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Factory Direct mattress manufacturers - Dallas/Ft Worth

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07 Feb 2014 18:06 - 07 Feb 2014 18:44 #41 by slotshot
I have been avidly devouring the contents of this website all afternoon. We have called both of the businesses recommended first in this thread and will be visiting The Mattress Factory tomorrow. Given that a couple of other websites indicate that a comfort layer of 28 ILD is still very slightly firm for side sleepers (such as myself and my wife) I am surprised that Peter's lowest in-stock ILD Talalay is a 28 rating. Perhaps I can ask for some clarity from you Phoenix... would you agree that most side sleepers prefer an ILD between 24 and 26??

Finally, does a 2" Talalay comfort layer seem a bit thin over the firmer core?

Thanks!

Craig
Euless, TX
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07 Feb 2014 20:27 - 07 Feb 2014 20:29 #42 by Phoenix
Hi slotshot,

Perhaps I can ask for some clarity from you Phoenix... would you agree that most side sleepers prefer an ILD between 24 and 26??


It really depends on the specifics of all the layers of a mattress not on one specific layer but in general side sleepers will prefer softer or thicker comfort layers (and some even softer than 24). There is no "formula" though that can predict what any specific person will do best with in terms of PPP and I would always go by your personal testing based on how all the layers or components in the mattress interact with your body type and sleeping positions and avoid the "temptation" to try to use specs or ILD to try and "imagine" what something will feel like until you have some good reference points based on personal experience.

Finally, does a 2" Talalay comfort layer seem a bit thin over the firmer core?


Again ... this will depend entirely on how well it works for you in terms of PPP. For some people the answer may be yes and for others it may be no and only your own experience can give you the reference points that can really answer these types of "comfort" questions.

Phoenix

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07 Feb 2014 21:04 #43 by RidgeWhitlock
Slotshot, having been to the Mattress Factory recently I'd ask Peter what ILD core he used in his demo model(s). I found it quite firmer than I expected for a 28ILD Talalay comfort layer, and I suspect that a too-firm core may have had something to do with it. As Phoenix said though, your perception may vary from mine based on your body type.

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08 Feb 2014 05:51 #44 by slotshot
Thanks for the wisdom. I will report back with what we find. Also, one last question... Phoenix you indicated that you ordered a two sided mattress. Does this mean that the mattress you ordered had comfort layers on both sides and could be flipped? Is this something we should be certain was part of our construction?

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Craig

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08 Feb 2014 06:25 #45 by KayJazz
Craig,
I will be curious of your findings today as well. I purchased a 36 ILD 10 days ago and as a side sleeper I'm finding it just a bit too firm. For sure I will need to change to the 28 ILD. Mine is a 2 sided which means I can flip the mattress.
Thanks - KayJazz
Bedford

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08 Feb 2014 10:04 - 08 Feb 2014 10:05 #46 by Phoenix
Hi slotshot,

Phoenix you indicated that you ordered a two sided mattress. Does this mean that the mattress you ordered had comfort layers on both sides and could be flipped?


Yes

Is this something we should be certain was part of our construction?


That's entirely up to each person's personal value equation. Its certainly not necessary but a two sided construction can extend the life of a mattress even with a material as durable as latex (as long as you flip it). There is more about the pros and cons of a two sided mattress in posts #2 and #3 here and the posts it links to.

Phoenix

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08 Feb 2014 13:31 - 08 Feb 2014 13:32 #47 by slotshot
Quick update - we went and visited Peter at his facility today. As previously mentioned by other posters, he was extremely nice and knowledgeable. We tried out a series of different ILD combinations (felt like Goldilocks) and we both agreed that the 24 ILD Talalay comfort layer with a 28 Dunlop support core was too soft. Likewise, the 34/36 (I think) was too firm. We settled on a dual sided 28 ILD Talalay comfort layer with a 34 ILD Dunlop core as a nice compromise. Of course, Peter indicated that if it turned out we ended up having firmness issues he would take care of them. In addition, a current sale he was having had the platform purchaseable at a very deep discount. On top of that, he made certain that we got the 5% Mattress Underground discount.

