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Memory Foam Mattress Help

11 Jan 2019 12:34 - 11 Jan 2019 12:36 #141 by 560andrising
I think it will be a better choice as well, durability-wise. I'm a little concerned about comfort. Those layers are so dense and firm that I wonder if they'll ever break in and feel comforting. I'm certain they'll support us and not lead to any pain unless it is pain from the surface being too hard. I don't think the surface is too hard, so it shouldn't be a problem. I just honestly wonder if it's worth a lower mattress lifespan to have immediate comfort. That's so wasteful, but there's something to be said for feeling comfortable immediately, haha. This entire process is so nutty. I just want it to be over! Hahaha!
Last edit: 11 Jan 2019 12:36 by 560andrising. Reason: I'm officially using Grammarly to minimize typos

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11 Jan 2019 12:40 #142 by Ari
Replied by Ari on topic Memory Foam Mattress Help
I went through a lot of misery trying to find a comfortable mattress, with a bad back it was crucial I didn’t have anything too soft or too hard. These beds are very temperature sensitive, will feel softer if your room is hot and firmer when the room is cool.

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12 Jan 2019 00:35 - 12 Jan 2019 00:36 #143 by 560andrising
After talking with the wife, we are feeling stupid enough to try the Cloud Supreme, due to cost savings ($600) and a willingness to sort of jump in and test the waters. If we get four comfy years out of the mattress and have to replace it, we feel we'd then know what the pros and cons are. Until we try one out, we are clueless, honestly. I keep reminding myself about the firmer Rhapsody Luxe and that we can add a topper if necessary, but that adds cost. We also have to get a new foundation/bed frame, sheets, pillows, etc. All of this is making the $600 savings of the Cloud Supreme over the Rhapsody Luxe enticing. It's a tough decision. I darn near wanna grab this Sleep Science Area from Costco, knowing I can return it if it fails. But I am aware that the specs seem to be listed incorrectly, as the poly foam base layer would have to be less than 1.0-lb if the comfort layer specs were accurate.

I'm at the point where a decision just has to be made and I don't want to spend $1900 on the Rhapsody Luxe only to eventually need a topper. That also would lead to a ton of additional research, which I literally don't have time for. I'm in school and working full-time.

A crystal ball would be perfect right about now...
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12 Jan 2019 05:40 - 12 Jan 2019 05:42 #144 by Ari
Replied by Ari on topic Memory Foam Mattress Help
I would pick your favorite 3 and just go keep laying on them in different stores, don’t always go to the same store and lay in the same bed... change it up.
I am sure it won’t take long to pick a favorite
Last edit: 12 Jan 2019 05:42 by Ari.

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12 Jan 2019 18:44 #145 by 560andrising
Thank you for your feedback Ari. Your thoughts have been really helpful. I went back tonight and did another A-B comparison of the Rhapsody Luxe and the Cloud Supreme. I could go either way but am worried about the Rhapsody Luxe taking a while to break in and not being able to sleep well until it does. My wife is lighter than me and I worry about her really struggling with it, especially as she is primarily a side sleeper. I was confident that the Rhapsody was the smarter play, as a topper could be added. After reading up on toppers, I now realize that they might not be helpful on top of a very dense top layer such as the Rhapsody's. Body that not coming into direct contact with the 7.1-lb top layer would prevent it from softening and contouring, so you'd have a soft top layer in the topper, which you'd melt through, and yet the tempur-hd layer wouldn't warm up enough to soften and you'd essentially be laying on a topper and a brick.

I'm super torn and honestly think I may grab the Cloud Supreme and if it breaks down prematurely, just start the search all over again at that time, hopefully years down the road. I actually really, really like the new Luxe Adapt Firm mattress, but am not ready to plunk down $4,000 + tax. If it became a floor model in 3-5 years, assuming the Cloud Supreme was finished at that time, I'd grab it in a heartbeat. And I am aware that Tempur-Pedic's new base layer tends to be 1.6 to 1.8 lb, but what are you gonna do, you know? I've tied and tried to find a non-Tempur-Pedic mattress with a decent return policy that fits all of the density requirements of a 225 pound guy, but it isn't out there any longer. Foamorder is too low density, Christeli is now way low, as is Novosbed.

