weights (or parts of the body). It can even just be a matter of preference rather than "need” In the large majority of cases ... 8" - 9" of latex is easily enough to include the combination softer layers (or sometimes sections) for pressure relief and firmer layers for support that most people of average or even higher weights would need. In some cases ... lighter weights or people that sleep in "flatter" sleeping positions, have slimmer less curvy body types, or who prefer a firmer mattress will do well with even 6" even though there is less "room" to design in different layers in the mattress. People that have much higher body weights or larger body types may choose more than the "average" thickness and may prefer the feel and extra adaptability of say 12" of latex. Thicker mattresses can also use firmer materials because thickness and softness are very related and work together. The Mattress Factory has two-sided mattress designs which are very different than the Flexus comfort’s component style system designs that have a zippered cover that allows for rearranging the layers inside for any changes in comfort/support overtime.

What are the specs of the mattress you bought from The Mattress Factory Phoenix? Layer thickness and IDL of each layer? I'm just curious in what works best for you and I understand that a lot of mattress choices are subjective.


Our mattress (before the mattress surgery we performed a few years later) was a two-sided mattress with a support core in the middle (3” + 4” + 3””) The core was Talalay Latex @ 28 ILD and then identical comfort layers 22 ILD with quilting, on each side with a 0 .4" quiltable latex and a down substitute fiber with an inherent viscose fiber fire retardant . This mattress would be probably too soft for most people and, generallym I wouldn’t recommend this construction unless thera are some specific needs. While it served us well for many years due to my TMG condition I had to change sleeping positions from side sleeping to back sleeping and we performed mattress surgery and removed one of the soft layers. After we tested the new configuration for comfort and support we got an organic mattress cover from SleepEZ to enclose the two layers and I couldn't be more happy with it. At the time durablilty was one of our considerations and we chose a mattress that could be flipped for more even wear and greater durability because you are only using each side for half the time and it gives the unused layer time to recover somewhat, but as you can see life had different plans for us.

I am glad that you live close enough to The Mattress Factory and that you visit them and test try a few of their mattresses as this will reveal much more about your mattress needs and preferences. . As you are aware, both The Mattress Factory and Flexus Comfort are Trusted Members of our site which means that I think very highly of them and that I believe that they compete well with best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, knowledge, and transparency.

I look forward to any updates after your visit on Saturday to The Mattress Factory. Don’t forget to use your TMU coupon to get a discount.

Phoenix

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31 Aug 2018 08:28 - 31 Aug 2018 08:49 #163 by AUS10
Thanks for the reply. I've been sleeping on a sleep number bed set to 100 for probably the last 4 years. The air mattress just offer no support under my hips when deflated so I've been forced to sleep with a higher number which is giving me pressure point problem in my upper back (back/side sleeper). I also have a BMI of 30.6 (5'9" and 207lb) but I plan to probably go down to around 180 in the future as this is heavy for me.

Their current configurations before doing anything custom are 2/6/2 for a full latex 10" mattress at the Mattress Factory. I know I want something a little softer so I'm thinking I will like a 28/36/28 but I will know for sure once I start laying on them. I may get a softer topper if I want something softer than that instead of making the mattress it's self softer.

Also, have you written anywhere explaining the differences in the feeling and pros/cons of a mattress with changeable layers and a bed that is made static (can't remember the term).



Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge.
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01 Sep 2018 22:41 #164 by AUS10
I went to The Mattress Factory today and City Mattress Factory. The City Mattress Factory had a few latex models on the floor but all of the comfort layers had an ILD of 19 which felt very bouncy and unstable for my liking. After that I went to The Mattress Factory and they only had 34-36 ILD beds on the show room floor which seemed a little more stiff than what I was looking for. However, I was able to put a 2" layer of memory foam on top of the 36 ILD bed and it felt much better but I still want to see what the mid to upper 20 ILD's feel like.

Peters son at The Mattress Facotry is going to find some mid range ILD's in the factory for me and I will test them on top of the 36 ILD bed to see how it feels. I'm currently thinking right now of a 10" mattress (28 - 2", 36 - 6", 28 - 2") with a 2" topper of memory foam as I'm really liking the way the memory foam feels.

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17 Oct 2018 13:10 #165 by TXYogimom
My first post! I am in the DFW metro area on the North Dallas side. I was hoping to avoid a trip over to Ft. Worth. My first venture out from behind my desktop was to Lewisville to Sleep Craft. I found a flippable pillowtop latex / coil hybrid I really liked. The latex on the up side was 24 ILD, which was awesome - but I could order it however I wanted with same or different on the other side. Unfortunately, I have not been able to get anything in writing regarding specs or warranty. Tod no longer owns the business. He sold it at some point. The mattresses are now manufactured in Carrollton, I was told by Steve Cloud (nice name) Sales Rep. Steve is nice enough but not very transparent. Just a lot of "we take care of our customers".

I also ventured up to United & Holland in Denton. They too have outsourced the manufacturing of their mattresses - to City Mattress in Fort Worth. There was no flexibility here on customizing anything. They did have some models with latex, but only 1 and a half inches - which I determined was not enough for me. The one I did like was another pillowtop design with the pillowtop being 2 to 3 inches of latex.

