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09 Sep 2019 10:08 #821 by Astray
These frames are much too tall for a box spring to go on top of the frame. The top of the mattress would likely be 3+ feet tall with a box spring.

What I'm gathering is that you believe the holes would be too large without some sort of extra support on top of the frame though? I'm going to cutting the fabric off the top of box spring to put over the frame to add additional support (it should be very tight), but I don't want to add anything really thick to the platform if it can be helped.

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14 Sep 2019 06:19 - 14 Sep 2019 06:20 #822 by Sensei
Hey Astray,

Welcome to the mattress forum :).

Thanks for the post. This is always an interesting topic, and for many years the "traditional mattress players" played a lot of games with fear...warranty is void, lack of support will be dangerous, blah blah blah. Personally, the foundation you choose is totally up to you, AND any latex mattress can go over these frames, from Zinus and others......most importantly one should know the risks, how the technology will work.

I purchased a Zinus Van 16 Inch Metal Platform Bed Frame with Steel Slat Support / Mattress Foundation, Queen this past year for a Teenagers Queen bed. It has worked perfectly fine. It was only $79.00 and storage has been much better for her. The foundation just does not feel like it is going to last a long time, but was perfect for my use. Each foundation will also make the mattress feel different, so for some people this can affect their PPP mix.

There is more information about the different types of support systems (bedframes and foundations or platform beds) that are generally suitable for different types of mattresses and some examples of each of them in post 1 best foundations for latex mattress. I would also keep in mind that these are general guidelines and some manufacturers have requirements that may be different so I would always confirm with the retailer or manufacturer of your mattress that any support system you are planning to use under the specific mattress you purchase meets their warranty requirements and guidelines.

Thanks,
Sensei

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Last edit: 14 Sep 2019 06:20 by Sensei.

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15 Sep 2019 21:40 - 15 Sep 2019 21:41 #823 by Astray
So I actually changed my mind about the Zinus because it wasn't tall enough. I ended up doing a whole bunch of things that most people probably wouldn't do, which I'll go into, but basically I ended up with this instead. I did this solely because I wanted a taller bed, but I slightly regret the decision as the Zinus Elite was of a much higher quality than the Ziyoo, but it gets the job done. I did more in-depth review of it on Amazon that will be posted eventually.

Anyways, after getting the Ziyoo, I actually found a brand new box spring from a local seller for $35 and I proceeded to tear it apart to keep the materials that covered the top of the box. It consisted of a very sturdy, almost cardboard like sheet that had reinforcing string in it, similar to heavy duty packaging tape and the cloth cover. Putting these on top of the frame with one of those sticky mats to hold it all in place on the frame basically just made my frame into a very thin foundation/box spring that provides more than enough support and pressure dispersion for any mattress I might put on there.

Destruction of the box spring and removal of all the staples and nails took up well over 6 hours though so I don't recommend it though haha. Luckily, the task provided me with enough to time to binge watch a show a Netflix I had been putting off too.
Last edit: 15 Sep 2019 21:41 by Astray.

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19 Sep 2019 15:53 #824 by Sensei
Hey astray,

Thanks for the update. I totally get the need for extra height. Wow, the "project" of taking apart the old box spring...I totally get what you did....but more importantly.. which show on Netflix did you binge-watch? I'm kidding, we wouldn't want the forum to veer into Neflix reviews/opinions.

I do agree you will have plenty of support and balance with your foundation, and a bit more pride in the accomplishment in my opinion.

Thanks again,
Sensei

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17 Nov 2019 21:47 #825 by Ho
Replied by Ho on topic Adjustable Base Recommendations
For a 10” all latex mattress in a King size, is there any real difference between using a single piece wood slat foundation vs two XL twins? My husband and I are both heavy and it’s a heavy mattress. But we really hate the high center ridge we’re experiencing with our current set up. I read the post explaining how the materials, etc play a part and this situation can be somewhat inevitable. But if the single piece king slat foundation has less wood down the center, seems like it might help that problem. On the other hand, since our original Euro slats broke under us, I want to make sure the single piece king is strong enough. I think I also saw a king slat foundation in one piece, but instead of a centered head to toe rail there were two off centered rails. That seems stronger in theory but then we’d also be sleeping directly on top of these rails, which may be bad for someone like me with many spine issues and pressure points. Anyway, if you had some advice on the difference between a king size wood slat foundation in one piece, vs two twins, I would like to hear it. Thanks very much,

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21 Nov 2019 19:04 #826 by arian487
So I bought a bed natural latex 9" mattress about 5 months ago and I made a mistake of not purchasing a foundation to go along with it. I bought only a bed frame and that has slats that are 3.25" apart. I've noticed that my bed has some sag to it now:

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I'm hoping this is not actual sag in the latex and is just sag from the weaker/wider apart slats. I'm assuming I should buy a foundation ASAP?

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22 Nov 2019 05:06 #827 by CBHWoodFurniture
Hi arian487,
how wide and thick are your slats?
An easy thing to check is if they have sagged as well.

Otherwise I have also had a few customers here in Canada that before coming to us had supposedly natural or organic latex mattresses which started to sag within 6-12 months. As for the reason why that was, I can only speculate, but in any case I was not surprised...

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22 Nov 2019 09:09 #828 by arian487
The slats are 2 7/8" wide and just under a half inch thick.

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23 Nov 2019 12:26 #829 by CBHWoodFurniture
Thanks,
the thickness is probably good. Obviously different kinds of wood provide different levels of strength but 1/2 would likely be good.
The coverage area of the slats is not good though. You should have at least 2/3 of the bed covered if you use a latex mattress. That means if you bed is 80in long then you want at least 55inches covered. At your current slat width that means you need at least 19 slats. To be safe, you should have a few more.
The other issue that you may or may not get is that the slats will bent over time. In that case that will cause encourage sagging of the mattress over time. Aspen wood would be good to use for the slats as it is not very susceptible to bending.

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08 Dec 2019 10:45 - 09 Dec 2019 08:32 #830 by kamrah
Hi there!

First off, I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this great forum. Lots of very helpful information!

I would like to ask a specific question that you guys, with all your experience, might be able to answer!

In order to better understand how much a flexible slatted foundation can add to a sleeping system, I would like to know:

For someone who weighs a very light 125lbs, using a 6inch (medium/firm) all latex mattress, would a flexible slatted foundation provide any additional flex? I know this is very specific... but all I read is that "it depends on weight and thickness" and would like to have a better idea what that means!

Even though the mattress on a hard surface is already quite perfect, the person concerned is healthy & athletic and was looking for a hard latex mattress to begin with, I'd like to explore if a flexible foundation can add any benefits (taking into consideration the persons lightweight & the thickness of mattress).

Cheers
Last edit: 09 Dec 2019 08:32 by kamrah.

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