I'm leaning toward the Cloud Supreme, given the new info on how a topper might affect the performance of the Rhapsody Luxe. It pains me to admit that and I worry about how long the Cloud Supreme will last, but I'm out of time and don't want to spend more on a Rhapsody and have it take ages to soften, or never soften to our liking.

Sigh... LOL!

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21 Jan 2019 03:19 - 21 Jan 2019 14:22 #146 by Garvey88
Replied by Garvey88 on topic Memory Foam Mattress Help
My memory foam mattress came from here and I'm really pleased with it. :)
Last edit: 21 Jan 2019 14:22 by Sensei. Reason: promotional link removed

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21 Jan 2019 14:33 #147 by Sensei
Replied by Sensei on topic Memory Foam Mattress Help
Hi Garvery88,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :).

I have removed the promotional link from your post, please feel free to post any details your mattress purchase in another post, thank you. Which product and why you chose this, etc etc.

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21 Jan 2019 19:11 #148 by savantstrike
To play devil's advocate here, a couple thoughts for you to consider. I think it's possible you fell into the build quality trap - where you become so fixated on top tier components you may have forgotten the flip side of the coin.

1. Have you looked into the cost of two (or three) cheaper mattresses over the period of ten years? If you got an average of 3.3 years out of each mattress, you'll be under the cost of one Tempur pedic (unless it's a floor model). This let's you get your feet in the water and put more money towards the linens and the bed frame.

2. If you're willing to buy a starter bed frame (cheap no frills platform bed) or you can find something used locally, you can put that money into the mattress (or under it for a rainy day). Used stuff has deep discounts when people move - I scored a king sized ~5K 4 poster bed frame made of solid cherry for 300 bucks and another 50 bucks worth of parts.

3. If an extra 600 bucks stings right now, will you truly be happy in a few years if you have to buy a whole new mattress. At 225 lbs you probably won't get ten (my Tempur was a firmer model and my 245 pound frame was no longer supported after six years. I'd fall asleep and blow through the comfort layer in 3 hours and wake up in agony sunk into the support layer (which with old school HD foam was still kicking). I always slept with a wool topper too, so the break in period was longer than if I'd slept closer to the sleeping surface.

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22 Jan 2019 05:44 #149 by sparky
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Hi savantstrike - you bring up something I've been thinking - that if I "settled" for something similar but cheaper than tempurpedic at what point would it be worth it to do that and just replace more often.

Briefly - we've had and loved a tempurpedic deluxe 10" (bought in 2004) that has just recently started to hurt me because of sinking in too far. We flipped it over and put a 3" soft talalay topper on it (on the very hard polyfoam bottom layer) and hoped to get a few more years out of it. I'm almost ok with it but not loving that feeling.

So we started looking at tempurpedics again and of course they're so very expensive and the quality of the layers appears to have gone down. So while I could justify paying $3500 for it if it would last us another 15 years I'm not at all sure with the new models we'd get that much time out of it.

I tried to look at other memory foam options online but haven't gotten very far with that research. The idea of trying one and not liking it and having to deal with shipping it back is very daunting. I guess if the latex topper/tempur we're on now doesn't ultimately work out I'll look more at cheaper memory foam beds that have decent return policies.

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22 Jan 2019 10:24 #150 by savantstrike
Sparky, you're in the same boat I was in a month ago when I finally decided to replace my Tempur. I did the math (below) that led me to conclude the bed in a box is always better provided it feels good.

I reduced everything to simple math.
1. 3500 for a Tempur that lasts 8 years is 437/year.
2. 1200 for a "higher end" bed in a box that lasts 2.5 years is the same 437/year
3. The Tempur would have to last longer than my last one (not likely, I replaced it "early" because it was too soft for me), or the bed in a box would have to last less than 2.5 years (also not likely) before the Tempur could compete on price.
4. A 2500 latex mattress that lasts 15 years (not too much of a stretch) is 166/year.

I bought my latex mattress without ever lying on one and the gamble paid off.

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