I am in the market for a King size mattress. I am interested in a coil/ latex hybrid. I think I like the zip off cover design without glued layers so that it can be adjusted in the future. I am concerned that the latex inside the zip off cover even at 3 inches will feel firmer than the one I believe was 24 ILD in a pillowtop configuration. Perhaps this depends on the cover itself?

I will need a return policy - and who (Members) makes these zip off covers with handles? I really want handles on the sides.

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21 Mar 2019 11:35 #166 by neverender
Like most people in this thread I will also be checking out The Mattress Factory very soon. This entire process is insane. Buying a mattress is like buying a car except with buying a mattress you do the opposite when it comes to brands. Basically if I have heard of a brand then do not buy that brand. Learning about all the different types of materials that make up a quality mattress is way more complicated than I thought but I am glad I found this site and all of the knowledge that is shared with the community. I have begun to read a lot of the material provided and started taking notes.

I was sad to find out that www.bedroomshop.com/ Arlington, TX. went out of business at the end of 2018. I had driven past that place for years and had no idea they had such a good reputation.

I do have a couple of questions about latex mattresses. A latex mattress does not have coils, correct? What is the difference in weight between a latex mattress and a coil mattress? Is the latex mattress significantly heavier than a coil mattress?

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21 Mar 2019 17:47 #167 by lotus14
Nest Bedding makes coil/latex hybrid mattresses as well as all latex ones. A google search for "hybrid latex mattress" will yield many others.

Weight depends on the coil mattress. Most I've seen are pillow top or hybrids and can be quite heavy depending on how much memory foam is used. My queen 14" Beautyrest Platinum Hybrid (do NOT recommend) was 140 lbs since it had 6 inches of memory foam layers over 7" coils.

The 10" queen all latex mattresses I'm familiar with run 125 - 140 lbs. A hybrid latex mattress might be lighter.

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22 Mar 2019 22:43 - 22 Mar 2019 22:52 #168 by Phoenix
H neverender,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :)!

I appreciate your post and kind words about the TMU community. Many thanks! :) It looks like you’ve been doing quite a bit of reading and researching but I just want to make sure you’ve also read a couple of articles about the mattress cores and the differences between them in these articles: mattress support core overview and innerspring cores and latex support cores that will help with some of your questions. Good to hear that you'll be visiting The Mattress Factory soon as you know they are a trusted member of the site with many quality/value choices and a great deal of knowledge in mattress manufacturing.

Buying a mattress is like buying a car except with buying a mattress you do the opposite when it comes to brands. Basically, if I have heard of a brand then do not buy that brand


What a great line this is and so true, but it's almost like the beginning of a joke you may tell….

What is the difference in weight between a latex mattress and a coil mattress? Is the latex mattress significantly heavier than a coil mattress?


And to make things more confusing, a “latex hybrid mattress” has both layers of latex and also a support core made of innerspring!! One of our trusted members , Luma Sleep has a great [url=http://http://bit.ly/TMU-LumaCompare] mattress comparison page[/url] and on the bottom of this page, you can download a pdf spec ( just click here ) that shows all specs, heights, and weights. One Hybrid king 11.5" mattress weighs 148 lbs, vs the King size 11” All Latex mattress weighs 218lbs. which is a significant difference.

Generally speaking, a layer of latex would weigh much more than the same size coil layer. Also, the weight of the latex would depend on the type of latex it was and its firmness (Dunlop is heavier than Talalay and firmer latex is denser than softer latex) but if it's Dunlop it would be somewhere in the range of 5 lbs / cu ft or so (depending on the firmness level) and at 6" thick it would weigh over 100 lbs. For foam mattresses to calculate the weight I use the thickness of each layer in inches multiplied by the width and length of the layer and divided by 1728 (the number of cubic inches in a cubic foot) and then multiply the total by the density to get the total weight of the layer (or at least what it should be).

I'm looking forward to finding out what you end up deciding ... and of course, any additional comments or questions you may have along the way that I or any of the expert members of the site can help with. Thank you again.

Phoenix

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26 Mar 2019 12:10 #169 by neverender
Thanks for the information Phoenix. I am still doing my homework and I am getting a better understanding latex mattresses, coil mattresses and hybrids. I have also been watching the vids by The Beducator™, Mattress To Go owner Jeff Scheuer. I see that he is also a member and contributor to the forum. I have not had a chance to visit any of the DFW locations yet but in the next few weeks my wife and I will be going to try some different mattresses out. Thanks again for all of the information.

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27 Mar 2019 19:24 #170 by Phoenix
Hi neverender,

Thanks again for the kind words. Yes, Mattress-To-Go / Beducator has some great videos worth watching while doing your "homework". Jeff is certainly one of our valued trusted members of the site and we hope that with so much good information available you'll be able to soon test and narrow down to a few good beds that fit your needs and preferences. Glad to hear that you are doing your due diligence and research and, of course, please don't hesitate to post any questions you may have.

We are looking forward to hearing how testing works out for you.

Phoenix

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