His family has run this business since 1896... holy moly! HIs building was basically a factory with a small rudimentary showroom in an old portion of Fort Worth. At this point, basically industrial area. The other two things that really stood out to me were that he offered to take myself and my 8 year old daughter on a quick tour of his manufacturing facility. It was really neat to see that area and I know my daughter really enjoyed it. Also, by 11 year old boy got a little wild while in his showroom. He has Down Syndrome and could not resist jumping on all of those beds! I was embarrassed but Peter was very cool about it. Finally, it looks like the bed will be built and ready to pick up Monday afternoon...in 2 days. WOW!

Realizing that we have not laid on our actual bed yet, every other aspect of the process with Peter and his business has been top notch. I expect that we will also love the quality of our purchase as well, but it is sure nice to know that Peter is there to assist if that does not go exactly as I truly expect it to. I will provide a review after we have slept on it a couple weeks, but I really want to thank everyone, especially Phoenix, for the kind assistance they provided in this process.

Thanks again,

Craig
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08 Feb 2014 14:01 #48 by Phoenix
Hi slotshot,

Thanks for taking the time to share the details of your experience with Peter and The Mattress Factory ... I appreciate it.

It's great to see you took your time to work on your configuration and I'm looking forward to any updates you have a chance to share when you've had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.

Most importantly ... congratulations on your new mattress ... I think you made a great choice :)

Phoenix

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14 Feb 2014 14:17 #49 by rjar
I decided to move my questions concerns about latex mattresses in the DFW area to this topic.

After some deliberation and dealing with a tempurpedic mattress, trying some latex mattresses at other places, I settled on a mattress from the Mattress Factory; I got a queen barrington latex flippable mattress with ILD 24 talalay on both sides and a ILD 28 dunlop core.

Full disclosure--I probably didn't spend as much time lying on the mattresses as I would've liked to because the website had said they closed at 5:30, but really he told me they close at 5, so I only got about 10 - 15 min to test two beds out.

The second time I went over there I had settled on the medium mattress after a few minutes but again, got there before someone was leaving so I felt a little rushed into finalizing a purchase. Nevertheless, I went ahead and purchased it.

I have the mattress at my house and I'm using it---but now that I've had a little more time with it, I'm noticing that maybe I have more weight in my hips than I thought and I'm feeling lower back pressure when I wake up in the morning, and I just get the general sensation that my hip area is lower than the rest of my body.

I'm a side sleeper and I turn a lot at night.

What is the best way to tell whether it's too hard or too soft for me? I'm trying to figure out if I should try a firmer ILD or just give up with the full latex mattress and just settle on a regular spring with latex topper. And if I get a firmer ILD---how do I know if it's too firm or not firm enough?

I was just under the impression that there wasn't a lot of leeway/customizability with the latex mattress firmness from the Mattress Factory.

I'm a little frustrated because I thought he would be a little more supportive and informative about helping me make my decisions, but instead I felt rushed and brushed aside and now I have some back pain.

I hope I'm asking the right questions and making sense!

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14 Feb 2014 17:39 - 14 Feb 2014 17:43 #50 by Phoenix
Hi rjar,

It's unfortunate that you weren't able to spend more time testing the mattresses because spending 15 or 20 minutes on a mattress and carefully evaluating it for PPP (fully relaxed and using the testing guideines) can certainly make a difference but I would talk to Peter about the options you have for changing the ILD of the layers ... possibly to a firmer support layer (28 ILD would be on the soft side for a support layer for many people).

If you sleep with a partner then I would also make sure that you test the mattress together because a mattress can feel and respond differently when two people sleep on it than it does with one.

Both latex and an innerspring can be a suitable and durable support layer and the choice between them would be more of a preference issue than anything else.

The "sensation" on a mattress is more subjective and it's often the case that people "feel like" they are sinking in more or less than they are used to when they are sleeping on a mattress that uses a material that they aren't used to sleeping on but the actual "symptoms" you experience are the guidelines I would use to decide on any changes in a mattress that may be necessary (see post #6 here )

Post #2 here has more about some of the more common "symptoms" on a mattress and some of the possible reasons that can cause them that may be helpful in combination with your discussions with Peter.

You are certainly asking the right questions but there are so many variables and preferences involved in a mattress choice that in the end you each of us is the only one that can "feel" what we feel on a mattress and everything else is just "best effort" guidance.

Phoenix

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