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Factory Direct mattress manufacturers - Dallas/Ft Worth

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07 Sep 2013 23:23 - 07 Sep 2013 23:27 #21 by Phoenix
Hi MEENag,

We were told by the owner that he didn't believe that The Mattress Factory was using 100% Talalay comfort layers (because of knowledge that the only distributor doesn't sell to the mattress factory).


There are two different types of Talalay latex. One is blended talalay and the other is 100% natural Talalay. Both of these are 100% Talalay (which is the process used to make the material not the type of raw latex itself). Having said that I was also told by Peter that he was no longer using Talalay at all and only using Dunlop and yet I have also heard feedback that they have told people that they were. I would hold off on any purchase here until I have had the chance to talk with him to confirm whether he is once again using Talalay in his mattresses because they may be mixing up the two types of latex. The Talalay latex that Sleepcraft is using is 100% natural Talalay (which is rated for softness and firmness from N1 to N5 instead of ILD).

I personally would have no issue with having different layers with different firmness levels of latex in the same mattress because that's how you can create different designs that can change the balance between the comfort and support of a latex mattress. There are many manufacturers across the country that build multi layer latex mattresses. While many manufacturers also use a single latex layer with a choice of firmness levels with a thin quilting layer on either side ... this is certainly not the only effective way to design a latex mattress and there are many people who prefer a mattress with softer layers of latex over a firmer support core or in some cases even several layers. Many manufacturers also use a box spring with a single layer mattress instead of a foundation to create more "give" in the mattress which can also be an effective combination. In the end this boils down to which mattress works best for you.

It's true that the softer comfort layers will soften or break down more quickly than the deeper support layers that are firmer but this is true of any mattress and it's just part of how a mattress wears over time. The tradeoff may be a mattress that is more suitable in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) vs a mattress that lasts a little longer that isn't as suitable for your specific needs and preferences. It's like having a choice of sleeping better for a little shorter period of time or sleeping worse for a little longer. Of course if a single layer mattress is perfect for you then it becomes a moot point because there would be no benefit to adding a comfort layer that you didn't need.

If you are within reasonable driving distance ... I would also consider paying a visit to the fourth manufacturer in the Dallas area since you have visited the other three anyway because they are also making some good quality mattresses.

Phoenix

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Last edit: 07 Sep 2013 23:27 by Phoenix.

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08 Sep 2013 14:45 #22 by MEENag
Phoenix,
I appreciate all of the great info and thoughts you provided. I look forward to reading what you learn about The Mattress Factory using Talalay from Peter.
I'm quite impressed by the promptness of your replies, along with the thoroughness. This seems like a pretty well trafficked forum so it has to be difficult to keep up with.
Thanks for your help.
Jeff

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08 Sep 2013 19:53 - 08 Sep 2013 19:53 #23 by Phoenix
Hi Meenag,

I'll post here as soon as I know.

I'm quite impressed by the promptness of your replies, along with the thoroughness. This seems like a pretty well trafficked forum so it has to be difficult to keep up with.


Thanks for the kind words.

I'm gradually learning how to make do with less sleep ... and I've learned to type a lot faster than when I first started :)

Phoenix

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09 Sep 2013 11:58 #24 by Big-D Dave
MEENag,

Thanks for your write up on your store visits. We are in a similar predicament, latex vs memory foam, and we have been thinking about making the trek over to Fort Worth to look at mattresses. Let us know what you wind up doing.

Dave

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09 Sep 2013 16:23 - 09 Sep 2013 16:24 #25 by Phoenix
Hi Meenag,

I talked with Peter today and he confirmed that they are once again supplying Talalay latex for the comfort layers and that their core is Dunlop so the information they are providing is correct :)

Phoenix

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09 Sep 2013 22:58 #26 by MEENag
BIG THANKS for following up with Peter and getting that information! I think that is the way we are going to go. I'd like to see if he has options for comfort layer density and whether the cover is quilted to another layer of thin latex(their website reads that way), so I think I'll give him a call in the next couple of days. Thanks again for your effort. I'm really impressed with your knowledge and helpfulness.
Jeff

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12 Sep 2013 20:46 - 12 Sep 2013 20:48 #27 by SlowGrind
Thanks to this thread and reading for few days straight. Going to visit the mattress factory in FW this Saturday. Hopefully they have an experienced person to help get the correct mattress. Thanks for this great forum.
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13 Sep 2013 10:18 #28 by Phoenix
Hi Slowgrind and MeeNag,

I'm looking forward to the feedback about your experiences from both of you.

It might be worth calling before you go to make sure Peter will be there because based some of the comments here the person that replaces him when he is off isn't as knowledgeable as he is.

Phoenix

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13 Sep 2013 23:16 #29 by MEENag
After talking to Peter on the phone (his preferred method) and via email, we decided to order one of his latex mattresses. It has a 6" 100% latex 36 ILD (i think) Dunlop core with 2" 100% latex 28 ILD Talalay comfort layers of both sides. The other option was 36 ILD Talalay comfort layers. When we tried the 28 ILD in the store we liked it but thought we wanted to try something a little softer. They don't make a softer latex mattress but Peter told me that he could order 19-20 ILD 2" Talalay if we really wanted it. He recommended getting the 28 ILD and trying it for a few weeks and if we still want the softer latex, he will switch it out for us. I sent him an email on Thursday to place the order, he called on Friday(today) to say he was making it that day and it will be delivered tomorrow morning (Saturday). So far dealing with Peter and the Mattress Factory has been great. I hope the actual product continues that. I'll report back my experiences with it.
I'm very thankful for this website and the work that you do Phoenix. I find myself wanting to get into mattress conversions with friends and coworkers just so I can pass on what I've learned and direct them to this site. Thanks again!
Jeff

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13 Sep 2013 23:45 - 13 Sep 2013 23:47 #30 by Phoenix
Hi MEENag,

The other option was 36 ILD Talalay comfort layers.


That would be very firm (probably too firm) for most people and 28 ILD would be much closer to the norm (depending on what was in the quilting in the cover).

I think his advice is probably good if you have tested the combination ... especially if you can replace it for softer latex if you need to. You can also add a topper if necessary if you need comfort layers that are just a bit softer or thicker as well.

I'm very thankful for this website and the work that you do Phoenix. I find myself wanting to get into mattress conversions with friends and coworkers just so I can pass on what I've learned and direct them to this site. Thanks again!


Thanks for the kind words ... and the more people that can learn that there really is a better way to choose a mattress and the less the major manufacturers dominate the industry ... the better it will be for consumers in general. You are probably more of an "expert" now than most of the people who sell mattresses in the mainstream industry!

Congratulations on your new mattress ... and I'm looking forward to your feedback when you've had the chance to sleep on it :)

Phoenix

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